[Fillipo Simone]

Oh come on guys! You're really oversimplifying now. I hate Kalinić but today he's hardly to be blamed.

We simply lost our energy and went out of steam way to fast. The Cuadrado goal is down to Hakan being completely exhausted and out, while Rodriguez was his usual in marking.

[maldini03]

Has to be a combination of the last two posts. Kalinic was a baffling decision but looking at our bench we are threadbare. Cuadrado and Diego Costa are better than our starters and they both came off the bench for Juve. Tough to keep up with.

[han2503]

Switched off, just like the team. We played a great first half but simply couldn't keep it up.

Rino was doing an impeccable job with his subs in the previous games but today he got it completely wrong. Biglia's defensive work was crucial for us and the moment he took him off we lost control in the midfield. Add in the Kalinic sub, which went on to kill our offensive game and we really lost the plot in these last 20 minutes.

Too bad, because he had gotten it perfectly spot on before that.

Cutrone should have come on, either for Silva or Bona. And Monto should only have come on for Bona or maybe Kessie, not Biglia. Biglia is our balance and metronome, he gets a lot of stick but he's the one who covers our defence and starts our plays

[X-Offender]

I'm sad. We shouldn't have lost this. We played one of the best first halves I can remember. Too bad we couldn't hold on till the end.

[han2503]

Oh come on guys! You're really oversimplifying now. I hate Kalinić but today he's hardly to be blamed.

We simply lost our energy and went out of steam way to fast. The Cuadrado goal is down to Hakan being completely exhausted and out, while Rodriguez was his usual in marking.

Kalinic killed our offensive game, no doubt about that. Silva's hold up play and passing were creating a lot of problems for Juve. Kalinic's first touch was to give it away to a Juve player

But yes, it's not just his fault, the Biglia sub was even more detrimental as we lost the hold we had on the game, which we were running before that point.

To simply put, we played the best we could within our limits. Our players were exhausted by the point 2 pacey wingers came on for Juve, both of which are lethal in their own way, it just goes to show the quality they have coming off the bench. Something we simply don't have. Rino played our best team today, and we were going toe to toe with the league leaders and for the majority of the game we were better. But I said this at HT, if we drop off, we'll lose, and that's what we did, because the starting players were getting tired and we had to replace them with others who are simply not good enough. Rino's subs were bad, but the man has his hands tied in terms of what card he can play off the bench.

Maybe he should have started with Cutrone and introduce Silva, but hind sight is 20/20

[han2503]

I'm sad. We shouldn't have lost this. We played one of the best first halves I can remember. Too bad we couldn't hold on till the end.

We were unlucky as well. Silva had a golden opportunity while Hakan hit the post. Juve have had the bounce of the ball going their way for 7 years now and it's not going to end anytime soon

Anyway, losing to Juve away from home is not something to be ashamed of, the sad thing is that we could have killed this in the first hour of the game but couldn't. We suffered the consequences of that, as usual. But the performance encourages me greatly

We can still win the derby on Wednesday and be back into the fold for the CL places. Inter and Roma still have to play Juve if I'm not mistaken while Lazio are very up and down with their performances so we must not lose hope.

The faith I have in Rino to whip them back into shape mentally is endless. There's no doubt he'll rip them a new one for switching off so badly in the last 20 minutes or so and they'll learn from this as well. The lack of a proper goal scorer and winger will continue to hurt us immensely throughout the season I'm afraid.

[Fillipo Simone]

Agreed

[X-Offender]

Well, a win in the derby would bring 5 points from Inter. So yeah, back in the game. But a draw or loss, well, it would be the end of the season for us.

That start to the season under Montella is gonna cost us big.

[han2503]

Well, a win in the derby would bring 5 points from Inter. So yeah, back in the game. But a draw or loss, well, it would be the end of the season for us.

That start to the season under Montella is gonna cost us big.

Like I said after the Chievo game, it's always been an uphill battle for us considering how we started our season. Had Inter not had a 2 month meltdown we wouldn't even be entertaining the idea of top 4 anyway.

There's still a shot, no doubt, and the way we played yesterday gives me a lot of hope. We just happened to face the best club in the league who basically have 2 top notch teams available to them. When Costa and Cuadrado came on I think all of us expected the game to change, our FBs were getting tired and so were Kessie and our wingers. The subs from Rino were incorrect but the way he set his team up was perfect and we were making Juve look bad for the majority of the game, sadly we do not have a Costa to put in when legs are getting tired, that's the difference.

I think if we play like we did yesterday, we'll win the derby, Inter are regaining form, but they won against Verona and an imploding Samp team. We'll see if they're really back on Wednesday. I'm not going to lose faith, if we lose the derby it's over but we still need to make sure we finish as high as we can and try to win the Coppa as well. So we still have things to play for.

Btw, Biglia is suspended for the Inter game so that's a big blow, Monto looked completely out of it when he came on yesterday

Anyway, the game yesterday gave me hope, but I'm still sad about how things went down in those last 20 minutes or so. Rino should have just played for the draw when Juve made their changes.

[Rossoneri7]

The derby will definitely define the remainder of the season, but we must not pour judgement on Ringho as he inherited a this team along with the results. If he is victorious then he has proved his wits and if Milan loses then he would have also proved his wits. This team has potential, just needs time to get them into the optimal Scudetto/CL winning engine.

This season has definitely been a transitional one lol, cant call it a disaster nor can I say it beat expectations. Seasons like these are healthy, allows you to gradually build game on game, then at the end of the season do necessary changes to the squad. I was impressed in that in the winter the club didnt go shopping nor did they act on existing players; rather they gave this team the full season it deserves.

Hopefully next season will be taken with a more aggressive approach by the club to push for a CL place. As seen against Juve, the engine is fuctional, just missing the one or two TOP players that we lack (bar the defense). A magician if you will that will make substance out of our attack and a midfielder that will produce the goods Seedorf used to (Im thinking de bruyne). What I am saying is we are not far off.

[han2503]

The derby will definitely define the remainder of the season, but we must not pour judgement on Ringho as he inherited a this team along with the results. If he is victorious then he has proved his wits and if Milan loses then he would have also proved his wits. This team has potential, just needs time to get them into the optimal Scudetto/CL winning engine.

This season has definitely been a transitional one lol, cant call it a disaster nor can I say it beat expectations. Seasons like these are healthy, allows you to gradually build game on game, then at the end of the season do necessary changes to the squad. I was impressed in that in the winter the club didnt go shopping nor did they act on existing players; rather they gave this team the full season it deserves.

Hopefully next season will be taken with a more aggressive approach by the club to push for a CL place. As seen against Juve, the engine is fuctional, just missing the one or two TOP players that we lack (bar the defense). A magician if you will that will make substance out of our attack and a midfielder that will produce the goods Seedorf used to (Im thinking de bruyne). What I am saying is we are not far off.

I don't think anyone is blaming Rino. I think he made a couple of mistakes with his changes, but the set-up of the team from the start of the game was perfect imo. He's showing how tactically astute he is and this is why I think we should keep him for the coming seasons. Had it all been down to his motivational skills with nothing to back it up, we'd have crashed and burned a long time ago. We've beaten nearly all the top half teams since he's taken over, that's not something one can do by accident or by simply riling the players up before a game.

His hands were tied by the choices he had coming off the bench. He could have made better subs by shutting the game down when it was obvious that Juve were switching to another gear that we didn't have when Allegri made his subs. Imo, he should have brought on Musacchio, Borini and Cutrone for Calabria, Bona and Hakan in that order. We needed to counteract the subs Juve made. and Borini and Musacchio would have served that purpose. Add to that, Silva was doing a perfectly good job of holding up the play and playing in the mids while keeping the Juve back line on their toes, Cutrone would have served to ruffle their feathers eve more. When Kalinic came on the Juve defence relaxed as he provided zilch. So the bad passing and errors we were seeing before then because of our pressing stopped as they weren't being put under any pressure on the ball.


Anyway. On to the derby and I believe we can get the result we want if we play at the level we did against Juve.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Inter scored

[CrazyMilanFan]

Was that off side?

[han2503]

Ruled offside by VAR

[han2503]

WTF are they doing?

Started the second half asleep