[TriniKing_CE]

I've long been meaning to open a thread similar to this one, where random (yet related Milan) info can be posted in one place without being lost between threads.

I came across this pic, and realized I didn't know where to post this given our previous options.

And so... became the birth of this thread.

By all means if we have a similarly yet forgotten thread of the same nature, please direct me towards it, and close this one off. If not - You're welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Players with highest goal ratio during the Berlusconi era:

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[X-Offender]

They've misspelled Sheva's name. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

If only I was able to understand Italian (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) , this clip could have been so much more for me.


Despite that, it's still good:

AC Milan - Final Effort - HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pUIbZIX8uY&hd=1

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[X-Offender]

If only I was able to understand Italian (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) , this clip could have been so much more for me.


Despite that, it's still good:

AC Milan - Final Effort - HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pUIbZIX8uY&hd=1

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

You don't need to know Italian, Trini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_iKg7nutNY&feature=fvst

It's the same audio, in English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

You don't need to know Italian, Trini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_iKg7nutNY&feature=fvst

It's the same audio, in English. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Awesome.

Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I knew it ran a bell; but to think I have never sat down yet to watch Any Given Sunday in entirety yet. (...just sad)

Especially while being a Pacino fan, and hearing countless other people talk bout 'the speech'.

Then again, I was never really one to place something in higher regard just because of the mass' opinion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunnosmiley.gif)

Either way, I think this is one I really should have seen by now.

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Apr 14 2012, 03:49 AM

[Jack Bauer]

You should, a very good movie.

[X-Offender]

Looking at the rosters of the four CL semi-finalists, we notice that Barça have a roster of 22 players, Real of 23 players, Bayern of 24 and Chelsea of 25. We have a roster of 33 players, with an average wage of €2 million per player. If we reduced our roster to 25 players, we'd be saving about €30 million per season. The key element here is to change/improve the training methods, in order to have as few injuries as possible, which would make it unnecessary to have such a large roster.

Link

[X-Offender]

Top 10 most valuable football clubs in the world:

1. Manchester United - $2.235bn (£1.396bn)
2. Real Madrid - $1.877bn (£1.17bn)
3. Barcelona - $1.307bn (£816m)
4. Arsenal - $1.292bn (£807m)
5. Bayern Munich - $1.235bn (£770m)
6. AC Milan - $989m (£615m)
7. Chelsea - $761m (£473m)
8. Liverpool - $619m (£385m)
9. Juventus - $591m (£367m)
10. Schalke 04 - $587m (£365m)

[acid911]

Both very valid points, we're valuable for a reason, and frankly, I'd love a trim down in the squad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) But of course, the powers that be can do whatever they want. I mean B&G recently said that they invested around 1 billion Euros into Milan. No one had the guts to ask them that not all of it was their (or Berlusconi's) money.

You invest money to earn it, and then invest it back again. Sure football clubs can be a risky business, but still.

[kurtsimonw]

Top 10 most valuable football clubs in the world:

1. Manchester United - $2.235bn (£1.396bn)
2. Real Madrid - $1.877bn (£1.17bn)
3. Barcelona - $1.307bn (£816m)
4. Arsenal - $1.292bn (£807m)
5. Bayern Munich - $1.235bn (£770m)
6. AC Milan - $989m (£615m)
7. Chelsea - $761m (£473m)
8. Liverpool - $619m (£385m)
9. Juventus - $591m (£367m)
10. Schalke 04 - $587m (£365m)

You forgot Villa.

[han2503]

Looking at the rosters of the four CL semi-finalists, we notice that Barça have a roster of 22 players, Real of 23 players, Bayern of 24 and Chelsea of 25. We have a roster of 33 players, with an average wage of €2 million per player. If we reduced our roster to 25 players, we'd be saving about €30 million per season. The key element here is to change/improve the training methods, in order to have as few injuries as possible, which would make it unnecessary to have such a large roster.

Link

Just read on FI that all of Nesta, Ambro and Rino are most likely to get n extension. Aside from Nesta it's a completely idiot move. This is the reason why we'll never move forward at this rate, and why we'll require a huge roster, simply because these guys cannot even be considered back ups anymore. Just ridiculous. I mean what's the point of renewing with these 2? Especially Rino, he can't even be considered a player anymore, yet we're about to hand him a 2.5m a year deal.

[kurtsimonw]

I like Ambro and think he has performed very well a few times this season, but it's really time to move on.

[han2503]

I like Ambro and think he has performed very well a few times this season, but it's really time to move on.

I agree that he has stepped up this season. But still those moments are very few and far between. Playing good in a maximum of 4 games in an entire season does not mean he should be given an extension.

VB and Nesta should be the only ones to stay the others just have to be let go. No more stalling. We're most likeely going to give up the Scudetto to Juve this season, simply because we're still relying on these guys as back up

[Jack Sparrow]

The problem here is everyone assumes, letting go of the older players means someone is automatically gonna come in who is as good as these veterans on their best day.

I used to believe it, now I don't. So I'm pretty non-commital on these extensions.

[William405]

The problem here is everyone assumes, letting go of the older players means someone is automatically gonna come in who is as good as these veterans on their best day.

I used to believe it, now I don't. So I'm pretty non-commital on these extensions.

Do you mean on big games?Such as the CL vs Barca.Well,you are kind of correct,but I really doubt they can do it anymore.Seriously,most of them require a great deal of physical strength that they just can't handle anymore,in addition there wages are not so small.Like others,I would only keep Nesta and Van Bommel.Maybe Ambro,just maybe,but Gattuso and Seedorf can't cut it anymore.

[X-Offender]

The problem here is everyone assumes, letting go of the older players means someone is automatically gonna come in who is as good as these veterans on their best day.

I used to believe it, now I don't. So I'm pretty non-commital on these extensions.

I don't think it's necessary to replace them with players who are as good these guys were on their best day. They're not starting material anymore. Strasser for Ambrosini and Merkel for Seedorf, I'd take that in a heartbeat. And we already have our Gattuso replacements in Nocerino and Muntari. What we desperately need are a quality LB, a DM if van Bommel leaves, an AM, and Tevez. Those, along with the free-agent signings Galliani makes every year, like Montolivo, and we should be fine.

[X-Offender]

Milan players trying to speak Chinese. Very funny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUl1SqfopSo...player_embedded

[TriniKing_CE]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

At least no "Asian face" jokes.

[Zed.D]

Awesome. Van Bommel speaks very impressive Chinese!

[TriniKing_CE]

At least no "Asian face" jokes.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yes at least that...

Awesome. Van Bommel speaks very impressive Chinese!

Yup he made it look effortless compared to the rest.

[TriniKing_CE]

Milan taking it to the field.

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[TriniKing_CE]

(IMG:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/163348_10150838134052342_504602341_9614240_2134715628_n.jpg)

[TriniKing_CE]

Honor the legends at the San Siro - Nesta, Gatusso, Sedorf, Pippo, Zambrotta and Bommel:
(15 minutes of the game's aftermath & farewell celebrations.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkLTj7mWoxE




Maestr021Channel - GoodBye AC Milan Legends

(Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfccxyBCVPk&hd=1

(Part 2): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyhF4hDGOE&hd=1

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: May 14 2012, 02:49 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

Just figured out some stats:

- don't know when was the last time a Milan player scored 28 goals in one league season
- don't know when we last played more then 30 players in one season
- or when was the last time we had 18 different players score

[X-Offender]

Wow, I just checked, we have only like three over-30 players at the moment (Abbiati, Yepes, Ambrosini), assuming Seedorf will leave, and that Ibra and Bonera are still 30, so I'm not considering them. When was the last time we had this few? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

So now if we don't win those darned sky commentators won't say it's coz we are old.

[Fillipo Simone]

No, all shifts to Allegri now. I'm just waiting.

[X-Offender]

So now if we don't win those darned sky commentators won't say it's coz we are old.

Haha, exactly. Unless we bring a bunch of (talentless) overaged players this summer instead, like Natali, Rigoni etc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

No, all shifts to Allegri now. I'm just waiting.

I believe we have good elements in the locker room, Thiago Silva has really impressed on the field with his level headed mentality. We also know Ibra has a winning mentality which is positive influence. Abiati and Ambrosini are rich in experience. We are fine I guess, just sad to actually think about Milan without Gattuso, Seedorf, Nesta and Inzaghi ... Maldini's retirement is so much more hurtful now ... The final blow would be Galliani (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

The final blow would be Galliani (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The horror... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

He is 67 and has a very young wife. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He'll go another 8 years at least.

[X-Offender]

He is 67 and has a very young wife. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) He'll go another 8 years at least.

Somehow I thought he was 73 or something.

[X-Offender]

San Siro's restyling to be completed in 2015.

Link

Damn, I was hoping for 2013 or sooner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Do we have any schematic diagrams or anything? Just to know what to expect?

[TriniKing_CE]

I don't have rights to create new topics in the past players thread.

I was about to do one for Dejan Savićević.

Just came across this clip and I realized we never had a thread for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature&v=urNMQktz96I

[TriniKing_CE]

Seire A through the years - A brief history (1987 to present 2012):

http://www.freewebs.com/footballontap/italianfootball.htm

[Fillipo Simone]

Don't exactly get why language and length play a role? Can we somehow download those matches or what?

[X-Offender]

In four weeks San Siro's pitch will undergo some works in order to increase its quality. The new technology that will be used, which involves inserting into the pitch synthetic fibers of grass imune to ripping, is already in use at Wembley, Donetsk, and various stadiums for Brazil 2014.

Link

Hopefully next time Barça won't have to nag about the pitch conditions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Barca will always find something to complain about if they don't win.

[X-Offender]

(IMG:http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7448/c27photogallery6832list.jpg)

Oh god...

[Zed.D]

That's some of you guys in 40 years' time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

http://youtu.be/MdcaiIl3nb0

[X-Offender]

http://youtu.be/MdcaiIl3nb0

And that's how Strasser got injured.

[CHU-LIP]

And that's how Strasser got injured.

Seriously?

[X-Offender]

Seriously?

No man, I was kidding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

No man, I was kidding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

K, k. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I have heard weirder stuff with Milan players getting injured, so nothing will surprise me anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[X-Offender]

We'll play Palermo in a friendly on 12 August at Renzo Barbera, 20:45.

Link

[Fillipo Simone]

Hmh, fishy. Maybe we'll really sign Balzaretti then.

[Jack Bauer]

Hmh, fishy. Maybe we'll really sign Balzaretti then.

http://www.football-italia.net/22532/balza...ng-roma-medical

[William405]

Roma and Milan are in mourning after the sudden death of Scudetto-winning full-back Aldo Maldera.

The former Italian international had notched up 228 appearances for Milan before going to Roma from 1982-85 and finishing his career with Fiorentina in 1987.

Maldera won the Scudetto at Milan in 1979 and with Roma in 1983, plus two Coppa Italia trophies and the Mitropa Cup.

He died at the age of 58 after a short illness.

R.I.P

Has anyone seen him play?

[Fillipo Simone]

Good God, he was a Milan legend. Yep, I saw tons of matches he played, not live but on video. Really a good player.

RIP

[kurtsimonw]

RIP.

[acid911]

RIP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[X-Offender]

Apparently Berlusconi has agreed to sell his Villa Certosa to sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan for a staggering €470 million, money that will be used to cover for the €540 million debt of Mondadori.

Link

[dst]

And the difference is 70m. Which means he'll use the money we got from the Ibra/Silva sale and he'll still have 5m to spend on 500 EUR10,000 whores! Life's great for Silvio! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

(IMG:http://www.meteoweb.it/images/villa-certosa-piscina.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.meteoweb.it/images/villa.jpg)

It looks nice and all but €470 million? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[han2503]

There is no way that any piece of property could be worth that much.

He should have sold half of the club for that!! Maybe we could see some forward movement in the near future

[Jack Sparrow]

So we now know what the meeting with the Emirates people was all about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And here we thought they wanted to invest in Milan!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Plus the price is probably all because of location. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[acid911]

That's one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) too many, Jack. Don't tell me you are getting a cut from the €470 million or so?!

[Jack Sparrow]

I wish! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mean I should. I defend Berlusca and Galliani enough over here!!

[X-Offender]

I defend Berlusca and Galliani enough over here!!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[KillerMax]

I wish! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mean I should. I defend Berlusca and Galliani enough over here!!

Yep. Enough is a good word.

[Jack Sparrow]

Enough to deserve a 470 million villa..is what I mean.

[han2503]

How can property be worth so much?

Is the Villa made out of gold FFS??!

[milanbuf88]

How can property be worth so much?

Is the Villa made out of gold FFS??!

Berlu had it specially outfitted for maximum ... utility.... when hosting "events."

[CHU-LIP]

How can property be worth so much?

Is the Villa made out of gold FFS??!

it's worth as much as they can sell it for

[X-Offender]

Milan 5th club in the world for Facebook likes (11.5 million).

Link

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Not bad. Hope everyone of you guys "liked" Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

I know Allegri's a weak starter, but the league and the CL are no longer weak competitions where eventually we can catch up and overhaul any competition.

The above is what I meant the other day when I said over-criticism of Allegri.

"Allegri is to blame for all the injuries" - JB dismissed that myth showing previous seasons under Leo and Carlo with lots of injuries. Milan have a problem with injuries, that problem is not Allegri.

"Allegri is a weak starter" - No. Milan are weak starters.

Our past 7 starts (and how we did at the half way point - and defeats)

Carlo 06/07 start - Won 3 of first 7, 4 of first 12, 5 of first 16. (8 of first 19 - 3 defeats)
Carlo 07/08 start - Won 1 of first 6, 2 of first 9, 4 of first 14. (8 of first 19 - 5 defeats)
Carlo 08/09 start - Won 1 of first 3, 3 of first 6. (11 of first 19 - 4 defeats)
Leo 09/10 start - Won 1 of first 3, 2 of first 7, 4 of first 10. (won 12 of first 19 - 4 defeats)
Allegri 10/11 start - Won 1 of first 4, 4 of first 8. (won 12 of first 19 - 4 defeats)
Allegri 11/12 start - Won 1 of first 5. (won 12 of first 19 - 3 defeats)
Allegri 12/13 start - Won 1 of first 4.

Allegri isn't a problem with slow starts, it's a Milan problem. If anything in recent times, Allegri is our best starter, Averages joint most wins with Leo, averages most points and less defeats at the half way stage (and importantly at the end).

/rantonridiculousantiallegrimyths

[Fillipo Simone]

What this nice display of stats does not reveal however is that Milan with Allegri and his system plays bad football, worse then Leo's or Carlo's. Leo's was a mess; while Carlo - I remember a few of those bad starts - mostly it were unlucky matches where we dominated but couldn't break our oppositions X men defending.

This however is something different. This is a real crisis. Yesterday Boban said on TV that this is the weakest Milan in 25 years, starting from the coach and ending with the players.

Allegri sure isn't the sole responsible man; but he's not helping either. His system is too rigid, just like Zaccheroni's was. He's forcing Milan and the players to play roles they're not comfortable with and that make them look worse then they really are. He's missing out on many special characteristics a player has and can add to the team. He's having his favorites, while others end up being sidelined without even a chance to prove themselves.

Finally, every single goddamn lineup he starts has to be fixed - either in half time or around 60'. Isn't this an indicator?

[han2503]

@ kurt, you're only showing Carlo's weakest seasons with Milan. The previous 3 were a lot better

[Rossoneri7]

What this nice display of stats does not reveal however is that Milan with Allegri and his system plays bad football, worse then Leo's or Carlo's. Leo's was a mess; while Carlo - I remember a few of those bad starts - mostly it were unlucky matches where we dominated but couldn't break our oppositions X men defending.

This however is something different. This is a real crisis. Yesterday Boban said on TV that this is the weakest Milan in 25 years, starting from the coach and ending with the players.

Allegri sure isn't the sole responsible man; but he's not helping either. His system is too rigid, just like Zaccheroni's was. He's forcing Milan and the players to play roles they're not comfortable with and that make them look worse then they really are. He's missing out on many special characteristics a player has and can add to the team. He's having his favorites, while others end up being sidelined without even a chance to prove themselves.

Finally, every single goddamn lineup he starts has to be fixed - either in half time or around 60'. Isn't this an indicator?

Couldn't agree more ...

Obviously we have a weak squad in comparison. A long season awaits Allegri, and his eggs do not fit the bill when peered 'pound for pound' against the likes of Napoli, Juventus etc ... Let alone the strong teams in the CL.

Many, on here, claim that Milan is better equipped to Samp and Atalanta, however I disagree. I believe Samp and Atalanta have a better team cohesion than our beloved Milan, simply because they have experience and a well drilled team.

We need time, we lost a lot with the departures of the senators alone. Once they departed, the squad lost something significant. Now it all rests on Allegri who does not have the luxury of time and as such he will be axed if the results don't go our way. With that said, I have sympathy for him, as I doubt he can transform our end results.

[kurtsimonw]

Finally, every single goddamn lineup he starts has to be fixed - either in half time or around 60'. Isn't this an indicator?

Yes, but the comment I was responding to was talking about slow stats. My post had nothing to do with quality of football. Leo played good football but didn't get results, Carlo's team played good football in his first few seasons but it got significantly worse every year.

@ kurt, you're only showing Carlo's weakest seasons with Milan. The previous 3 were a lot better

I was showing his most recent. To show that it's common for us to start slow.

"But... but... Carlo had a goos start 10 years ago when we had the best squad in football" doesn't really change that.

Fact is our slow starts go on for 4 years before Max even got here, yet he gets blamed. Our injuries go before Allegri, he gets blamed. One thing that didn't happen much recently before Allegri was winning a title which he, of course, gets no credit for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Sep 18 2012, 12:55 PM

[han2503]

Yes, but the comment I was responding to was talking about slow stats. My post had nothing to do with quality of football. Leo played good football but didn't get results, Carlo's team played good football in his first few seasons but it got significantly worse every year.


I was showing his most recent. To show that it's common for us to start slow.

"But... but... Carlo had a goos start 10 years ago when we had the best squad in football" doesn't really change that.

Fact is our slow starts go on for 4 years before Max even got here, yet he gets blamed. Our injuries go before Allegri, he gets blamed. One thing that didn't happen much recently before Allegri was winning a title which he, of course, gets no credit for. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

What I wanted to say by that is that you have to show Carlo's full record. Showing only part of it doesn't say anything. Those 3 seasons were Carlo's worst at Milan and I'm not talking about the start but in general

[kurtsimonw]

What I wanted to say by that is that you have to show Carlo's full record. Showing only part of it doesn't say anything. Those 3 seasons were Carlo's worst at Milan and I'm not talking about the start but in general

I know what you were saying, but my point was it's something that's been around for a while. We may have won 38/38 the season before what I put, doesn't change the fact we've been bad starters for a long time.

[Jack Sparrow]

I also think until this season, Allegri's had a much better squad than Carlo did in the last 3. Zlatan, Thiago and Nesta by themselves change things.

[Zed.D]

I think we played some really good football in Allegri's first season. last season wasn't nearly as good and this season... well, you know.

[kurtsimonw]

I also think until this season, Allegri's had a much better squad than Carlo did in the last 3. Zlatan, Thiago and Nesta by themselves change things.

Much better squad? Pretty sure Carlo also had Nesta. He also managed to finish 5th with Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Kaka', Pato (and Gattuso, Pippo and Seedorf who a number are very fond of).

Think you need to remember Allegri has made a profit on transfers in his time as coach. Which other Milan coach has had to put up with that?

Am I saying he's a great coach? No. But expecting a borderline Europa League team to do anything better than maybe qualify for the Europa League is deluded. Or do you share Galliani's delusion that he should be winning the title?

[Jack Sparrow]

Not really. Nesta was completely out of things. Much like Pippo was last year. Allegri almost had Nesta on call far more.

In any case, no goals scored in 5 games at home is not good. Winning 5 out of 24 Champions League games is also not good.

[TriniKing_CE]

Much better squad? Pretty sure Carlo also had Nesta. He also managed to finish 5th with Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Kaka', Pato (and Gattuso, Pippo and Seedorf who a number are very fond of).

Think you need to remember Allegri has made a profit on transfers in his time as coach. Which other Milan coach has had to put up with that?

Am I saying he's a great coach? No. But expecting a borderline Europa League team to do anything better than maybe qualify for the Europa League is deluded. Or do you share Galliani's delusion that he should be winning the title?

+1

It hurts to see Milan in this state, but the results at present are not shocking to me.

It's disappointing, but not completely unexpected. If continuous losses become a habit, even after we recover Monti, Pato & Bino, then things may begin to boil over for me, but as of now, it is what it is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

I think we played some really good football in Allegri's first season. last season wasn't nearly as good and this season... well, you know.

I disagree. Under Allegri we played dry football based only on the ingenuity of one individual. I acknowledge Allegri's scudetto success, but I'll never acknowledge we played especially good.

Much better squad? Pretty sure Carlo also had Nesta. He also managed to finish 5th with Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Kaka', Pato (and Gattuso, Pippo and Seedorf who a number are very fond of).

That's a very selective memory. Because Pippo was out for a long time, while mentioning Nesta is just ridiculous as he practically couldn't play a normal season.

Maldini and Pirlo sure. Pato? You mean the 17 year old Pato? Come on!

Think you need to remember Allegri has made a profit on transfers in his time as coach. Which other Milan coach has had to put up with that?

Am I saying he's a great coach? No. But expecting a borderline Europa League team to do anything better than maybe qualify for the Europa League is deluded. Or do you share Galliani's delusion that he should be winning the title?

We're not a borderline Europa League team and I'm convinced a good coach would have at least secured us the 3rd spot. But right now Kurt - we're not Europa League - we're playing like a Serie B team, and that has awfully lot to do with Allegri's vision and sense for the game.

[X-Offender]

Wow! Apparently there was a big quarrel between Allegri and Inzaghi today at the Vismara sporting center. Allegri had gone there to watch the training of our youth teams, and thus the meeting with Inzaghi was inevitable. At first the two shook hands, but then they started insulting each-other with heavy words.

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[kurtsimonw]

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[Jack Bauer]

What a mess we have become recently.. Sometimes I think we need to replace everyone starting with Berlu, ending with the janitor.

[X-Offender]

What a mess we have become recently.. Sometimes I think we need to replace everyone starting with Berlu, ending with the janitor.

Amen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Pippo? No way should be replace him.

Allegri obviously lost it. Rino, Nesta, Pippo,...all of them know and knew it before.

[Jack Sparrow]

The twitter account on Milan I follow has more details quoting Gazzetta. Apparently the fight with Allegri and Pippo had them abusing each other and Max accusing Pippo of trying to steal his job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I hope this isn't true.

[Rossoneri7]

The twitter account on Milan I follow has more details quoting Gazzetta. Apparently the fight with Allegri and Pippo had them abusing each other and Max accusing Pippo of trying to steal his job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I hope this isn't true.

FI is reporting the same. I side with Pippo on this one, Allegri can go **** himself! Regardless of who was right/wrong.

[Jack Sparrow]

Yeah the story is, Pippo told Max he has not clue what he's doing...and Max said Pippo is trying to steal his job. Weird!

But if it comes down to Pippo vs Max, I think we know how this fight will end.

[Jack Sparrow]

Amen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

The thing I Hate about all the calls for replacing X and Y (players or management) is no one is got a replacement in mind. We just think anyone but the current person will work. I would think Inter showed us enough why it's a bad idea.

[han2503]

FI is reporting the same. I side with Pippo on this one, Allegri can go **** himself! Regardless of who was right/wrong.

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Forza Pippo!!

[X-Offender]

Peace between Inzaghi and Allegri

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Massimiliano Allegri and Pippo Inzaghi have appeared on Milan Channel to deny stories of a bust up earlier this week.

Reports this morning suggested that the two men had a row and exchanged insults while the tactician visited the club’s youth sector.

“Nothing happened, absolutely nothing,” Allegri noted. “There is no problem with Pippo. In fact, there is great collaboration between the first team and the youth sectors. There was an exchange of opinions without any offence or heavy words.”

The 2006 World Cup winner, new boss of the club’s Allievi side, backed up the claims of the former Cagliari Coach.

“Allegri is right, it lasted for one minute,” he stated. “The youth team players didn’t notice anything because nothing happened.

“We are Milan and we all love Milan, so nothing like that would have occurred. Rather than writing about things that didn’t happen, Milan need a helping hand.”

Allegri is under pressure after a poor start to the season and whispers are suggesting that Inzaghi could be his mid-season replacement.

“I hope to remain at Milan for some time to come,” Allegri added. “But I won’t be here forever and I think that Filippo has all the characteristics needed to have an excellent career as a Coach. He’s started from an excellent base and he can do a good job.

“It’s true that we have only collected three points in the League and we didn’t win in the Champions League, but the team is new and I think we’ve shown some good things in the game. I don’t think the situation is as dark as people are making out.”

Milan are next in action at Udinese this weekend.

“It will be hard on Sunday because they did well in the Europa League, but all games are difficult. We can’t underestimate them,” Allegri concluded.

The televised conference ended with the two men shaking hands.

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[X-Offender]

Apparently the act of peace between Allegri and Inzaghi above was nothing but a mere staging. Because Milan's image had seriously been damaged by the incident, Galliani told both coches that he would sack them unless they appeared in front of Milan Channel's cameras and admitted that nothing happened.

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[CHU-LIP]

Apparently the act of peace between Allegri and Inzaghi above was nothing but a mere staging. Because Milan's image had seriously been damaged by the incident, Galliani told both coches that he would sack them unless they appeared in front of Milan Channel's cameras and admitted that nothing happened.

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makes sense

[X-Offender]

makes sense

Aye. When I read about the peace news, and then saw the video too, it seemed very fake and staged. The rumor above only strengthens my belief.

[acid911]

Well it looked like a PR stunt the moment I read it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Not just that, it actually confirmed that something happened between the two. Both these individuals have a history, actually, as you all are well aware. It just had to reach a breaking point, and from the looks of it, just did. Oh, how the times change!

[han2503]

We've become a farce. Literally!!

[Fillipo Simone]

A farce? You're overreacting. Our signing campaign maybe a farce, but this? I mean, every reconciliation in history is pretty much staged. Did anyone of you guys actually believe they put a 2 year long rift behind and started from scratch? Seriously...

Allegi is in the center of most disputes in Milan; he has to go, he's becoming more and more a dead weight.

[Rossoneri7]

A farce? You're overreacting. Our signing campaign maybe a farce, but this? I mean, every reconciliation in history is pretty much staged. Did anyone of you guys actually believe they put a 2 year long rift behind and started from scratch? Seriously...

Allegi is in the center of most disputes in Milan; he has to go, he's becoming more and more a dead weight.

I do agree to an extent. And I do see that uphill struggle that Allegri is going through. But I do hope that he can finish the season and come out good, I hope (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)