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post Sep 25 2010, 10:05 AM
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I wouldn't say awesome quite yet. I'd say we'd have a functioning midfield as so far ambrosini, gattuso and seedorf have been shocking.
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post Sep 25 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2010, 05:32 PM) *
How can we know if Robinho's in form? He has barely played. Allegri keeps talking about his fitness, but that can only be gained through playing matches. He doesn't want to change the formation? Fine! Then play Robinho, not Boateng there! If he doesn't think Robinho is ready then switch to 4-3-1-2 FFS! The 4-3-3 without the neccessary players is going to sink us!

Allegri needs to get his head out of his @ss right now or our season will be over before it started! I defended him up to the moment he started pulling this cr@p on us. What was the point of getting rid of Leo if we're still swimming in the same pile of cr@p?!

EDIT. R7 this is not directed at you. I'm just venting at the current situation we find ourselves in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Well Robinho has not had any preseason training with City prior to his move here. While our players have had a good month's work before the start of the season. By saying that, Robinho can still play, just not for more than a half.


I'm telling you, after Ancelotti you will be venting a lot; the standard has been raised (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 25 2010, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (agenth @ Sep 24 2010, 02:59 PM) *

That midfield belongs in an effing museum. seriously.

QUOTE (shevchenko_007 @ Sep 25 2010, 05:34 AM) *
I keep hearing that Robinho can't play because he is out of form... If somebody can please tell me how gattuso and seedorf are in form then i would love to know? It is completely unfair that robinho is getting no game time when he is the direct replacement for pato.
I don't mind the 4-3-3 as this is the only way ronnie can play and i dont want to see him on the bench.

A good line up for me would be:
-------------------Abbiati------------------

Zambrotta----Nesta----Silva----Antonini

-----Flamini------Pirlo------Boateng------

Robinho-----------Zlatan----------Ronnie

I agree we need a change, but with the right players then the 4-3-3 can still work, especially with a hard working midfield that can still pass a ball. I would like to see boateng playing on ronnie's side, i think they would link up well together and ronnie will appreciate his energy and use of space, unlike slowdorf (who i think is killing ronnie's spirit)

Agreed 1899%.

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post Sep 25 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 25 2010, 11:25 AM) *
Well Robinho has not had any preseason training with City prior to his move here. While our players have had a good month's work before the start of the season. By saying that, Robinho can still play, just not for more than a half.


I'm telling you, after Ancelotti you will be venting a lot; the standard has been raised (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh Carlo made me vent twice as much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With the stupid xmas tree

Rino--Pirlo--Ambro
Seedorf--Kaka
Pippo


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post Sep 25 2010, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2010, 02:19 PM) *
Oh Carlo made me vent twice as much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With the stupid xmas tree

Rino--Pirlo--Ambro
Seedorf--Kaka
Pippo


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)


Wasn't that stupid xmas tree that won you the 2007 champions league ? Oh but who cares, we are playing the 4-3-3 with immense success now, we will win twice as much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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post Sep 25 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 25 2010, 12:34 PM) *
Wasn't that stupid xmas tree that won you the 2007 champions league ? Oh but who cares, we are playing the 4-3-3 with immense success now, we will win twice as much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

It worked well in a total of 3 games in the CL ( Man U home and Away, Bayern Away) It was a disaster in the league and we could barely get past Celtic in the last 16. I wouldn't call that a successful system...

Imo our best formation was the 4-3-1-2 under Carlo, that was a system that worked for us. Now we really don't have the players to play it anymore, 4-3-3 imo is our best option, but when it's impossible to play it because we have injured players I don't want to see it used.
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post Sep 25 2010, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2010, 01:52 PM) *
It worked well in a total of 3 games in the CL ( Man U home and Away, Bayern Away) It was a disaster in the league and we could barely get past Celtic in the last 16. I wouldn't call that a successful system...

Imo our best formation was the 4-3-1-2 under Carlo, that was a system that worked for us. Now we really don't have the players to play it anymore, 4-3-3 imo is our best option, but when it's impossible to play it because we have injured players I don't want to see it used.

why don't we have the players for 4-3-1-2 anymore?
the only exception is, that Ronnie only loves 4-3-3
which the other 10 players obviously don't like.
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post Sep 25 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (agenth @ Sep 25 2010, 12:55 PM) *
why don't we have the players for 4-3-1-2 anymore?
the only exception is, that Ronnie only loves 4-3-3
which the other 10 players obviously don't like.

I don't think it's Ronnie's fault that the coach is too afraid to move him there. Not because Ronnie doesn't like it, imo he can play even better in the center since these days his passing is the most effective part of his play. But Leo and now Allegri are afraid of what would happen should they move him, if it's a failure Silvio will instantly start breathing down his neck because he is adamant about Dinho being a forward (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

If the coach is not willing to try and invest time in playing Ronnie in the hole behind the strikers then, no, we don't have the players for it.

The 4-3-3 is obviosuly not working but for some reason Alleri is going to keep insisting on it, Dinho is already being wasted where he is imo, usually he's shut out for most of the game because of the heavy marking he's under
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post Sep 25 2010, 02:07 PM
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I think we should give last chance for 4-3-3 formation before thinking about something else. We should play Ronnie, Robbie (in Pato's position) and Ibra, from the start and see what happens, and if it doesn't work out then have nothing to do, but giving it up.
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post Sep 25 2010, 02:24 PM
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Agree with Coldest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Even though I would stir things up this match and go with something different, I think the coach will stick with the 4-3-3 for a match or two at least, that is saying if the results don't come.
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:03 PM
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Date: 25 September 2010, Sunday

When does Milan play ??? Tomorrow or today ?

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post Sep 25 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 25 2010, 04:03 PM) *
Date: 25 September 2010, Sunday

When does Milan play ??? Tomorrow or today ?

Today, I believe it starts in less than 2 hours.
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 25 2010, 03:03 PM) *
Date: 25 September 2010, Sunday

When does Milan play ??? Tomorrow or today ?


It's today. But the pirate is still learning english.

http://www.acmilan.com/LM_Match.aspx?idIncontro=3275 for more info

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post Sep 25 2010, 03:18 PM
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it looks like we will start with binho on the wing and rino and KBP alongside pirlo, so not so bad, but i prefer flamini over gatuso but the system is the same, one DM (rino) and one box2box(KBP) and pirlo in the regista position , it would be better if flamini would play but the system is ok , i think the better so far.
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Sep 25 2010, 04:18 PM) *
it looks like we will start with binho on the wing and rino and KBP alongside pirlo, so not so bad, but i prefer flamini over gatuso but the system is the same, one DM (rino) and one box2box(KBP) and pirlo in the regista position , it would be better if flamini would play but the system is ok , i think the better so far.

I thought Seedorf might play instead of Pirlo? Though it isn't sure. Anyway, but you are right. The midfield is in balance. A DM (Gattuso - Flamini probably isn't match fit), a playmaker (Seedorf or Pirlo), and Kevin-Prince Boateng. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Unlike previous matches our midfield and attack seems okay. Ronaldinho, Ibrahimovic and Robinho hopefully all can start.

edit: ah, it now is indeed Pirlo instead of Seedorf

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