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post Apr 3 2007, 10:38 PM
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Champions League 2006/07 - 1/4 finals (2nd leg)

Bayern - Milan

Wednesday, 11th of April, 2007

Time: 19:45 (UK), 20:45 (IT)
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Darunia
post Apr 3 2007, 10:39 PM
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Beyern will probably stifle us and go through on away goals.

Sad but I think our run ends here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Like Darunia said...believe believe believe....we live on faith man....
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 3 2007, 09:49 PM)
Beyern will probably stifle us and go through on away goals.

Sad but I think our run ends here  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Don't speak like that Han (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Last time we won the CL. We won 2-1 in Munich that year, it can be done.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 3 2007, 09:50 PM)


I wish I had more optimism but I think I wasted it all this season.

I has been a heartbreaking one to say the least. And I can't wait for it to be over.

After we are out it will be just going through the motions of it all. And hoping for a fourth spot
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 3 2007, 09:50 PM)
Don't speak like that Han  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Last time we won the CL. We won 2-1 in Munich that year, it can be done.
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Pippo could still actually score during that time.
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post Apr 3 2007, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 3 2007, 09:54 PM)
Pippo could still actually score during that time.
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We didn't have Kaka then though. Kaka now, is better than Pippo was then.
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:00 PM
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Anyway. If we are really going to go for it then it must be an all out attacking game from us.

We can't expect the goals to fall into our hands. Right now we have absolutely nothing to lose. We have to take the gamble

I would like to see us using this formation

Oddo--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
-----Rino---Pirlo---Sergio-----
-------------Kaka--------------
-------Pippo---Oli-------------

Pippo can't play alone, that's obvious to see. And Kaka today was drifting too much to the flanks. We need Sergio. If we actually had some pace on the flanks we could have killed Bayern. With their minds being occupied with tieing down Kaka they will leave Sergio more free.

I think this would be the best gamble we could take.

It's do or die now
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Yeah, we can't mess around.

I agree with that line-up. Sergio will give us that extra bit of pace that Seedrof couldn't.

It's the perfect stage for Oli to prove EVERYBODY wrong, I like the guy and hope we can get the best out of him.

Keep the faith. FORZA MILAN!
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:04 PM
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..... I am so sad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I just wish that last goal didn't go in...
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 3 2007, 10:04 PM)
..... I am so sad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I just wish that last goal didn't go in...
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The Bayern fans were so quiet I didn't think it counted. I thought there was an off-side or something. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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now we need to score atleast 2 goals... is it possible that we can win or am I just dreaming again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:08 PM
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that line-up means that we play with 4 attackers.
And, imagine if we score and all the team goes back to defende, than who will keep the ball in midfield except Pirlo?

Sergio and Kaka can't keep the ball, the can run with the ball but not keep it like Pirlo.

Gattuso, we all know his ball-control.
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 3 2007, 10:08 PM)
that line-up means that we play with 4 attackers.
And, imagine if we score and all the team goes back to defende, than who will keep the ball in midfield except Pirlo?

Sergio and Kaka can't keep the ball, the can run with the ball but not keep it like Pirlo.

Gattuso, we all know his ball-control.
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I'd perfer Kaka and Sergio running at them all game, it will force them to keep players back. If we try and play keep ball, they'll be more confident in moving us back. Thinking we're trying to hold what we have (If we take the lead of course).
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 3 2007, 10:08 PM)
that line-up means that we play with 4 attackers.
And, imagine if we score and all the team goes back to defende, than who will keep the ball in midfield except Pirlo?

Sergio and Kaka can't keep the ball, the can run with the ball but not keep it like Pirlo.

Gattuso, we all know his ball-control.
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It doesn't really matter at this point.

Bayern's defence is fragile, Serio and Kaka could rip them apart if given the chance.

If we miraculously get a lead then we could try to hold it by keeping possession. But not trying to stay back because then we'll get punished for it.

We really should have killed the tie off in the first leg when it was in our grasp, now we have sadly lost control of it.
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I dont know about you guys... screw it im not going to stop and be sad !! God damnit we are going to Munich and were going to beat their asses (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) !!! FORZA MILAN (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) !!! FORZA PIRLO KAKA AND THE WHOLE MILANELO!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Apr 4 2007, 12:46 AM
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yo jefri91...pass me some of that weed while ur at it....it seems like it's good stuff (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just kidding pal...sure we're all hoping...it's just too scary too hope and then be crushed...hence all the reactions.

Agree with whatever u said though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 4 2007, 03:37 AM
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Pizarro worried me a lot, his headers inside the box caused us a lot of trouble. Much more than Podolski anyways.
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QUOTE (Darunia @ Apr 4 2007, 02:37 AM)
Pizarro worried me a lot, his headers inside the box caused us a lot of trouble.  Much more than Podolski anyways.
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Yeah, they were pretty poor until Pizzaro turned up.
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I can't wait till we go to munich and shut down every last one of those cocky german fans on goal.com!!!!!! comon kaka, show them what mc hammer meant by can't touch this! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

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Sagnol is to miss this one due to injury


anyways i hope we get Sergio back by the time...

this would be my line-up:

---------------------------Dida---------------------------

-Oddo---------Nesta--------------Maldini-------Sergio-

-------Gattuso------------Pirlo-----------Ambrosini-----

-------------------Kaka----------Seedorf---------------

--------------------------Inzaghi-------------------------



Sergio, Ambro, Kaka and Inzaghi would be are our decisive players!
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I've been thinking, since Van Bommel will aslo be in this match then Bayern will probably field him next to Hargreaves to tighten up Kaka even more.

So how about playing Kaka as a total out and out striker? Everytime he went up against Bayern's defenders they went into panick mode and couldn't deal with him.

I'm thinking we could play something like this

Oddo--Nesta--Maldini--Kaladze
----Gattuso---Pirlo---Sergio----
--------------Seedorf------------
-----------Pippo--Kaka----------

I think this could work.

Or even trying Serginho out as a supporting forward. I know he's played there before and I think he could be a real thorn in the Bayern defence with his speed and technique. Something like this

Oddo--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
---Gattuso---Pirlo---Ambro---
---------------Kaka-------------
------------------------Sergio--
-----------Pippo----------------
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post Apr 4 2007, 09:20 AM
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Bayern are going to rest on their laurels and go for the goalless draw. You can bet the farm on that. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowed play down to milk the clock as much as possible nearly every time they got the ball.

One away goal is difficult to overcome, two is much worse.
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post Apr 4 2007, 09:41 AM
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Daniel Van Buyten "Milan are probably better away from home but they have to win while we know a clean sheet will be enough"



this is exactly what we want, for them to look for a clean sheet! cause this will take all the pressure of us and sooner or later we'll crack them.
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Apr 4 2007, 10:41 AM)
this is exactly what we want, for them to look for a clean sheet! cause this will take all the pressure of us and sooner or later we'll crack them.
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I like their way of thinking! It helps us...

What I want is the team to show it's character. Even if we're down by two all we want is two goals to take this to over-time... even if at OT we will be exhausted!
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 4 2007, 04:02 PM)
I like their way of thinking! It helps us...

What I want is the team to show it's character. Even if we're down by two all we want is two goals to take this to over-time... even if at OT we will be exhausted!
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Two goals is possible, but if in the San Siro Milan could only score two - out of the many chances the team had - I doubt we'll be able to have our way in Germany. Remember last year ?? We were pushed to a corner and were forced to defend for almost 80 minutes !
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:09 PM)
Two goals is possible, but if in the San Siro Milan could only score two - out of the many chances the team had - I doubt we'll be able to have our way in Germany. Remember last year ?? We were pushed to a corner and were forced to defend for almost 80 minutes !
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We let them keep possession... I hope it won't happen again. Which means I hope Seedorf won't play!
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 4 2007, 04:13 PM)
We let them keep possession... I hope it won't happen again. Which means I hope Seedorf won't play!
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Well, as much as I would like to agree with u, we don't have an alternative (and please don't say Gourcuff, he couldn't handle the pressure last night, even for 6 mins of play left )
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post Apr 4 2007, 03:01 PM
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I have changed my mind and im optimistic about this match, we have done better away from this season

e.g. Lost to Roma 2-1 home but drew and arguably could have won at the olimpico

Got beat by Palermo home but drew at the Barbera

We also have a better defensive record away
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 4 2007, 05:01 PM)
I have changed my mind and im optimistic about this match, we have done better away from this season

e.g. Lost to Roma 2-1 home but drew and arguably could have won at the olimpico

Got beat by Palermo home but drew at the Barbera

We also have a better defensive record away
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Although u have a point ... Last season, we didnt do well in Germany !

As much as I want Milan to win, I doubt that Milan can in Germany, with that said, I doubt we can score 2 goals (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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have faith ross7 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Inzaghi will score a double just like before !! This will not be the end of the road for us !! Lets beat the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!
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im very confused doesnt 1 away goal equal to a draw then we need another goal for the win well i am looking for a draw then penaltys at least Dida is good for that
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QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Apr 4 2007, 02:42 PM)
im very confused doesnt 1 away goal equal to a draw then we need another goal for the win  well i am looking for a draw then penaltys at least Dida is good for that
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0-0 will see them go through
1-1 will see them go through
2-2 will go to extra time
3-3 or anythin above it will see us go through

So it's either win, or get a high scoring draw.

That's why I think we should rest a lot of the team on Saturday. We have subs that are capable of winning against Empoli. We need Oddo, Maldini, Pirlo, ino, Seedorf, Kaka and Pippo to be at their best. And are able to keep the high tempo for the entire 90 minutes. We conceed yesterday because we faultered at the end and some of the players couldn't keep up.

If we somehow manage to esteblish a lead by half time against Empoli then I would consider taking off Nesta, and also putting in Pippo at some point to help him regain some much needed match fitness.

Sergio also needs to play since we really need him against Bayern

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wat if its 2-1 !!
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:05 PM)
wat if its 2-1 !!
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As in we win?

If so then we go through.

Even though I think that's highly unlikely.

I am not optimistic at all about this match. I'm sorry to say this, but we blew it when we allowed in 2 soft goals, probably the softest goals I have seen all season, they even went in softly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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We need to look at our play more carefully. But I'm afraid that Ancelotti is too biased to handle the things right for just 7 days.

Seedorf was very poor - no precision, no pace, no creativity. He was totally out of the game. And it is not his first time - it's been the same for some months now.

He was suposed to shift his position with Kaka and the fullbacks when they were eattaking and to open some space in Bayern's backyard. It never happened. That's why Kaka didn't see much of the ball - there was no one else to put some pressure on the germans and they marked him with numbers.

Don't know why Seedorf stayed on the pitch for so long - he was of no use to the team.

We need a game where our team could open spaces for Kaka one way or another. We have excellent fullbacks like Oddo and Jankulovski. What we need is more action from the midfield to double them on the wings and put maximum pressure on their defence. When Kaka recieved the ball germans were quick to double on him - we just have to do something to avoid that.

Don't think this could happen with Seedorf there in his current form. Unfortunately Sergio is out for too long and don't think that starting with him will be good idea.

We are the better team I have no doubts about that. We are better technically and as individuals. We need to go out and play with condfidence and heart. I'm not convinced that Seedorf and Dida could do that in week time...

It wasn't for bad luck that we failed - we failed because of ourselves. If we are able to understand that - Ancelotti also, we can go there and play game up to our level - there is a good chance that we can do it.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:08 PM)
As in we win?

If so then we go through.

Even though I think that's highly unlikely.

I am not optimistic at all about this match. I'm sorry to say this, but we blew it when we allowed in 2 soft goals, probably the softest goals I have seen all season, they even went in softly  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Interesting discussion.
What I want to happen is usually not the same as what I anticipate ahppening. The same is true here. Obviosuly I want Milan to beat Bayern, and we will have to as I don't believe 3-3 is a possibility. However, I think it is unlikely. Last season I had a lot of faith in Pippo, but I think we all realise that he is, gradually, season by season losing his former predatorial clinical sbility. Without Gila, our chances are low. I don't think Oliveira will be any good. He has been just as hopeless as I anticipated before his arrival. As I don't believe we can win, we should put out a strong side for Empoli.

Getting 4th is paramount. Unless anyone here beleives we can battle through to the final and win it, any further efforts in the CL are a diversion, albeit enjoyable for us, from the real objective, a CL spot for next year. Real trouble if we don't make 4th.

So the match against Bayern we must not rest lots of players for, perhaps one or two, Kaka perhaps, Pirlo too. But little more. We will have to face Bayern perhaps a little tired but we shall have to go th extra mile.

Real problem for me was, largely due to our own formation, we pushed Kaka into being a winger rather than his traditional AMC. He must either hold that posn alone,w hich means Oliveira partners Pippo, not good a mon avi, or, as Han opined, play him as a CF, alongside Pippo, with Seedorf the AMC. The CM on the left could be taken by Serginho as so I subscribe to such a proposed formation, given the circumstances, otheriwse, yes, I would have opted for Pippo and Gila upfront togeter etc.

I think Bayern will manage to score once, either a 1-0 win to them, or 1-1. Either way, us, out.

I hope I'm wrong.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:07 PM)
Although u have a point ... Last season, we didnt do well in Germany !

As much as I want Milan to win, I doubt that Milan can in Germany, with that said, I doubt we can score 2 goals (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Yes, overall they were the better side last season at Allianz, but at that time were different circumstances:

It was the first leg and they had to attack, while we would be happy with 0-0 or 1-1.

This time will go to score at all costs, and try to win.
I also was very pessimistic after the match, but after I saw what Valencia did to Chelsea, and when I remember how Liverpool won 2-1 in Nou Camp - I've got hope, coz after all We Are MILAN! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM)


I like your attitude, as much as I don't agree with you, . (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Costacurta @ Apr 5 2007, 10:08 AM)
Interesting discussion.
What I want to happen is usually not the same as what I anticipate ahppening. The same is true here. Obviosuly I want Milan to beat Bayern, and we will have to as I don't believe 3-3 is a possibility. However, I think it is unlikely. Last season I had a lot of faith in Pippo, but I think we all realise that he is, gradually, season by season losing his former predatorial clinical sbility. Without Gila, our chances are low. I don't think Oliveira will be any good. He has been just as hopeless as I anticipated before his arrival. As I don't believe we can win, we should put out a strong side for Empoli.

Getting 4th is paramount. Unless anyone here beleives we can battle through to the final and win it, any further efforts in the CL are a diversion, albeit enjoyable for us, from the real objective, a CL spot for next year. Real trouble if we don't make 4th.

So the match against Bayern we must not rest lots of players for, perhaps one or two, Kaka perhaps, Pirlo too. But little more. We will have to face Bayern perhaps a little tired but we shall have to go th extra mile.

Real problem for me was, largely due to our own formation, we pushed Kaka into being a winger rather than his traditional AMC. He must either hold that posn alone,w hich means Oliveira partners Pippo, not good a mon avi, or, as Han opined, play him as a CF, alongside Pippo, with Seedorf the AMC. The CM on the left could be taken by Serginho as so I subscribe to such a proposed formation, given the circumstances, otheriwse, yes, I would have opted for Pippo and Gila upfront togeter etc.

I think Bayern will manage to score once, either a 1-0 win to them, or 1-1. Either way, us, out.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Good post. Even though I think we should rest players against Empoli.

I'm really thorn about this. Thankfully I am not the one who has to make the decision, Carlo is.

But imo, we have good enough players to rotate for the game against Empoli and win it. With Serginho back Carlo has a lot of options of where he could field him to rest some players and get him match fit for Bayern. If he comes out with the form Nesta has then I will be more confident about him helping us against Bayern.
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It seems that we won't be allowed to use the bwin.com thing on our shirt in this match. Probably some german rule or so.

Otherwise we'll have a 100.000 euros fine. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 5 2007, 06:21 PM)
It seems that we won't be allowed to use the bwin.com thing on our shirt in this match. Probably some german rule or so.

Otherwise we'll have a 100.000 euros fine.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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What the hell? So we'll be wearing no sponsor on our shirt?
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maybe most of you don't give a sh*t about the past statistics (Under Berlusconi's area) but I found some interesting matches that made me more optimistic about this match:

Season 1988-1989
Quarter-final against Bremen
0-0 at Home, 0-1 Away win.

Semi-final:
First Leg: Milan - Real 1-1
Second Leg: Real - Milan 0-5


Season 1989-1990
Quarter-final
first-leg at home 0-0, second-leg away win 0-2 against Mechelen (never heard BTW)

again that's just history, but WE managed to do it in Berlusconi area, and we can do it again.

After all, I'm just trying to encourage you guys, coz I've never read so many pesimistic opinions in milanfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 5 2007, 07:29 PM)

Dunno. 100k euros is not that much for Milan/Berlusconi. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 5 2007, 03:35 AM)


Are you serious? I'll take you on if you are!
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QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 5 2007, 09:31 PM)
maybe most of you don't give a sh*t about the past statistics (Under Berlusconi's area) but I found some interesting matches that made me more optimistic about this match:

Season 1988-1989
Quarter-final against Bremen
0-0 at Home, 0-1 Away win.

Semi-final:
First Leg:      Milan - Real 1-1
Second Leg:  Real - Milan 0-5


Season 1989-1990
Quarter-final
first-leg at home 0-0, second-leg away win 0-2 against Mechelen (never heard BTW)

again that's just history, but WE managed to do it in Berlusconi area, and we can do it again.

After all, I'm just trying to encourage you guys, coz I've never read so many pesimistic opinions in milanfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Give me the players that we had back then and I will be optimistic too. Although we still have a chance on Wednesday too
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 5 2007, 01:02 PM)
Give me the players that we had back then and I will be optimistic too. Although we still have a chance on Wednesday too
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The only chance we have on wednesday is to put in a good display and go out with our heads held high and not get ridiculed.

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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 5 2007, 10:04 PM)
The only chance we have is Wen is to put in a good display and go out with our heads held high and not get ridiculed.
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C'mon it's football. Anything can happen: red card, penalty , ricochet goal, Milan giving their best game this season...
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It's going to look silly not having a sponsor on our shirt. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Glad to see people are being optimistic though. We may not have the best Milan side in history. But neither do Bayern, Willy Sagnol will be missed alot.

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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 5 2007, 01:08 PM)
C'mon it's football. Anything can happen: red card, penalty , ricochet goal, Milan giving their best game this season...
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If you wanna look at it that way... A plane crash on the way to Munich caused by a bolt of lightning could happen as well...
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 5 2007, 09:37 PM)
If you wanna look at it that way... A plane crash on the way to Munich caused by a bolt of lightning could happen as well...
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There's always the chance I get given the European Cup for being me, too.
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The good news:

No mather the result we'll get in Munchen... we'll still be the #1 in UEFA ranking for the next year draw (I hope we'll be in CL draw (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ).
Barcelona and Inter are out. The only 2 that could do something.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/d.../trank2007.html

The bad news:

We better do something big, next year in the CL as we're basically out this season.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 6 2007, 12:37 AM)
If you wanna look at it that way... A plane crash on the way to Munich caused by a bolt of lightning could happen as well...
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You are talking like we some small team coming there without any chance. They aren't that big and we aren't that weak.

Nobody gave a chance to Deportivo too...
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 5 2007, 08:02 PM)
Give me the players that we had back then and I will be optimistic too. Although we still have a chance on Wednesday too
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we are not that weak.
trust me!

I think we are missing luck this season. And if the next match proves to be the changing point, than we are in semi's.
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QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 6 2007, 12:07 AM)
we are not that weak.
trust me!

I think we are missing luck this season. And if the next match proves to be the changing point, than we are in semi's.
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I too am pessimistic about us winning in Germany, but mishas' got a point we can go through as it is football (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Still, highly unlikely
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 6 2007, 02:20 AM)
If we made to the semis, I promise I'll ask m1ke to change my username to "Porty".  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)  
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:20 AM)
I too am pessimistic about us winning in Germany, but mishas' got a point we can go through as it is football  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Still, highly unlikely
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 6 2007, 02:29 AM)
Usually you are the one who are optimistic over here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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What can I say .. I was shocked at the game on tuesday, that left me shcked even today. I still cant believe we lost
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:30 AM)
What can I say .. I was shocked at the game on tuesday, that left me shcked even today. I still cant believe we lost
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Yes, the draw felt like a loss but we can do that to them too. They are not that good this season
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QUOTE (mishale @ Apr 6 2007, 12:26 AM)

Well... I consider "Porty" a bit gay. But maybe it's just me. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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3-3 anyone...
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 6 2007, 02:54 AM)
Well... I consider "Porty" a bit gay. But maybe it's just me.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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If I was a betting man I wouldn't be putting money on us getting through.....but don't forget that it was only a DRAW in the first leg (even though it felt like a loss) and a 0-1 will get us through. Anyone who says that is impossible hasn't been watching football for very long.

If both teams play like they did in the first leg, we have a real chance to go through. We had some great chances to score but were denied by some lucky/unbelievable saves (Gila's and Ambro's headers), a very tight offside decision (Gila's disallowed goal) and some bad finishing (Kaka's miss in the second half). The ony saves I can remember Dida making were from long range shots by Ottl and Schweinsteiger. We will DEFINITELY need to defend better than we did if we are to have any chance.

I think alot of it will come down to the 'roar factor' at the Allianz, and whether the crowd have a big impact on the players. If the crowd become the 12th man and Bayern really lift their performance from the first leg then it will be hard for us.

But if we can improve our defending (which was pretty good apart from the two clangers which led to the goals) and create the same type of chances, then by no means is it completely beyond us to get through.

Again, Bayern are definitely favourites, but don't give up on Milan yet.

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If I`m not wrong, Bayern have their Bundesliga problems exactly at the Allianz Arena. But then again, we can`t expect them to play at home like they did against BVB.

But the first match result worries me. 2-2 is like a loss. They will be even stronger with van Bommel and Kahn back. And our defence is...well, let me comment one thing: I do criticize many players like Oddo and Gila all the time, and once more against Bayern they showed me my opinion of them isn`t that wrong, but after that game I felt that someone else had to be blamed - Carlo. His subs...I never did attack him for his subs...but...why didn`t he changed the old Maldini put? Why did he put Gourcuff 5 minutes before the end in? Gourcuff is green and should be brought eventually in for the last 15 minutes. But the last 5 minutes? Man, in that time, we need only a routinee, even Costacurta would be better.

I don`t know what to say more,...except that we will have to score 2 goals in München cause our defence has no chance to end up the match with a clean sheet. And who is gonna take the goals? Kaka? That would be too much to except from him...Pippo and Oli? I`m really not sure. Maybe Serginho will be fit?
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Kahn is back so we should shout whenever we get the chance. Even from our own half! For every 4 shots on target, a goal will come!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 6 2007, 12:56 PM)
I don`t know what to say more,...except that we will have to score 2 goals in München cause our defence has no chance to end up the match with a clean sheet. And who is gonna take the goals? Kaka? That would be too much to except from him...Pippo and Oli? I`m really not sure. Maybe Serginho will be fit?
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actually he is my only hope, BUT if we want to see the best of him, we must play with 2 strikers + Kaka. With this strategy he will find more spaces in their defence, otherwise if we still countinue playing with 1 striker that would kill us.
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QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 6 2007, 01:32 PM)
actually he is my only hope, BUT if we want to see the best of him, we must play with 2 strikers + Kaka. With this strategy he will find more spaces in their defence, otherwise if we still countinue playing with 1 striker that would kill us.
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Thats not possible...only Oli and Pippo are avaible.
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Kahn is back so we should shout whenever we get the chance. Even from our own half! For every 4 shots on target, a goal will come!!


You mean for every four shouts(?) on target a goal will come. What do you suggest, we remove the entire first team and put in the tifosi. They'll shout alright!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Porto, you know I'm going to pm mike and tell him to change it to that if we do go through don't you?

Lucky for you the possibility is a really low one, so you won't have to worry about having a gay user name (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Bluesummers named him Porty I think. I just started calling him that. And why do you think it's gay??!!! You blokes are all homophobic! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I really can't see us going through. Last seaso maybe. But this season, there has been nothing to convince me we can do this. We've had to 'fight back' against teams we would have steam-rollered earlier, and we've lost to teams we would have severely mauled.

It's possible on paper...but paper's just that.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 6 2007, 12:43 PM)
I really can't see us going through. Last seaso maybe. But this season, there has been nothing to convince me we can do this. We've had to 'fight back' against teams we would have steam-rollered earlier, and we've lost to teams we would have severely mauled.

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i'm still devastated by tuesday's game but i don't know why but i've got a feeling about this and i reckon 1-2 with pippo and kaka as our scorers!!
and yes porty does sound gay (sorry)
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and yes porty does sound gay (sorry)



Sigh...the whole world is against me!!!

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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 6 2007, 06:43 PM)
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Bluesummers named him Porty I think. I just started calling him that. And why do you think it's gay??!!! You blokes are all homophobic! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I really can't see us going through. Last seaso maybe. But this season, there has been nothing to convince me we can do this. We've had to 'fight back' against teams we would have steam-rollered earlier, and we've lost to teams we would have severely mauled.

It's possible on paper...but paper's just that.
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Very true Jack. I myself have already prepared myself for being knocked out so I won't be as disappointed.

Last Tuesday's game was devastating, especially after probably playing our best game in months and still coming out wih the short end of the stick.

Van Buyten's goal was probably the nail in the coffin for our CL campaign.

I mean when BAYERN, of all teams, somehow get lucky against us, MILAN, TWICE over the course of one game, then you know that this is just not our season

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All this reminds me of something i think Gary Lineker once said: "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win." (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Apr 7 2007, 02:10 PM)
All this reminds me of something i think Gary Lineker once said: "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win." (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Well, I really must say that no option is sure or even realistic. If you look at Milan, on paper or not, they can beat Bayern. But the same works if you make an inversion. And that`s the thing with big teams that play not that big. The situation at FCB is very similar to ours, they have sever problems and not every position in the team is filled up probperly. Who scored against Real besides Maakay? Van Bommel who turned over night into a Ballack replacement...and Lucio! Against us..still - Lucio. Schwein is underpreforming, just like Lahm and Poldi do. So why couldn`t we beat them with our own "fake Sheva replacement" Oliveira? It goes to our advantage that Salihamidžić is suspended and not avaible - the only real countable creative force for FCB at this moment.

Our team should be formed this time more like a crafty-cohesive force, a team with strenght. Cause that`s what we`v showed at San Siro - that we have a advantage in the mid. I would really give Maldini the bench this time cause we need a faster and much less exhausted CB. You allways can count on that Lyon effect from last year, when Maldini entered the game from the bench. But starting with him means that we will eventually have to substitute him (or maybe Carlo is insane, cause, letting Maldini play 90 mins is one of the reasons we "lost" the first match). And that sub would be rather a minus and a psychological deficite than any advantage...

I`m very interested what the news are about Serginho? Can he play for real at München? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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What do u mean bench Maldini !!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

No, Maldini should be the first player to be on the pitch.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 7 2007, 01:59 PM)
What do u mean bench Maldini !!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

No, Maldini should be the first player to be on the pitch.
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And why? So that Carlo has to make a sub lets say in th 75th minute where it could be easily a "be-or-not-be" position for us? Or do you think Maldini can hold up all 90 minutes? I don`t...I`ve seen all what I needed at San Siro.

The only way to win against FCB is to play a stormy and powerfull match. And for that we need strenght and freshness. Maldini should be on the bench, and enter the game afterwards...
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Paolo has to be on, because EXPERIENCE and PROFESSIONALISM is what we need in defence for such a game.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 7 2007, 05:08 PM)
And why? So that Carlo has to make a sub lets say in th 75th minute where it could be easily a "be-or-not-be" position for us? Or do you think Maldini can hold up all 90 minutes? I don`t...I`ve seen all what I needed at San Siro.

The only way to win against FCB is to play a stormy and powerfull match. And for that we need strenght and freshness. Maldini should be on the bench, and enter the game afterwards...
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Excuse me, but are u high on crack or something ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Paolo Maldini is the first player on the pitch and the last off as far as I am concerned. You know why ?? Cuz not even Silvio Berlusconi take him off ! This team is Paolo's team and if he doesn't feel fit to play, he will say it and he will choose not to go on the field.

p.s. no offence, but this is Milan 101, Paolo is the only one who decides if he wants to play and not, and no one else. If the doctors clear him, he will play 90 minutes. I can bet u money on that.
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Excuse me, but are u high on crack or something ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Paolo Maldini is the first player on the pitch and the last off as far as I am concerned. You know why ?? Cuz not even Silvio Berlusconi take him off ! This team is Paolo's team and if he doesn't feel fit to play, he will say it and he will choose not to go on the field.

p.s. no offence, but this is Milan 101, Paolo is the only one who decides if he wants to play and not, and no one else. If the doctors clear him, he will play 90 minutes. I can bet u money on that.
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Ancelotti rides Empoli wave

Carlo Ancelotti hopes that the victory over Empoli can boost Milan’s morale for the “very difficult” clash with Bayern Munich.

“We started well and passed the ball around quickly, so the strikers were supported by some good build-up play,” he noted after the 3-1 win at San Siro.

Ronaldo opened the scoring and set up Alberto Gilardino’s goal before Giuseppe Favalli sealed the scoreline. Luca Saudati netted for the visitors.

“If he has space, Ronaldo can disturb any defence. If he has another striker to focus on like Gilardino, then he links in with the overall play even more.”

Yoann Gourcuff was given a rare start in midfield, as Clarence Seedorf is dealing with a slight injury.

“He is a lad Milan are counting on, because he has enormous potential. He has found his own role here and will continue to increase his influence.

“He has to speed up a little in passing the ball, but he has a lot of confidence with the ball at his feet and it’s tough to get it off him. He loves the ball a little too much, a bit like Zinedine Zidane.”

Ancelotti was expected to also rest Andrea Pirlo and Gennaro Gattuso for Wednesday’s Champions League quarter-final, but instead they played the whole 90 minutes.

“They are in great shape and also did well against Bayern this week, which is why I wanted them here for this important match.”

The win over Empoli sees the Rossoneri move to fifth place – just one point off Palermo who have played an extra game – but the focus now moves to Munich.

“Bayern are an excellent side and we have a tough task ahead of us,” said Ancelotti after the 2-2 first leg draw at San Siro.

“Our objective is to play the way we did in that first game. If we do, then we have a good chance of reaching the semi-finals.”

However, Ronaldo is cup-tied and Gilardino suspended, so Pippo Inzaghi and Ricardo Oliveira are the only available options upfront.

“Inzaghi is not in good shape, but he will do everything he can to be at his best. This is a player who can be a crucial weapon for us.”


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 8 2007, 12:14 AM)
I think that seals our faith for us in this season's CL  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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I'm optimistic. Even with no actual forwards, Kaka will play upfront. I believe we can win in Munich!!

Just go bow before your Milan shirt and kiss the badge and your attitude will change. It works for me... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 7 2007, 10:24 PM)
I'm optimistic. Even with no actual forwards, Kaka will play upfront. I believe we can win in Munich!!

Just go bow before your Milan shirt and kiss the badge and your attitude will change. It works for me...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I'll try it.

But I had a real sinking fealing that Van Buyten's equaliser on Tuesday was the end for us in the CL.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 8 2007, 12:26 AM)
I'll try it.

But I had a real sinking fealing that Van Buyten's equaliser on Tuesday was the end for us in the CL.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 7 2007, 10:26 PM)
But I had a real sinking fealing that Van Buyten's equaliser on Tuesday was the end for us in the CL.
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Exactly how I felt.

But, we're Milan (such a cliche, but it's true!). On our day we can beat anyone in the world, and we've got a great chance in Munich of going to the semi's. All it's going to take is a Kaka run or a Pirlo FK, and we just need to hope our defence holds up.

To be honest I don't really think Milan belong in the semi's this year - we're not playing our best football and we need to address a number of issues in the team. But we can only beat what's put infront of us, and I think we're going to beat Bayern on Wednesday night, simply because we have to. All I want is for every Milan player to give 110% for 90 minutes - if they do that, we're going to win.

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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 4 2007, 08:02 AM)
I like their way of thinking! It helps us...

What I want is the team to show it's character. Even if we're down by two all we want is two goals to take this to over-time... even if at OT we will be exhausted!
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you see it's a mind game. just cuz he said that doesnt mean that what they're actually thinking. in the end what milan must do is attack and put bayern under pressure regardless of what sorta stratgey they adopt.
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QUOTE (m1ke @ Apr 8 2007, 02:51 AM)
All I want is for every Milan player to give 110% for 90 minutes - if they do that, we're going to win.
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That would be the best gift for us fans! Even if they don't manage to win in Munich watching them giving their all would be satisfactory! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Apr 8 2007, 04:48 AM)
you see it's a mind game. just cuz he said that doesnt mean that what they're actually thinking. in the end what milan must do is attack and put bayern under pressure regardless of what sorta stratgey they adopt.
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you're right!
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I'm confident were gonna win against bayern with ease. They may be a strong side but creating no real opportunities in the first leg is quite pitiful by the great over hyped bayern. Both of their goals came from 2 lucky shots from a very very very very lucky defender. Gilardino is a big loss to and i just hope to god that inzaghi and oli can contemplate for that loss. Oli i dont think has the skill to cut it as a CF. Inzaghi has been terrible all season and we would need a miracle in him to come alive in order to score. I really want ambro on the pitch during this game. His heading is dangerous and can win us games. I've bet 50$ on this game that milan will win and i'm very confident about it.

Here is my line up if i was in carlo's shoes:
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Oddo --- Nesta ---- Maldini -- janku

Gattuso---pirlo---ambro----gourcuff(seedorf)

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Inzaghi(oli)-can't choose


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That would be line-up too. With Gourcuff (Yeah han I know, we need Seedorf's experience for these games but you know what? I'd rather we lose and I get to see Milan run again than watch Clarence doing his pensionary stuff! Also, it will be a gain for the future if Yoann plays) and Oli (They don't know him and there is a 0,001% chance that he may do something good. I'm pretty sure Inzaghi can't do nothing. He looks awfully weak, looks like a junkie, they will easily take him out of the picture)
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 8 2007, 08:04 AM)
I'm confident were gonna win against bayern with ease.  They may be a strong side but creating no real opportunities in the first leg is quite pitiful by the great over hyped bayern.  Both of their goals came from 2 lucky shots from a very very very very lucky defender.  Gilardino is a big loss to and i just hope to god that inzaghi and oli can contemplate for that loss.  Oli i dont think has the skill to cut it as a CF.  Inzaghi has been terrible all season and we would need a miracle in him to come alive in order to score.  I really want ambro on the pitch during this game.  His heading is dangerous and can win us games.  I've bet 50$ on this game that milan will win and i'm very confident about it.

Here is my line up if i was in carlo's shoes:
    ------            Dida
Oddo ---    Nesta  ---- Maldini  --  janku

    Gattuso---pirlo---ambro----gourcuff(seedorf)

          ------------        kaka--             
                  Inzaghi(oli)-can't choose
and yes han and porto, you can start the criticism.
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Not going to criticise. I just admire your optimism. Me, I just don't have it anymore. Just want this season to finally be over and done with so we can start a new one, with LEVEL points as everyone else and in good physical condition.

btw, how about sticking Ambrisini in as a CF. I know this might sound crazy but I think he can pull it off. None of our strikers have the physical build to put up with the 2 giants Bayern have in the center, as clumsy as they both are, their physical advantage over our striker was very evident. If you keep putting in crosses for Ambro he is bound to score and he will handle dumb and dumber much better then any of our misfiring strikers.

Also, Bayern only beat us in the physical battle, we played such a high tempo game and where pressing som much in the first leg that we eventually got tired and lost control of it in the last 15 minutes. But in the tactical and technical sense we won both battles.

But I don't think Bayern will be as bad as they were in the San Siro
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 8 2007, 01:08 PM)
^^
That would be line-up too. With Gourcuff (Yeah han I know, we need Seedorf's experience for these games but you know what? I'd rather we lose and I get to see Milan run again than watch Clarence doing his pensionary stuff! Also, it will be a gain for the future if Yoann plays) and Oli (They don't know him and there is a 0,001% chance that he may do something good. I'm pretty sure Inzaghi can't do nothing. He looks awfully weak, looks like a junkie, they will easily take him out of the picture)
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Hmmm...I`d still prefer Seedorf. Inzaghi? I belive he can do something. But you`r right he is really bad looking... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . FCB has a clumsy defense and we should make that to our advantage. Van Buyten is playing awfull, his marking is terrible. So the only picture of seeing Pippo squeezing himself through does Bayern Gorrillas in my mind makes me..

And as I said, we will have to count on Serginho...I still remember his golden days, when he scored against Bayern a couple of years back in the CL.

I saw the game FCB played against Hannover. And it worries me. They had 2 chances, and made two goals. And both where extra class goals from the beginning of the action to the very last finish. And once more, they came back from 1:0...

Also, Ottmar Hitzfeld is the main reason FCB worries me. With him they have a chance to knock us out. He`s even superior to Carlo I suppose.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Well, What will be will be, sure we all can be proud that our guys, our "signoria" stands near to the CL finals... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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QUOTE (dst @ Apr 8 2007, 12:08 PM)
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That would be line-up too. With Gourcuff (Yeah han I know, we need Seedorf's experience for these games but you know what? I'd rather we lose and I get to see Milan run again than watch Clarence doing his pensionary stuff! Also, it will be a gain for the future if Yoann plays) and Oli (They don't know him and there is a 0,001% chance that he may do something good. I'm pretty sure Inzaghi can't do nothing. He looks awfully weak, looks like a junkie, they will easily take him out of the picture)
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Yoann definately helps our game better then Clarence, but I just don't think he can handle the pressure. But since we're proabably out anyway then what the hell? Pl;ay Yoann, at least, as you said, this will be good to help him gain more experiance for the future.

Gila and R9 will be the ones that are sorely missed though. I think Oli can play well as a lone striker, he will probably take more markers with his movement and hopefully freeing Kaka up more.

I think Sergio could be a great asset also, if we don't score after the first half then I would bring him on in the second. In the first leg everytime Kaka managed to find space and run at their CBs they where panicing all over the place, so imagine putting in Sergio and Kaka and maybe Oli also can do something, he has pace and technique and could cause some problems.

I personally would like to see this line up

Oddo--Nesta--Maldini--Janku
-Rino--Pirlo--Ambro/Sergio-
---Kaka--Yaonn/Clarence---
----------Oli/Pippo------------
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