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post Jun 9 2009, 02:07 PM
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More than 15 hours have passed and not a single word from Galliani or Berlu on the issue, as if they've sold a tool and no further explanation is needed. what a disgrace.
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post Jun 9 2009, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 9 2009, 04:50 AM) *
Or worse, we spend it on the donkey that is Adebayor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Kaka's been a great servant. A true gent on and off the pitch, I sincerely wish him all of the best at Madrid. I can see why he's moved, it's good for him to get the worldwide audience that he so deserves on a weekly basis. I'm almost certain he will never return so it's sad to think that we will never see him playing in a red and black shirt again.

The memories of 2007 will never go, how he ripped open a Manchester United team both home and away, that looked and has proved how much of a force it is in world football.

He will be adored at Madrid, and will be adored at Milan. It was just time to move on and for a team that's not showing much potential, at least before he reaches his early 30's, who can blame him?


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Good luck Ricky and thankyou for everything.
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:01 PM
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I don’t understand how it is so easy to point fingers and assume that the management want to sell the clubs most prolific players; just to reap off the profits … Selling Shevchenko and Kaka’ at their prime, not investing in top quality players, owner not interested in the future of the club etc … Justified by assumptions that the management has no clear vision and are a bunch of baboons sitting around a table, cutting and dissecting the club; minimizing its capacity to challenge for anything noteworthy.


Notable Examples to the effects of the current situation on a large scale:


Then again, Lehmann Brothers (LHB) after 158 years, Est. 1850, of being the cornerstone and most iconic statues of Wall St. collapsed at the wake of the mortgage crisis. The effect of this collapse sent shockwaves throughout the world, as LHB was THE investment bank of its time. It filed for Chapter 11 and opted for liquidation (cashing in) of all of its assets after failing to find a potential buyer.

General Motors Corp. (GM) filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on June 1 2009. A move which puts a giant in the US job market, (GM employs 10% of the US population) on its knees. With much needed injection of cash; it sold its lucrative Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. of China. Furthermore, Company has revealed that it has potential buyers lined up for both its Saturn and Saab brands and is currently studying the possibility of closing down its Pontiac brand.

American International Group (AIG), now had this company filed for Chapter 11, Europe would have been literally crushed, as the CEO of Deutsche Bank put it, post the US Federal Reserve’s intervention in injecting cash of $40bn into the AIG. As this company, in simple terms, insures the top banks in Europe namely Barclays, Deutsche and Societe Generale.

Merrill Lynch (MER) sold itself off to Bank of America (BAC) in order to bring in $50bn (it was valued at $100bn in early 2007) and save itself from filling for Chapter 11.

Fannie May and Freddie Mac, once the two pillars, which lead the US property market, are in serious trouble and have defaulted on their repayments. They recorded losses far greater than $11bn each in the last annual report that I have seen.


If these giants come to their knees, due to a credit crunch, while most entities all over the US, Europe, and Asia are suffering the reproductions of a plague (recession), why wont a football club be affected? Especially a football club in Italy, a country that has received double blows, with a recession in 2007 then a credit (cash) crisis in 2008?

Why can’t Milan really be suffering the consequence?

Why does it have to be the management that wants the club to lower its stature? Why can’t it be that these men are benefiting the club’s financial future, which might be at stake?

Why is it that Milan is compared to top European clubs, instead of being compared to clubs in Serie A, as they are suffering the same financial difficulties suffered by Roma and Juve?

inter? Massimo Moratti, enjoys an abundance of liquidity in a time where oil prices skyrocketed to the $145 per barrel. This is the only justification for his club’s extravagant spend over recent years based on Saras’s financials.
(“The Saras S.p.A. ordinary shareholders’ meeting, held today and chaired
by Gian Marco Moratti has approved Parent Company Financial Statements as of 31 December 2008 ended with a net profit of EUR 61.8 million.” From Saras annual report.” – From Saras annual report.)
While clubs like Juve, Milan, Roma have been suffering the recession coupled by the affect of the credit (cash) crisis.

It is not viable to compare Barca, Madrid, United, Chelsea and the likes … as their respective football governing bodies promote their leagues and clubs financially both directly and indirectly. They have better sporting tax laws and are more lenient in debt structure … that amongst others, which I am not, exposed to. This can be felt throughout the world, as English and Spanish football is by far the most followed leagues mainly due to the promotion of their football by their respective leagues; both directly and indirectly. Sure they have all been affected by the current financial turmoil, but are less affected than their counter parts in Italy. Are they not affected? Of course they are, but did they go through Calciopoli in 2006? Did they go through a recession in 2007? And are their respective football governing bodies as stringent as FIGC?


In closing … these are strange times that we are in at the moment. You don’t have to be finance major to rectify reasons behind the situation at our beloved club, just the fact that the league as a whole has been suffering illiquidity ever since the turn of the millennium is enough to point you in the right direction. Hence, I strongly believe it is true what Galliani has been saying about the clubs internal difficulties on a microeconomic level, which has been further affected by the macroeconomic level (Serie A and Italy as a whole).
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Panama Devil @ Jun 9 2009, 06:08 AM) *
QUEEEEESTION:

Kaká is said to have mentioned that the deal was sealed long ago. In that case and if AC Milan already knew this and Ancelotti was leaving ........ WHY DID WE LET GOURCUFF GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are the plans if Gourcuff is still young and cheaper than Kaká. Why did we unload this player if the board knew Kaká was leaving. Is Silvio just selling his assets in order to finally sell the team??????????????


We let both Ricky and Yoann back because silvio thinks R80 is good enough to lead our attack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm waiting for the day when R80 screws us over (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:03 PM
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P.S. Don't go buying a Pato shirt as he will be next.
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jun 9 2009, 03:03 PM) *
P.S. Don't go buying a Pato shirt as he will be next.

So true...

@R7, I enjoy reading your economics based post. I find your knowldge on the subject enlightening. But please spare me. Milan are the only club constantly complaining about the money issues, no other club. And guess what, our owner is the Prime Minister of the f'ing country!!!! That's how ridiculous we've become.

Milan pushed Ricky out because they needed the cash flow, because Silvio does not want to invest anymore, because this has brought Milan to what it is today. Milan as a whole has been declining at a rapid rate, we are not growing as a club. End of a cycle?? We shouldn't have let the cycle go this far to begin with, and instead of ending the cycle with our best and youngest players intact, we're losing those and keeping the older less effective players to start the 'new' cycle. I mean this is ridiculous.

This is as far as I go with my so called 'bashing'. I'm going to hold judgment for when the transfer window closes. I think it's only fair and you probably agree with this. But what I can see happening is us buying a couple of mediocre players for the defence and over paying a ridiculous ammount for the headless chicken that is Adebayour, and the management will say we're covered for next season.

I mean who are they trying to feed this cr@p to? They think the fans are stupid and will belive all they say, and try to feed us BS that the big massive gaping hole that we'll be left with next season can be filled with 2 mediocre signings.

We've just lost our captain, star player and coach. Milan got dismantled in less then a month and they're going to try and BS us into going along with their cr@p.

I'm just afraid of what we'll see next season, because you thought these last two seasons were bad, its only just the beginning. The management are leading us to a dead end road.

Like I said, Silvio might have built Milan into the footballing super power that it is today, but he will be the one to tear the whole thing down. Why wouldn't he? He's already gotten all that he's needed out of Milan, why keep spending on it??
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post Jun 9 2009, 04:15 PM
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i think the management know what they're doing .... btw who is dzeko ???? i think they will buy him no ??? ... and we can't judge from now ... we have to wait until next season.... and see what milan do in serie A and italian cup and Champions League ... juve bought diego .... inter have ibra ... and milan have ronaldinho and pato .... !!!!! we will see until next season ... we can't know what will happen ... maybe they're right maybe they're wrong ... just wait and watch .....
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post Jun 9 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (A.X @ Jun 9 2009, 05:15 PM) *
i think the management know what they're doing .... btw who is dzeko ???? i think they will buy him no ??? ... and we can't judge from now ... we have to wait until next season.... and see what milan do in serie A and italian cup and Champions League ... juve bought diego .... inter have ibra ... and milan have ronaldinho and pato .... !!!!! we will see until next season ... we can't know what will happen ... maybe they're right maybe they're wrong ... just wait and watch .....


ronaldinho !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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post Jun 9 2009, 04:35 PM
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Costacurta: Kaka did it for Milan

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun9j.html

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post Jun 9 2009, 04:37 PM
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I was already survive something like this when Sheva laves, but this is too much. It is obivus that Milan is become expensive toy for Berlusconi...
Good bye Ricky and thank you for everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 9 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 9 2009, 07:01 PM) *
I don’t understand how it is so easy to point fingers and assume that the management want to sell the clubs most prolific players; just to reap off the profits … Selling Shevchenko and Kaka’ at their prime, not investing in top quality players, owner not interested in the future of the club etc … Justified by assumptions that the management has no clear vision and are a bunch of baboons sitting around a table, cutting and dissecting the club; minimizing its capacity to challenge for anything noteworthy.


Notable Examples to the effects of the current situation on a large scale:


Then again, Lehmann Brothers (LHB) after 158 years, Est. 1850, of being the cornerstone and most iconic statues of Wall St. collapsed at the wake of the mortgage crisis. The effect of this collapse sent shockwaves throughout the world, as LHB was THE investment bank of its time. It filed for Chapter 11 and opted for liquidation (cashing in) of all of its assets after failing to find a potential buyer.

General Motors Corp. (GM) filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on June 1 2009. A move which puts a giant in the US job market, (GM employs 10% of the US population) on its knees. With much needed injection of cash; it sold its lucrative Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. of China. Furthermore, Company has revealed that it has potential buyers lined up for both its Saturn and Saab brands and is currently studying the possibility of closing down its Pontiac brand.

American International Group (AIG), now had this company filed for Chapter 11, Europe would have been literally crushed, as the CEO of Deutsche Bank put it, post the US Federal Reserve’s intervention in injecting cash of $40bn into the AIG. As this company, in simple terms, insures the top banks in Europe namely Barclays, Deutsche and Societe Generale.

Merrill Lynch (MER) sold itself off to Bank of America (BAC) in order to bring in $50bn (it was valued at $100bn in early 2007) and save itself from filling for Chapter 11.

Fannie May and Freddie Mac, once the two pillars, which lead the US property market, are in serious trouble and have defaulted on their repayments. They recorded losses far greater than $11bn each in the last annual report that I have seen.


If these giants come to their knees, due to a credit crunch, while most entities all over the US, Europe, and Asia are suffering the reproductions of a plague (recession), why wont a football club be affected? Especially a football club in Italy, a country that has received double blows, with a recession in 2007 then a credit (cash) crisis in 2008?

Why can’t Milan really be suffering the consequence?

Why does it have to be the management that wants the club to lower its stature? Why can’t it be that these men are benefiting the club’s financial future, which might be at stake?

Why is it that Milan is compared to top European clubs, instead of being compared to clubs in Serie A, as they are suffering the same financial difficulties suffered by Roma and Juve?

inter? Massimo Moratti, enjoys an abundance of liquidity in a time where oil prices skyrocketed to the $145 per barrel. This is the only justification for his club’s extravagant spend over recent years based on Saras’s financials.
(“The Saras S.p.A. ordinary shareholders’ meeting, held today and chaired
by Gian Marco Moratti has approved Parent Company Financial Statements as of 31 December 2008 ended with a net profit of EUR 61.8 million.” From Saras annual report.” – From Saras annual report.)
While clubs like Juve, Milan, Roma have been suffering the recession coupled by the affect of the credit (cash) crisis.

It is not viable to compare Barca, Madrid, United, Chelsea and the likes … as their respective football governing bodies promote their leagues and clubs financially both directly and indirectly. They have better sporting tax laws and are more lenient in debt structure … that amongst others, which I am not, exposed to. This can be felt throughout the world, as English and Spanish football is by far the most followed leagues mainly due to the promotion of their football by their respective leagues; both directly and indirectly. Sure they have all been affected by the current financial turmoil, but are less affected than their counter parts in Italy. Are they not affected? Of course they are, but did they go through Calciopoli in 2006? Did they go through a recession in 2007? And are their respective football governing bodies as stringent as FIGC?


In closing … these are strange times that we are in at the moment. You don’t have to be finance major to rectify reasons behind the situation at our beloved club, just the fact that the league as a whole has been suffering illiquidity ever since the turn of the millennium is enough to point you in the right direction. Hence, I strongly believe it is true what Galliani has been saying about the clubs internal difficulties on a microeconomic level, which has been further affected by the macroeconomic level (Serie A and Italy as a whole).


Ronaldinho avatar, lack of spending potential BS, refusal to compare to Man U, Barca and Real as soon as things start to fall apart. Is it truly you Mr. Berlusconi?

Just sell the club to a sheikh Silvio, and go down in history as a legend and not as public enemy. And stop playing around with barely legal chicks. Seriously now.
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post Jun 9 2009, 09:49 PM
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Leonardo: 'We'll miss Kaka'
Tuesday 9 June, 2009
New Coach Leonardo admits Milan “will really miss Kaka” as a person even more than as a football player.

The Ballon d’Or winner completed his £60m switch to Real Madrid last night by penning a six-year contract.

“We will miss Ricardo,” Leonardo told Sky Italia. “Naturally I will miss him a great deal, as will all of us, both as a person and a player.

“He has been an extraordinary player for us. All of us care for him, he is a symbol. This does not mean that contacts will cease, as they will remain very much alive.”

Milan supporters are furious at the departure of their top star, especially after Kaka admitted he wanted to remain at San Siro, but left to help the club during the economic crisis.

“They forced him to leave,” slammed one fan on an internet forum.

“They complain about the financial situation, but they spend 4m Euros per year for Dida’s contract, not to mention to pointless signings of Ronaldinho and Andriy Shevchenko.”

Many have announced plans to cancel their season tickets and subscription to Milan Channel in protest.

There are fears that Alexandre Pato will follow after he said he would speak to Carlo Ancelotti at Chelsea before making a decision.

“Pato is not just off the market, he is completely off the market,” assured Vice-President Adriano Galliani.


As for the last line, I'm wondering how many years will pass till it becomes something like "we can't afford to lose multimillion offers for Pato every season anymore, blah blah blah"...
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IMO It's good some supporters are planning to boycott the tickets/Milan Channel subscriptions. it's not about the affection for Kaka; it's about affection for the club! if they don't protest, the management will keep going down this rotten road.
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post Jun 9 2009, 10:04 PM
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Italy boss Marcello Lippi has surprisingly admitted that he is happy to see Kaka leave AC Milan in order to join Real Madrid.

The former Juventus coach, currently in South Africa preparing for the Confederations Cup, believes that Serie A must have fewer foreigners and more Italian content in the squads.

"The more foreigners that leave Italy, the better it is for Italian Calcio," he claimed, speaking to Sky Italia.

The comments seem rather biased, as fewer foreigners in Serie A would allow Lippi to look at a larger pool of players for Azzurri consideration. A prime example would be Inter, the champions of Italy, who only play two Italians on a regular basis - Davide Santon and Mario Balotelli.

Interestingly, Lippi and Kaka will cross paths on June 21, as Italy and Brazil meet in the final match of the Confederations Cup Group stage.


The funniest thing about this is that we will replacing him with another foreigner haha! I mean lets be realistic here, all our transfers will be foreigners (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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How on earth can someone as supposedly intelligent as Lippi say he's glad we've sold Kaka, only because he's not Italian...? is he a Fascist?
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jun 9 2009, 05:14 PM) *
How on earth can someone as supposedly intelligent as Lippi say he's glad we've sold Kaka, only because he's not Italian...? is he a Fascist?

i read that too hahahahahahaha Lippi is losing it
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