news:

-Berlusconi and Galliani spent the day in a meeting on whether to go through with the sale of Silva or not.

-The negotiations for the player have been finalized.

-Due to financial pressure on the club, milan is forced to sell Silva but Berlusconi is still unsure as to whether or not he wishes to sell Silva.


If milan keep silva, only free transfers or transfers around the 5m mark will arive. If milan sell silva, a couple players could move to milan.


Skysports




Galliani: Berlusconi wants to keep silva


GDS

Why not make moves like sending away Antonio for some cash, invest in younger players that way we have people from the next generation to sell off in a few years time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Shush now, don't give Galliani and Berlusconi any ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) One never knows, they very well may. I blame it all the beautiful bald one, he handed out such heavy contracts in the last decade, we haven't recovered. Then made the mistake of keeping Carlo on for more than five years, when the usual shelf life for a coach is 5 years.

All this and a pretty bad scouting system, stupid deals for youth that usually ended costing us money. Never investing in a quality youth system (until now, I believe we got around 12 young players a couple of seasons back) that saw young talent gradually being integrated into the squad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) For all his tears and sweats Zambrotta did nothing better than what a mid-20 youngster could do if given proper chances.

All this bad and corrupt management has us on the verge of selling our best player again after three years - Shava in 2006, Kaka in 2009 and now Silva in 2012. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) It's not about the money, it's about balancing ambition with good financial management. And some people call Galliani a good CEO of a football club. When it's obvious the guy is stuck in the 80s and 90s. The reality of football, the dynamics of the game, the rules of the sport have very obviously changed. Pity Adriano Galliani never got the memo. Sneaking up a few frugal deals does not a good head of a club make.

Quite often it's the people who create something are the ones that end up destroying it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'm not saying Silva is a goner, not saying that Milan will hear a death-knell by his sale (no player is bigger than the club, ever and always), but the biggest side effect we'll have is that it will show a terrible lack of ambition on Milan's part. And that will deter quality players from coming here in the future. Particularly when we are a player and half short from being a Champions League contender to a Big Ears Winner. That's the sad part if you ask me.

Then again, the voices that have come up these past few days may very well kill the deal - for now. Ibra, Cassano, Robinho and even Boateng could see this as a sign of a sinking ship and may jump. Like I said, it's the intent and show of ambition that counts. Particularly when everyone knows Juventus will come hard at us domestically from now on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) As I said above, we very well may see Silva stay - for another year at least - until Barcelona, Madrid or Manchester City come knocking again.

We've got the world's best player (at his position, the CB) and another one that is in the top two or three (Ibra as a forward). If one leaves, the other may not stay. One bad/harsh/quick/reckless move, and we could end up right where we started. This mini-project will fail - the one started two years back with Ibra, Robinho and friends.

Zlatan desperate for psg move says representatives.


-goal

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jun 14 2012, 01:46 AM

Great post bro!

But to be honest I'm not sure how much ambition can a team in a country in a severe economic downturn can have without appearing insensitive. Utter depression all around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

How about Spain they are just as f@cked economically.

But Spain is f@cked economically. It's not just Madrid and Barca in there. All the others are screwed.

It bothers me about the FFP though. If FFP is really true and UEFA is not gonna cave in if the 'big clubs' make a fuss, then what we're doing is hard to find fault with. Better to close out our debts getting max value for assets when clubs are still willing to pay crazy prices.

This is of course only the first move in the chess game. For eg.

- Before FFP, I sell Silva to PSG for 47 million. My debts are slashed.
- FFP comes into play, my accounts are good, so I have money to spend.
- PSG's accounts aren't they have to let go of players and wages if they want Europe.
- I pay 50 million and get Pastore and Silva.


I mean of course, this is a very simplistic example...but it's the only thing that would justify our actions from a football club perspective. It's probably just 90% Silvio's cash problems though.

The only good thing about this is we're doing this really early in the window so we have an idea of how to strengthen etc. Imagine if Silva were to leave 2 days before season start!!

Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Cheers, man!


Normally what you are saying would make total sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) But you either survive as a football club, or you appear sensitive and die. Die in this case become another case of Liverpool or in our case finish 4th, 5th for a few years straight. Enter a vicious cycle where a big injunction of cash would be the only thing that saves us.

I mean, you are earning around 250m, fix your wages so they are half or less. Make it a priority. Then aggressively expand and build on markets where we can further grow as a company, as a club. And frankly, I my mind would have been much at ease if we were a publicly traded company, just so all our finances could be independently audited. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) As I said in my post, it's all a combination of short-term planning, messed up priorities, lack of domestic/European success after 2007, heavy handed wages, and maybe even some financial imprudence.

Do we know for a fact that we really are losing 70m every year which is covered out of Berlu's pocket? Really? If so, why is fixing that not made an absolute priority? That too, on an emergency basis. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Forget Madrid and the other top clubs in terms of overall yearly revenue. Us being in the top 4/5 of that list is pretty much like a person making a $100,000 a year and still ending up in red. Continually. That's bad management, plain and simple. I don't like anything that's got to do with Juventus (save for Buffon, that is), but boy, do they know how to manage a club.

As for Italy's economy, well, you just have to invest where you have to, spend money where it must be spent. Otherwise, you run the risk of not existing at all as a company. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's like someone stopping eating food, just because of a fractured leg. And no one would want that, now, would it. You have to eat to survive. Bad economy or otherwise. Sure, don't go crazy splashing cash, but just enough spending for us to improve as a club.

As some previously thought. Mind games from the management

so we are going to keep Silva and saying he is our best buy.what a familiar story (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by vahid: Jun 14 2012, 01:06 PM

so silva agent has hinted that if he stays with Milan then we will need to discuss a new deal for him surprise surprise...

This post has been edited by CrazyMilanFan: Jun 14 2012, 01:18 PM

So, now we are unhappy because Silva is staying? For crying out loud! We wouldn't have signed anyone even if we'd sold him. Maximum some Dedé to replace him and that's about it. Better stay this way and with Silva than without him.

Agreed. I'm not responding to anything else he says. Can see why R&B had a problem with him.

What a fucking shambles. Scare the supporters by entering into negotiations, then decide not to pursue them and pretend it's a 'gift for the fans'.

Exactly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)