[Warchant]

AC Milan star Kaka has insisted he does not want to leave the San Siro, as reports suggest he is set to follow Carlo Ancelotti to Chelsea.

Speculation has suggested that informal talks over a £70million deal have already started as the Blues look to tempt the Brazilian to the Premier League, while returning Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is also a long-term admirer.

Ancelotti's appointment as manager at Stamford Bridge was confirmed on Monday and the Italian is set to begin a three-year contract at the beginning of July with the aim of securing the UEFA Champions League.

It is rumoured that Kaka is top of the 49-year-old's wanted list as he plans tweaks to his inherited, ageing squad, with Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich understood to be prepared to spend big this summer.

But Kaka, who broke into the Milan side under former boss Ancelotti, insists he is staying in Italy, telling Gazzetta dello Sport: "I say it for the last time. I don't want to leave Milan."

The playmaker appeared to be on the verge of a world-record switch to Manchester City in the winter transfer window before the deal collapsed as Milan opted out of selling.

Kaka's potential move to Eastlands was shrouded in controversy as it was suggested the player was being forced out of Italy against his wishes.

The 27-year-old has now stated that he will make no further comment about his future so that there is no confusion over his desire to stay at Milan.

"In this period I prefer to remain silent because I don't want to be misunderstood," he added. "To the millions of Milan supporters, I say that I have made my choice. I want to stay."

Kaka admits that he is in a debt of gratitude to Ancelotti after he was offered the opportunity to shine.

"I owe him a lot. He opened the doors for me in Italian football," he concluded.

[Warchant]

at some point this has got to stop.

[Zed.D]

Only when he leaves this will stop, unfortunately.

[Tennie]

Nah. It'll continue. It'll then become 'Kaka wants to return to Milan' or 'Kaka wants MU' or......

[Zed.D]

Agreed.

As much as I like him, he better not think about returning once he left Milan.

PAOLO MALDINI: 'I think that Kaka will remain at Milan'

6/2/2009

MILAN - These are the declarations of Paolo Maldini, present today in Florence for a football tournament, where he received an award for his career and where his 13-year-old son Christian played and won the final against Fiorentina: "It's not easy to know what Kaka will do. I think that he will remain at Milan, but if Ancelotti was cryptic about his future, Kaka is even more."(ANSA)

[Tennie]

For what it's worth - which may not be much - the Spanish press is reporting that Galliani and Kaka's father have flown to Madrid today for talks with Florentino Perez.

[Zed.D]

For what it's worth - which may not be much - the Spanish press is reporting that Galliani and Kaka's father have flown to Madrid today for talks with Florentino Perez.

Does 'the Spanish press' mean AS or Marca? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Tennie]

Yup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) AS.

[han2503]

Yup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) AS.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Glad to see you back Tennie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tennie]

Fishdoll says hihihihi to the penguins and hopes they've been keeping everyone in line!

Also to follow up on the 'summit meeting' story, Galliani was contacted by Gazzetta --- he's at the beach in Romania so...well, not even a good lie this time by AS.

[Minami]

the newspapers should really stop to write such stuff....I'm really getting nervous although there is most likely no reason for that.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nervoussmiley.gif)

[Rivaldo]

For what it's worth - which may not be much - the Spanish press is reporting that Galliani and Kaka's father have flown to Madrid today for talks with Florentino Perez.

Perez offers 50 mln. + Robben + Snejder (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Does 'the Spanish press' mean AS or Marca? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

+ Radio Codena Ser

P.S. I hate Galliani.....he is actually in Madrid to congratulate Perez with victory....

Just hate....

What for he lied??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[Tennie]

Well, there's no real proof he's anywhere near spain at this point. I don't think that what AS reports is at all reliable. Galliani has said to Gazzetta that he's in Romania, but yet again he could also be fibbing. Right now, there's no real need to be upset with anyone. Let's just wait and see what happens in the next couple of days, shall we?

EDIT: Okay, so we know Galliani IS in fact in Madrid, this time from a reliable source:

(from the ticker on acmilan.com's italian page)

PRESIDENZA REAL MADRID: ADRIANO GALLIANI PRIMO INVITATO
02/06/2009
MILANO - L'Amministratore Delegato rossonero, Adriano Galliani, con piacere si trova nella città di Madrid solo ed esclusivamente in quanto primo invitato alla cena per l'investitura di Florentino Perez, nuovo Presidente del Real Madrid.

[Administrative delegate Adriano Galliani with pleasure finds himself in Madrid only and exclusively as the first person invited to dinner for the investiture of Florentino Perez, new president of Real Madrid.]

Not sure if it comes across exactly in translation but the sense I get from the original is that they're trying to make clear that he's ONLY there to have dinner.

This post has been edited by Tennie: Jun 2 2009, 07:38 PM

[Zed.D]

I can't see any reason why Galliani is with Perez other than discussing the Kaka issue.

As sad as I'm sounding now, 50m+Sneijder+Robben is more than worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) but it's probably BS?

Kaka Spokesman Confirms Real Madrid Offer

Diogo Kotscho has revealed that Real Madrid have tabled a bid...

Spokesman for Milan star Kaka, Diogo Kotscho, has confirmed that Real Madrid have tabled an offer for the Brazilian star.

Speculation has been building up all day about a possible transfer after it was reported that Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani was in Madrid with Kaka’s father-and-agent Bosco Leite.

Kotscho has now revealed that Real Madrid have made a bid for Kaka.

"The offer of Real is significant, but lower than that made by Manchester City, who offered more than €100m," he stated.

“However, there is no agreement yet.”

Meanwhile, it has also been confirmed by Ansa that Galliani is indeed in Madrid as a guest of Real Madrid president Florentino Perez at his election party.

The size of Madrid’s offer is a source of speculation, but Tuttosport are claiming that the Blancos have offered around €50m, plus Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder.

[dst]

I can't see why Galliani should not be there or that he can't be for any other reason. Everything's pretty normal in my opinion. Guys, relax! if they wanna make a transfer they can do it before we learn a thing about it, Galliani being there means nothing at all.

[Tennie]

Kotschko is not reliable, guys. he was behind the real rumors last year and the year before that.

Fishdoll's calling BS on this for now, unless something from a believable source turns up.

[HasanHasanly]

I am sick of this. Let him go bring in 50m + Robben + Sneijder.

If he wants to stay so much why does he not come out and say: "I WILL NEVER MOVE TO REAL MADRID, AND AM ASKING THEM TO STOP THEIR OFFERS". As soon as both the club and Kaka confirm their stance on this, all these talks will end.

[Zed.D]

If he wants to stay so much why does he not come out and say: "I WILL NEVER MOVE TO REAL MADRID, AND AM ASKING THEM TO STOP THEIR OFFERS". As soon as both the club and Kaka confirm their stance on this, all these talks will end.

He's said that about 200 times!

[Zed.D]

Breaking News: Difficult To Resist Kaka Offer - Silvio Berlusconi
--
20:38 BERLUSCONI: "DIFFICILE TRATTENERLO"
"Non so se potremo trattenere al Milan Kakà perché gli offrono talmente tanti soldi...". Silvio Berlusconi, da Prato, torna sulla possibile vendita dell'asso brasiliano al Real Madrid con un suo sostenitore, che al margine di un comizio elettorale gli chiede del futuro dell'attaccante milanista. D'altronde, ha aggiunto Berlusconi, non si può trattenere qualcuno contro la sua volontà. Nel ragionamento con il sostenitore, Berlusconi ha fatto capire che il Milan non intende rilanciare ad una simile offerta. Poi, con i cronisti è stato più cauto: ''Kakà? Non so, non ho ancora parlato di nulla nè con Leonardo nè con Galliani".

Here we go again...

I think we will sell Kaka this summer.

[GonzZo]

Idd, he says that just about everyday...

But 50M + Robben and Sneijder, sure does sound tempting, although I still hope it isn't true. Robben is a potential Balon d'Or winner, but he's more injured than Nesta, well almost. I guess if this was to happen, Leonardo would play a 4-3-3 for sure.

[Tennie]

Think maybe there's a mistranslation somewhere -- or you guys are getting different sources. what i've seen as the offer is 60 mln + either robben or snejder.

Both AS and Marca are saying it's a done deal but I doubt it at this point.

[Rivaldo]

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/C...er+vendere+Kakà

Now it's just one step for for going to Madrid....

RICKY.....you said this morning....you promised.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Zed.D]

Idd, he says that just about everyday...

But 50M + Robben and Sneijder, sure does sound tempting, although I still hope it isn't true. Robben is a potential Balon d'Or winner, but he's more injured than Nesta, well almost. I guess if this was to happen, Leonardo would play a 4-3-3 for sure.

Yeah Robben wouldn't last long in Serie A. he's so fragile it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I don't like it myself but I think we will (have to) sell Kaka. there's no getting away this time, the offer would be too good for Berlu/Galliani to refuse.

[Tennie]

Meh. It's Corriere, Rivaldo, which is based in Rome and...well, pretty good for stuff about Roma and Lazio and much less so for other clubs. And what they're reporting is no different than what tuttomercatoweb is, at least in this case. I still see no reason to be in any way upset other than possibly being annoyed at the immense stupidness of the Madrid press.

The Madrid press are now reporting, for what it's worth, that Chelsea has complicated things -- Ancelotti has, according to the story, asked for Kaka, and (also according to the story), Kaka's father has said that his son wants double the Milan wages from Chelsea.

So really...let's all take a happy pill until and unless something reliable comes up. This is just silly season starting early from what I can see.

[TriniKing_CE]

65Mil bid for Kaka!
Its everywhere.....
http://www.marca.com/index.html?a=ff0827aa...mp;t=1243970630
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicac...idseccio_PK=805
http://www.gazzetta.it/
http://www.skysports.com/football/

[Rivaldo]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

P.S. L'amore non ha prezzo....

[Zed.D]

65Mil bid for Kaka!
Its everywhere.....
http://www.marca.com/index.html?a=ff0827aa...mp;t=1243970630
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicac...idseccio_PK=805
http://www.gazzetta.it/
http://www.skysports.com/football/

If you're going to sell, at least force them to include one of their Dutch midfielders in the deal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 2 2009, 08:45 PM

[Bluesummers]

this is making no sense. Before he got on the plane, he flipped out and told everyone he is not leaving. Why is it now that they are reporting the deal is done?

[Tennie]

Because the Madrid papers are bored and need to boost sales, Blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

Because the Madrid papers are bored and need to boost sales, Blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That makes sense and all but why is every newspaper in europe reporting it as well.

[Tennie]

They're all sourcing it back to the Spanish press. And, well, it sells papers in places other than Madrid.

[Minami]

on mialnnews they say that chelsea have offered 80mill for kaka and stopped real madrid from signing him...

http://milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=7863

[Zed.D]

Chelsea vs Madrid. it'd be an interesting bidding war.

[Tennie]

Not exactly off topic but...when are the EU parliament elections?

[Bluesummers]

Money is good but we can't just sell him if were going to sell him. We have to get players out of this. Either dutch players from madrid or maybe essien and co from chelsea.

[dst]

Not exactly off topic but...when are the EU parliament elections?

This Sunday.

[Minami]

Not exactly off topic but...when are the EU parliament elections?

on sunday...why do you ask? do you think it has something with berlusconi and his need of money or something like that??

[Rivaldo]

Offers:

Real - 64.5 mln. to Milan + 9 to Kaka
Chelsea - 80 mln. to Milan + 12 to Kaka

Where is offers from Milan?? I Hope Kaka'll stay as he told this morning.

[han2503]

This is getting way beyond rediculous, the Spanish and English press joined in a bidding war against eachother, and at this point it's become who will come out with the most over the top story.

Kaka made himself pretty clear, Berlu likes to over dramatise things so now he'll say the offer is hard to resist at the end of the summer he'll swoop in with his cape and sward and say that he was the one that stopped everything because he loves Milan and Kaka, bla, bla...

Berlu has been using Milan as a political tool for years now, wake up people.

Next week Real will be going all out for Ronaldo, the one after that Fabregas, it's a never ending story get used to it

[Bluesummers]

This is getting way beyond rediculous, the Spanish and English press joined in a bidding war against eachother, and at this point it's become who will come out with the most over the top story.

Kaka made himself pretty clear, Berlu likes to over dramatise things so now he'll say the offer is hard to resist at the end of the summer he'll swoop in with his cape and sward and say that he was the one that stopped everything because he loves Milan and Kaka, bla, bla...

Berlu has been using Milan as a political tool for years now, wake up people.

Next week Real will be going all out for Ronaldo, the one after that Fabregas, it's a never ending story get used to it

I wouldn't be so sure this time man. Yes he did say hes staying but its way to early in the transfer market for negotiations liket his to take place if it weren't true. Galliani is in spain, its june 2, and berlu comes out and says he can't hold on to kaka.

This thing is not going to go on for 3 months, so i'm thinking there is seriousness in this.

[Bluesummers]

Real Madrid have agreed a €65m fee with AC Milan for Kaka, according to Cadena SER radio station.

The Brazilian has been linked with a move to the Spanish giants for years, but with former president Florentino Perez once again taking control this week, speculation has reached fever pitch.

Now, sources in Spain report that the conditions have been agreed, and Cadena SER asserts that the €65m price tag is agreed by all parties.

All that remains now are some personal matters to attend to with Kaka, who is set to earn €9m a year (€175,000 a week) for the next five seasons.

The 27-year-old is on international duty as Brazil prepare to take on Uruguay this weekend, meaning that he cannot be present to physically sign a deal in Madrid for now.

[dst]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) what's going on? Everyone is trying to be the first to report the deal...

It would be huge if Real manage to snatch both Kaka and CR!

[Bluesummers]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) what's going on? Everyone is trying to be the first to report the deal...

It would be huge if Real manage to snatch both Kaka and CR!

It would not be huge at all. We lose our best player and so do united to those c****

[Tennie]

Han, I'm wondering if this IS a Berlusconi trick this time. He's taken a beating in the Italian press over the whole incident with the 18 year old. Needs to save face a little.

(In other words, neither Fishdoll nor I have seen anything to believe in these insane transfer rumors -- yet. not excluding the possibility, just stating that it's all speculation and the only hard fact we have is that Galliani had dinner with Perez. That's it.)

[han2503]

I wouldn't be so sure this time man. Yes he did say hes staying but its way to early in the transfer market for negotiations liket his to take place if it weren't true. Galliani is in spain, its june 2, and berlu comes out and says he can't hold on to kaka.

This thing is not going to go on for 3 months, so i'm thinking there is seriousness in this.

I didn't mean that this will go on all summer, what I meant when I said at the end of the summer was really to over emphasise things. What I meant is that when everything seems to be a done deal he'll swoop in and save the day, just like he did with Man City. Man City pretty much admitted that Milan played them and had no intention to sell Kaka in the first place.

You know, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but whatever I'm just going to say it. Kaka has really declined in these last 2 seasons, injuries and form have really done him in, he's lost about 65% of his pace, he's not as lethal anymore. I think that if we are ever going to sell him it should be now, because if we wait another year his price will drop to about half if he has another bad season.

He's 27 going to turn 28 he cannot be concidered a youngster anymore no matter what we all like to think. Milan really have to think about the future. And if selling Kaka will make for a better future for Milan then I say we should go for it. If he was the same Kaka as he was 2 years ago before the injuries I say no way. But atm I don't think it;s feasable to keep him.

If we can skin Chelsea or Mardid with a massive selling price I say go for it, get as much money as we can from either team plus a player (Chelsea-Essien, Madrid-Sneijder). And use the cash to get a WC CB and striker.

[dst]

It would not be huge at all. We lose our best player and so do united to those c****

You are right, it's not huge at all, just Milan's and Utd's best players, the last two Ballon d'Or winners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

At this moment, I feel relaxed. I believe in nothing until it's made official. I suggest you do the same or you'll end up crazy!

[han2503]

Han, I'm wondering if this IS a Berlusconi trick this time. He's taken a beating in the Italian press over the whole incident with the 18 year old. Needs to save face a little.

That's all I'm saying.

Until I see the official ticker on the official site and Kaka confirm it I won't believe anything. No use in panicking especially after that whole Man City BS Berlu pulled on us in the winter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

[Bluesummers]

I didn't mean that this will go on all summer, what I meant when I said at the end of the summer was really to over emphasise things. What I meant is that when everything seems to be a done deal he'll swoop in and save the day, just like he did with Man City. Man City pretty much admitted that Milan played them and had no intention to sell Kaka in the first place.

You know, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but whatever I'm just going to say it. Kaka has really declined in these last 2 seasons, injuries and form have really done him in, he's lost about 65% of his pace, he's not as lethal anymore. I think that if we are ever going to sell him it should be now, because if we wait another year his price will drop to about half if he has another bad season.

He's 27 going to turn 28 he cannot be concidered a youngster anymore no matter what we all like to think. Milan really have to think about the future. And if selling Kaka will make for a better future for Milan then I say we should go for it. If he was the same Kaka as he was 2 years ago before the injuries I say no way. But atm I don't think it;s feasable to keep him.

If we can skin Chelsea or Mardid with a massive selling price I say go for it, get as much money as we can from either team plus a player (Chelsea-Essien, Madrid-Sneijder). And use the cash to get a WC CB and striker.

I agree with you completely. The only problem with him is that he is not just a milan player and if we do sell him it will be like selling maldini at 28. Yes it will be benefitical for the future but if Kaka comes out and says he was forced to make the deal or he didn't want to and he did it for milan, I doubt Silvio and Galliani will survive the night.


I just dont understand this, Milan are not a selling club. No matter how much our players are declining, we shouldn't have to sell them to balance the books. If silvio can't afford to invest as much as morratti, then why keep the club? I just dont understand it.

[Tennie]

There's no proof Milan are selling anything, blue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

Han, I'm wondering if this IS a Berlusconi trick this time. He's taken a beating in the Italian press over the whole incident with the 18 year old. Needs to save face a little.

He's actually pretty safe. All the latest gallup-polls show this story has cost him nothing. The European parliament deputies have no power anyway, Berlusconi knows more than anyone that it is all a joke.

[GonzZo]

Apparently Lavezzi's agent is in Madrid aswell.

[han2503]

I agree with you completely. The only problem with him is that he is not just a milan player and if we do sell him it will be like selling maldini at 28. Yes it will be benefitical for the future but if Kaka comes out and says he was forced to make the deal or he didn't want to and he did it for milan, I doubt Silvio and Galliani will survive the night.


I just dont understand this, Milan are not a selling club. No matter how much our players are declining, we shouldn't have to sell them to balance the books. If silvio can't afford to invest as much as morratti, then why keep the club? I just dont understand it.

I agree with you that Milan are not a selling club, I don't like the fact that Serie A could be losing 2 of it's best players this summer (Ibra, Kaka) it's really not good for the league in general.

But with that money generated from the sales a domino effect will happen, everyone though it was crazy of Juve to sell Zidane in his prime but at the end of the day they came out better for it, and selling Zidane while he was still at his best not like Kaka's situation where he's really become limited these past few seasons.

And last time I checked Milan along with Bayern are the only club that run on 0 debth. So the money generated from the Kaka deal will not go into balancing the book but into getting those 2 players I mentioned before.

And I don't think the fans will really come at the management if a deal that is beneficial to Milan happens .ie getting serious cash for him plus one of the buying team's best players

[Tennie]

Nicely stated, han.

+1 cookie to the penguins.

[CrazyMilanFan]

that spokesman of kaka Diogo Kotschko said that deal is done and only official announcement is left it is on mediaset

[dst]

Not Lavezzi, we have Pato and plus with Kaka most probably leaving, we will need a creator

[quoted from the transfer window thread]

I don't see why we have come to this conclusion. In my humble opinion, what's going on is that Galliani is in Madrid and Real have actually made the reported offer but did anyone expect them not to? It's silly to think that we have agreed so quickly anyway, if we're going to sell him we would negotiate at least for the sake of it, we would not just hand him over to the first offer.

On the other hand, Galliani did lie about his whereabouts and Kaka seemed frustrated when asked about his future this morning so... I don't know.

How much cleaner have I made things!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Let's just wait and see people. Do NOT believe what's coming from Spain though.

[han2503]

Nicely stated, han.

+1 cookie to the penguins.

<Panguins jump for joy>

But in all seriousness, Kaka really has done nothing these last 2 seasons that merit that price tag and it does not seem like he's ever going to be what he was before. I say sieze the opportunity now that its here, while its here, there won't be Chelsea and Real at the door next season with that ammount of money.

Sentimentality tells me to shut up that Kaka is a Milan player and should stay that way, I'm a big fan and I really love him for what he's done, but I love the club more and at the time being keeping him will do more harm then good. And regarding sentimentality and this club, that went out the window the moment Maldini was booed and the club took no action, so the moment Galliani starts talking about family and sentimental values I will more then laugh because its an absolute insult to both the players and the fans who actually care about these things.

Anothr thing, we desperately need money to rebuild the team, and we can say what we want about Silvio but the ammount of money we need in order to rebuild is rediculous, and something that Silvio just cannot come up with on his own anymore. We need a big cash income this summer and the easy way to get that is by selling Kaka, Top class CB, top class midfielder and a top class striker and a must for next season if we're actually going to try to do something worth while in the league and the CL

[han2503]

that spokesman of kaka Diogo Kotschko said that deal is done and only official announcement is left it is on mediaset

This guy has been saying that the deal is done for 3 years now, I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

I'll only believe this once it's officially announced

[Rivaldo]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Zed.D]

I agree with han too. it'd make me unbelievably sad to see Kaka go, but we could really benefit from the deal. after all, the club comes first not individuals. my only concern is that in case we sell Kaka, will the money be entirely used to rebuild the team?... that I doubt to be honest.

[han2503]

I agree with han too. it'd make me unbelievably sad to see Kaka go, but we could really benefit from the deal. after all, the club comes first not individuals. my only concern is that in case we sell Kaka, will the money be entirely used to rebuild the team?... that I doubt to be honest.

That is something that is plagueing the back of my mind. But we can't really expect them to sell that big of a player and leave the team as it is? The hole will be too huge.

With that said I'm still worried because this is exactly what they did after selling Sheva so I'm not so sure.

[CrazyMilanFan]

first thing should be that if we sell kaka we get some player in exchange aswell VDW, snidjer or robben atlest one of them (first 2 should be prefered) and then with the money we get from kaka sale and yoan gourcuff sale we but a top stiker and defender

[Zed.D]

That is something that is plagueing the back of my mind. But we can't really expect them to sell that big of a player and leave the team as it is? The hole will be too huge.

With that said I'm still worried because this is exactly what they did after selling Sheva so I'm not so sure.

That's why I said that!

We will definitely buy players but will we spend the entire money (plus Yoann's sale money)?! you know how many decent players could be bought? I would think at least 5.

snidjer

Come on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I always found his name very difficult to spell, but spelling it like this.. that's hilarious!

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 2 2009, 09:55 PM

[Bluesummers]

If the kaka deal goes through, we have 80 million in the bank. Whether or not all of that will be used for the transfers remains to be seen. We better also get a madrid player out of this deal.


We could potentially have a 150 million transfer fund. 40 million from CL, and 30 from silvio.

[CrazyMilanFan]

That's why I said that!

We will definitely buy players but will we spend the entire money (plus Yoann's sale money)?! you know how many decent players could be bought? I would think at least 5.



Come on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I always found his name very difficult to spell, but spelling it like this.. that's hilarious!

i got this after tryign to spell it for quite long was very furustrated and just typed what came to my head (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

If the kaka deal goes through, we have 80 million in the bank. Whether or not all of that will be used for the transfers remains to be seen. We better also get a madrid player out of this deal.


We could potentially have a 150 million transfer fund. 40 million from CL, and 30 from silvio.

Throwing around money is easy, but you know all that caech will not go to transafers, there's wages to be payed, bills to be payed. It's not like paying FM and every cent you earn goes to the transfer kitty.

Selling Kaka will also remove a huge wage wieght off our shoulders.

[Bluesummers]

Throwing around money is easy, but you know all that caech will not go to transafers, there's wages to be payed, bills to be payed. It's not like paying FM and every cent you earn goes to the transfer kitty.

Selling Kaka will also remove a huge wage wieght off our shoulders.

No i agree but it should go to the transfer kitty. We need to rebuild.


If kaka goes, that wipes out 175k a week ,sheva goes that wipes out 75k a week. That is enough for 5-6 players.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jun 2 2009, 10:08 PM

[Minami]

i am going to sleep now, because nothing will be made official even if there was something to announce....

i just hope that kaka will stay for some time because he really wants to stay at milan..!

i understand everything you said about the money aspect and so on, but he is still an important player for milan although he has been injured this season.
next season he could even be better than this one. you'll never know how he'll play then. it's not said that he won't be good again just because he wasn't good this season/in the last games...

[Rivaldo]

Paolo, Carlo, Ricky the same year....it's cruel....

[Bluesummers]

Paolo, Carlo, Ricky the same year....it's cruel....

Paolo, carlo, yoann, ricky.


I have a feeling the list will continue.

[han2503]

No i agree but it should go to the transfer kitty. We need to rebuild.


If kaka goes, that wipes out 175k a week ,sheva goes that wipes out 75k a week. That is enough for 5-6 players.

Agreed on that. But it's not always that simple.

Regarding wages, totally agree, also we need to start being shrewed with some players. (Miz don't hurt me) players like Dida who get big wages and are not starters because of their performances need to either accept pay cuts or go looking elsewhere.

Overly aged players like Favalli and Kalac imo should be let go.

Other players like Janku, Seedorf and Ambro need to be replaced by better players at this point. I'm not saying dump them to the curb (ok that was a lie, Seedorf should be dumped to the curb) but we really need to start realistically thinking of replacing these players

[Bluesummers]

Agreed on that. But it's not always that simple.

Regarding wages, totally agree, also we need to start being shrewed with some players. (Miz don't hurt me) players like Dida who get big wages and are not starters because of their performances need to either accept pay cuts or go looking elsewhere.

Overly aged players like Favalli and Kalac imo should be let go.

Other players like Janku, Seedorf and Ambro need to be replaced by better players at this point. I'm not saying dump them to the curb (ok that was a lie, Seedorf should be dumped to the curb) but we really need to start realistically thinking of replacing these players

agreed. I have no problems with them staying either but they need to earn what they deserve. Seedorf does not deserve 77k.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

you mean Seedorf doesn't deserve milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Bluesummers]

you mean Seedorf doesn't deserve milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No seedorf is a milan hero and legend. He is 33 almost so what do you expect. I would love him to stay here but stay as he deserves. 30k a week with the role of a bench player.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

No seedorf is a milan hero and legend. He is 33 almost so what do you expect. I would love him to stay here but stay as he deserves. 30k a week with the role of a bench player.

Carlo?

[Rivaldo]

Paolo, carlo, yoann, ricky.

I have a feeling the list will continue.

Nonsense....I said about 3 very important for Milan...Gourcuff only talanted young man, whose future may not be so great as most of supperts say.

[Bluesummers]

Carlo?

haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Bluesummers]

Nonsense....I said about 3 very important for Milan...Gourcuff only talanted young man, whose future may not be so great as most of supperts say.

Still he is a milan player and he could have been very useful for us.

[TriniKing_CE]

Agreed on that. But it's not always that simple.

Regarding wages, totally agree, also we need to start being shrewed with some players. (Miz don't hurt me) players like Dida who get big wages and are not starters because of their performances need to either accept pay cuts or go looking elsewhere.

Overly aged players like Favalli and Kalac imo should be let go.

Other players like Janku, Seedorf and Ambro need to be replaced by better players at this point. I'm not saying dump them to the curb (ok that was a lie, Seedorf should be dumped to the curb) but we really need to start realistically thinking of replacing these players

agreed. I have no problems with them staying either but they need to earn what they deserve. Seedorf does not deserve 77k.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Agreed! +1

[Rivaldo]

The latest RMD offer: 65 mln. + 2 players from this list - Sneijder e Robben, Gago, Guti, Drenthe, Pepe, Marcelo e M. Diarra.

[Tennie]

It's getting even sillier now.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Apparently italian press has confirmed it now

[Zed.D]

I don't know what to think. it looks serious...

[il_diavolo_mtl]

ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tennie]

Apparently italian press has confirmed it now

Who, specifically, in the Italian press? Can you provide a link?

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Kaka Agrees To Join Real Madrid - Italian Media
The Brazilian has said yes to Real Madrid, and the official announcement is expected soon...

AC Milan star Kaka has agreed to join Real Madrid, according to Sky Italia.

News of his impending transfer to the La Liga giants has been gaining momentum since this afternoon when it was rumoured Milan vice president Adriano Galliani and Kaka's father/agent were in the capital to negotiate a deal.

The Spanish media later reported that a deal had been agreed for €65 million between the two clubs.

The former Ballon d'Or winner is currently on international duty with Brazil, but has allegedly given his stamp of approval to the deal. All that is missing is an official announcement from the two clubs, which is likely to arrive very shortly.

The 27-year-old made 31 appearances in Serie A this season for the Rossoneri, finding the back of the net 16 times in the process.

how reliable is sky again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ?

[Bluesummers]

Great..........

[Bluesummers]

apparantly from the choice of players, its reported we want diarra and robben.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

i don't know the words to truly express how livid i am right now

[MizNelson]

apparantly from the choice of players, its reported we want diarra and robben.

Great, we (apparently) dump Kaka and want a cripple in Robben in return.

(Miz don't hurt me) players like Dida who get big wages and are not starters because of their performances

Don't worry, I won't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

*plucks out one of Han's chest hairs*

[I_Rossoneri]

Best get used to it I suppose. Pato next then?

[il_diavolo_mtl]

how good are Robben/diarra?

[Rossoneri7]

Well what a surprise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So let him go the Chelsea or Madrid .. Most people claimed he should have been benched at most parts of the season, well who the hell would bench a player worth Eur 80MM !? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Just sell him and get it over with.

[Bluesummers]

Well what a surprise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So let him go the Chelsea or Madrid .. Most people claimed he should have been benched at most parts of the season, well who the hell would bench a player worth Eur 80MM !? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Just sell him and get it over with.

He is our icon R7. Its like selling maldini.

[MizNelson]

He is our icon R7. Its like selling maldini.

Sorry, but Kaka is nowhere near an icon as Maldini. If he hadn't peaked for 10 games in the '07 CL we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

This post has been edited by MizNelson: Jun 2 2009, 11:32 PM

[il_diavolo_mtl]

how good are Robben/ Diara?

[Bluesummers]

so let me break this transfer down for those who are a bit confused.

We will recieve 65 million euros and 2 players.

we will have the choice between sneijder or robben to pick.

Then we will have the choice of one of these players: Gago, Guti, Drenthe, Pepe, Marcelo or M. Diarra.

Kaka will recieve 12 million euros a year for 4 years.



Note: all based on rumors, no actual concrete evidence regarding any of this.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jun 2 2009, 11:33 PM

[MizNelson]

how good are Robben/ Diara?

It doesn't matter, because they're not coming anyway and people are making mountains out of molehills from every little rumor as usual.

[Zed.D]

Pato next then?

Bite your tongue!
--
3AM here. I'm off to bed. hope tomorrow we'll know how it's gonna end.

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This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jun 2 2009, 11:34 PM

[Bluesummers]

Sorry, but Kaka is nowhere near an icon as Maldini. If he hadn't peaked for 10 games in the '07 CL we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

after maldini, he is our club symbol. Whether or not you agree with that, it doesn't change the fact that it is true.

[Rivaldo]

00:15 KAKA': "OGGI NON PARLO"
"Oggi non parlo, non è il mio turno". Così Kakà dal raduno della Nazionale brasiliana. Poi il giocatore ha conversato a lungo con il suo portavoce Diogo Kotscho.

http://www.sportmediaset.it/mercato/artico...ml?refresh_cens

I try to translate...

Kaka: I'll not speak today. It's not mine time.
And then he speaked with his agent Diogo