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Jun 12 2022, 05:10 PM
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I feel like our transfer market atm is at a standstill.
Nothing will happen until management renews and they have a clear idea on what the budget will be
Re Botman, NUFC are offering 55m for him. I think that's curtains for us on that front. Once again. Bremer is there. I know you prefer Botman x-off, but unless the player pushes an only Milan agenda, that's not going to happen. And I really don't want us to sour our business relationship with them either. We still have the Sanches deal to conlude. plus any business we want to do with them in the future.
55m for him is a great opportunity for them.
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Jun 12 2022, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 12 2022, 05:10 PM) I feel like our transfer market atm is at a standstill.
Nothing will happen until management renews and they have a clear idea on what the budget will be I've been reading a lot of these comments lately. I think you guys need to realise that it's only the 12th of June today. No team has made any official moves yet. Actually, we're the ones most far ahead in terms of clear ideas and player negotiations. Origi and Sanches are 100% done deals. Botman, Bremer, De Ketelaere and Lang are clear targets. They just need time, so be patient. The budget has already been fixed months in advance. It's not like clubs decide on a whim how much they want to spend for the summer campaign. It doesn't work like that. QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 12 2022, 05:10 PM) Re Botman, NUFC are offering 55m for him. I think that's curtains for us on that front. Once again. Bremer is there. I know you prefer Botman x-off, but unless the player pushes an only Milan agenda, that's not going to happen. And I really don't want us to sour our business relationship with them either. We still have the Sanches deal to conlude. plus any business we want to do with them in the future.
55m for him is a great opportunity for them. I don't believe the 55m figure. The most reliable figure I've read is 40m, whereas we're offering 30m. The only solution at this point is if we increased the offer to 35m with bonuses and the player pushed for the move. But I think it's very unlikely to happen at this point, so I'm starting to give up on Botman. As for Bremer, he has an agreement with Inter. Again it boils down to whether we can offer more money to Torino than Inter. But today Tuttosport reports of a serious interest of Tottenham for Bremer. So that alternative could fall apart as well. Corriere linked us with Pablo Mar? today for the CB position.
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Jun 14 2022, 11:56 AM
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Botman pushing for a Milan move, Newcastle getting impatient and want an answer by the end of the week.
Interesting fact that, according to Mediaset, Newcastle's offer is nowhere near the 50m previously reported, but actually at 30m pound.
On the other hand Lille are not happy with our offer, which I presume should be around 25m max.
I mean, come on! Ryan Gravenberch, one of the most talented and promising youngsters of last season was signed by Bayern from Ajax for 25m. Lille really need to get back to reality. Botman is not Nesta.
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Jun 14 2022, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2022, 05:44 PM) I've been reading a lot of these comments lately. I think you guys need to realise that it's only the 12th of June today. No team has made any official moves yet. Actually, we're the ones most far ahead in terms of clear ideas and player negotiations.
Origi and Sanches are 100% done deals. Botman, Bremer, De Ketelaere and Lang are clear targets. They just need time, so be patient. The budget has already been fixed months in advance. It's not like clubs decide on a whim how much they want to spend for the summer campaign. It doesn't work like that. Inter look to be ahead of everyone atm in terms of deals. Dybala practically done, same for Bellanova, advanced negotiations for Asllani and they have an agreement with Bremer. So they're going to move quickly. Obviously this could all be offset by making 2 big sales later on. But we'll have to see. My issue with waiting around is that you waste pre-season. I know it's only June, but the pre-season starts in July as far as I know, so I really do hope we start to see some official announcements soon As for the budget. If the ownership change didn't happen, I think Sanches would have been concluded as quickly as Maignan was last season for example. But the takeover did change things. The budget under Elliot could have been a certain number but it could be higher or lower now. We don't really know what's happening. Of course these things are planned ahead, but these are special circumstances that we're going through QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 12 2022, 05:44 PM) I don't believe the 55m figure. The most reliable figure I've read is 40m, whereas we're offering 30m. The only solution at this point is if we increased the offer to 35m with bonuses and the player pushed for the move. But I think it's very unlikely to happen at this point, so I'm starting to give up on Botman.
As for Bremer, he has an agreement with Inter. Again it boils down to whether we can offer more money to Torino than Inter. But today Tuttosport reports of a serious interest of Tottenham for Bremer. So that alternative could fall apart as well.
Corriere linked us with Pablo Mar? today for the CB position. Regarding the CB position. Kalulu and Tomori were the best CB duo in the league last season when they started playing together. This really isn't a do or die situation for us. So if Botman or Bremer come, I'd be excited about it, but if we just gave Romagnoli the 3m salary he wants I'd be fine with that as well. Either that or bring in someone young and promising. This is an area where I fully trust Paolo et al in whatever they choose to do. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 13 2022, 07:53 PM) Looks like both Botman and Bremen will not be destined for Serie A this summer.
Milan should keep faith in Kalulu and Kajaer ? sign a decent back up for the pair, and focus the funds on other aspects of the pitch. We'll see. Botman seems to be set on coming to Milan. I doubt he wants to make take a step back at this point. Newcastle are no where near breaking into the top 4 right now. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 11:56 AM) Botman pushing for a Milan move, Newcastle getting impatient and want an answer by the end of the week.
Interesting fact that, according to Mediaset, Newcastle's offer is nowhere near the 50m previously reported, but actually at 30m pound.
On the other hand Lille are not happy with our offer, which I presume should be around 25m max.
I mean, come on! Ryan Gravenberch, one of the most talented and promising youngsters of last season was signed by Bayern from Ajax for 25m. Lille really need to get back to reality. Botman is not Nesta. 30m is fair. We shouldn't go above that as we have more pressing positions to address QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 01:19 PM) Florenzi's redemption has been finalised at 2.7m against the initial 4.5m agreed upon. Messias is also close to being permanently signed for 4m. Good move for Florenzi I really do not see the point of keeping Messias unless we're going to flip him onto Monza or some other mid-table side. That left wing is seriously crowded with sub-par players atm. I'd only keep Alexis of the bunch because he's a multi-purpose player that is still very young.
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Jun 14 2022, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2022, 07:45 PM) Inter look to be ahead of everyone atm in terms of deals. Dybala practically done, same for Bellanova, advanced negotiations for Asllani and they have an agreement with Bremer. So they're going to move quickly. Obviously this could all be offset by making 2 big sales later on. But we'll have to see. My issue with waiting around is that you waste pre-season. I know it's only June, but the pre-season starts in July as far as I know, so I really do hope we start to see some official announcements soon Only Dybala has been defined. The others are being negotiated. We already have Origi and Sanches coming in 100%. And don't forget Inter have to sell 1-2 of their top players. QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2022, 07:45 PM) As for the budget. If the ownership change didn't happen, I think Sanches would have been concluded as quickly as Maignan was last season for example. But the takeover did change things. The budget under Elliot could have been a certain number but it could be higher or lower now. We don't really know what's happening. Of course these things are planned ahead, but these are special circumstances that we're going through Actually, it isn't much the ownership change but rather the internal problems within Lille that's delaying Sanches' signing. As you may or may not know, a faction within the club wants to pospone any sales post-June so they fall onto the next financial year, whereas another faction wants to cash in right now. The ownership's decision is expected shortly. Either way, Sanches is expected to have his medical with us next week last I read. QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2022, 07:45 PM) Regarding the CB position. Kalulu and Tomori were the best CB duo in the league last season when they started playing together. This really isn't a do or die situation for us. So if Botman or Bremer come, I'd be excited about it, but if we just gave Romagnoli the 3m salary he wants I'd be fine with that as well. Either that or bring in someone young and promising. This is an area where I fully trust Paolo et al in whatever they choose to do. Again with this Romagnoli talk. Guys, he doesn't want to stay. He wants to be a starter in a club where he feels important and make it into the NT. It's not an issue of money, it never was. But here he'd be 3rd choice, even 4th if Kjaer gets back in good shape. QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2022, 07:45 PM) That left wing is seriously crowded with sub-par players atm. I'd only keep Alexis of the bunch because he's a multi-purpose player that is still very young. I think the club wants to monetise from Alexis. He has good mercato abroad and we could get some 12-15 mil from him like with Hauge. I'd be fine with Messias as sub if we get a top winger.
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Jun 15 2022, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 08:04 PM) Only Dybala has been defined. The others are being negotiated. We already have Origi and Sanches coming in 100%. And don't forget Inter have to sell 1-2 of their top players. The rest are pretty much done as well (Bremer aside). Now there's talk of Lukaku coming back on some rediculous loan which I don't know how it's possible that Chelsea are going to go along with. Ridiculous numbers like 10m for the loan. After they paid nearly a 100m for him. Makes absolutely no sense why they would give Inter this kind of hand-out If they get Lukaku, Dybala and keep Lautaro, that's worrying. And how the f@ck can they do all this business with all these players earning over 6m per year in salaries when they're broke?? Chinese sponsorships keep dropping like flies atm for them, Suning can't inject capital into the club, yet they can throw around these kinds of salaries... Origi and Sanches are both great additions, don't get me wrong. But Inter could be making 2 marquee signings in the attack. Our weakest are is the attack yet I can't see us making signings of that caliber on the LW or in the AM position QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 08:04 PM) Actually, it isn't much the ownership change but rather the internal problems within Lille that's delaying Sanches' signing. As you may or may not know, a faction within the club wants to pospone any sales post-June so they fall onto the next financial year, whereas another faction wants to cash in right now. The ownership's decision is expected shortly. Either way, Sanches is expected to have his medical with us next week last I read. Yeah, I know about the issues with Lille, but the ownership change I think has also put things a bit on ice for us. Otherwise, simple deals like the Florenzi one would have been sorted earlier. At least that's what I think QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 08:04 PM) Again with this Romagnoli talk. Guys, he doesn't want to stay. He wants to be a starter in a club where he feels important and make it into the NT. It's not an issue of money, it never was. But here he'd be 3rd choice, even 4th if Kjaer gets back in good shape. Romagnoli is just the simplest solution. Not getting Botman now would be disappointing, and it would leave us a man short at CB. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 08:04 PM) I think the club wants to monetise from Alexis. He has good mercato abroad and we could get some 12-15 mil from him like with Hauge. I'd be fine with Messias as sub if we get a top winger. We'll see. Still makes no sense to me that Messias is going to cost us around 7m total when he's already 31 years old and had a sub-par season with us. Even as just a back up. For me it makes more sense to keep Alexis. Whatever happens, 2 players from that position need to be moved on. Samu and one of them have to go. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2022, 08:13 PM) Fresh update. Apparently I had not understood it correctly. It wasn't much a decision of Lille's ownership but rather that of the Direction Nationale du Controle de Gestion which monitors the accounts of French clubs. They had frozen Lille's possibility of buying and selling players due to their financial problems, but just a few minutes ago they accepted Lille's proposed contingency plans, so Sanches and Botman now can be freely sold on the market. Let's see. We've been reading about "decisive steps" for Sanches for a month now
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Jun 16 2022, 06:22 PM
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Apparently Lille have blocked Botman's movement towards us unless we match Newcastle's offer. They're offering 30m pound plus bonuses which translates to roughly 40m euro. We're offering instead approx 30m bonuses included. So there's a 10m difference.
I mean, at this point I really don't know what's gonna happen. Botman's will is the most important factor, cos he's the asset being treated, but Lille on the other hand are in severe financial difficulties and for them 10m extra could make a world of difference. So, I sort of can understand their iron hand in the matter.
In other news, both Lukaku and Dybala to Inter seems very close to happening. Dumfries should go to Chelsea, and PSG are about to offer 70m for Skrinar. But they can use part of that money to sign Bremer.
If we don't strengthen the team properly this summer Inter are going to walk the league. I mean, a Lukaku-Dybala-Lautaro attack is unparalleled.
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Jun 16 2022, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 16 2022, 06:22 PM) Apparently Lille have blocked Botman's movement towards us unless we match Newcastle's offer. They're offering 30m pound plus bonuses which translates to roughly 40m euro. We're offering instead approx 30m bonuses included. So there's a 10m difference.
I mean, at this point I really don't know what's gonna happen. Botman's will is the most important factor, cos he's the asset being treated, but Lille on the other hand are in severe financial difficulties and for them 10m extra could make a world of difference. So, I sort of can understand their iron hand in the matter.
In other news, both Lukaku and Dybala to Inter seems very close to happening. Dumfries should go to Chelsea, and PSG are about to offer 70m for Skrinar. But they can use part of that money to sign Bremer.
If we don't strengthen the team properly this summer Inter are going to walk the league. I mean, a Lukaku-Dybala-Lautaro attack is unparalleled. Yeah, they're going to be stacked upfront. Don't know how they can manage all those big salaries though. Lukaku for me is the difference maker. Lautaro is always up and down and Dybala has the body of a 12 year old girl. If Lukaku returns back in his pre-move shape, then it's going to be even more difficuilt than it was already this season to keep pace with them, let alone beat them to the title again The fact that the management contract extensions have not been announces yet and we're now past mid-June is also worrying...
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