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post Aug 30 2014, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2014, 09:40 PM) *
Roma's midfield is just ridiculously good, I'd kill to have just one of those players in our squad


We could, in a way. De Jong-Poli-Honda is not that much different than De Rossi-Naingggolan-Pjanic. In fact, player per player, they're all copies of each other.
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post Aug 30 2014, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2014, 03:49 PM) *
We could, in a way. De Jong-Poli-Honda is not that much different than De Rossi-Naingggolan-Pjanic. In fact, player per player, they're all copies of each other.


WOW. Haven't had to disagree with you this hard in a LONG time. De jong is outdated version of strootman and that is the closes thing we have to their midfield. The other players aren't even close.
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post Aug 30 2014, 10:03 PM
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I'm just gonna rate our midfield and theirs from 0-99

Roma:
Nainggolan: 81
Strootman: 84
De Rossi: 91
Iturbe: 83
Pjanic: 87
Florenzi: 79 (with big potential)
Total: 505

Milan:
De Jong: 80
Honda: 76
Poli: 76
Montolivo: 79
Muntari: 74
Saponara: 71
Total: 456

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post Aug 30 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 30 2014, 09:48 PM) *
Nainggolan, Strootman, De Rossi, Iturbe, Pjanic, Florenzi....

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Strootman and Pjanic would be the dream of course, but Niangolan and Florenzi would also be great, funny thing is we were close to signing Radja last winter and we backed out - as usual - because of the price and - as usual - Roma swooped in and signed a player we had targeted and wasted months pissing off their club and agent with our transfer "strategies"

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We could, in a way. De Jong-Poli-Honda is not that much different than De Rossi-Naingggolan-Pjanic. In fact, player per player, they're all copies of each other.

They are similar, but quality wise the Roma trio are heads and shoulders above ours. Honda is the only one who comes close technique and quality wise, which becomes a moot point as well since we seem hell bent on wasting him out wide
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 30 2014, 10:03 PM) *
I'm just gonna rate our midfield and theirs from 0-99

Roma:
Nainggolan: 83
Strootman: 81
De Rossi: 91
Iturbe: 83
Pjanic: 87
Florenzi: 79 (with big potential)
Total: 504

Milan:
De Jong: 80
Honda: 76
Poli: 76
Montolivo: 79
Muntari: 74
Saponara: 71
Total: 456

I don't think De Rossi can be rated that high anymore, he's easily one of my favourite players of the last decade or so, but he's declined quite a bit in these last few years

Also, with ours Muntari should be in the 60s, he's just so bad and such a liability to our team, and Monto should be 80 or 81 imo. Honda also should be slightly above Poli by one or 2 points. The rest is pretty spot on. I wonder why we haven't tried to offer Roma some decent money for Florenzi, there's so much talent in their midfield he won't have much space, while here he'd be an instant starter
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post Aug 30 2014, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 30 2014, 09:50 PM) *
WOW. Haven't had to disagree with you this hard in a LONG time. De jong is outdated version of strootman and that is the closes thing we have to their midfield. The other players aren't even close.


I'm talking in terms of player characteristics. They're the same. Obviously Roma's midfield is far superior when it comes to quality. But really, player per player, De Jong is absolutely not inferior to De Rossi as anchor, Poli and Nainggolan are identical players, and Honda and Pjanic are both small, hard-working, left-footed AMs with a flair for creativity.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2014, 04:07 PM) *
I don't think De Rossi can be rated that high anymore, he's easily one of my favourite players of the last decade or so, but he's declined quite a bit in these last few years

Also, with ours Muntari should be in the 60s, he's just so bad and such a liability to our team, and Monto should be 80 or 81 imo. Honda also should be slightly above Poli by one or 2 points. The rest is pretty spot on. I wonder why we haven't tried to offer Roma some decent money for Florenzi, there's so much talent in their midfield he won't have much space, while here he'd be an instant starter



Alright I'm gonna update it. But Monto stays the same IMO. He just never has been able to take that next step in quality and that's why he stays under 80. I already changed Nainggolan and Stroorman a bit as I thought back to last season, I remember Strootman was really solid and consistent while Nainggolan does lack a bit of concentration.

Updated list:

Roma:
Nainggolan: 81
Strootman: 84
De Rossi: 88
Iturbe: 83
Pjanic: 87
Florenzi: 79 (with big potential)
Total: 502

Milan:
De Jong: 80
Honda: 77
Poli: 75
Montolivo: 79
Muntari: 72
Saponara: 71
Total: 454

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2014, 04:08 PM) *
I'm talking in terms of player characteristics. They're the same. Obviously Roma's midfield is far superior when it comes to quality. But really, player per player, De Jong is absolutely not inferior to De Rossi as anchor, Poli and Nainggolan are identical players, and Honda and Pjanic are both small, hard-working, left-footed AMs with a flair for creativity.



Thank god. Because I've come to trust your opinions. But what kind of comparison is that? I can compare Roma's midfield to a local Iranian club in terms of characteristic too...
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post Aug 30 2014, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 30 2014, 10:20 PM) *
Thank god. Because I've come to trust your opinions. But what kind of comparison is that? I can compare Roma's midfield to a local Iranian club in terms of characteristic too...


To show that just like it's working for Roma, it could work for us too, and that if Pjanic can play in a midfield three, so can Honda for us.
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2014, 05:52 PM) *
To show that just like it's working for Roma, it could work for us too, and that if Pjanic can play in a midfield three, so can Honda for us.


Yeah I've given up on the idea of Honda playing centrally at this point but as han mentioned, playing Menez as a false 9 does give Honda some freedom to roam centrally. I guess that's the best we are gonna get for now in that regard.
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Very disappointing display from Inter.

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You mean very pleasing, right?
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So Rossi for Fiorentina was given a negative prognosis by doctors. Looks like his initial surgery didn't go well since he had pre-season discomfort.

I feel like a jerk, but I'm secretly happy about this. With the Viola keeping Cuadrado, Rossi being away puts them at a slight disadvantage.

With our team, we don't just need to be at our best, we need the others to be at below par to make Europe.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 1 2014, 01:21 AM) *
You mean very pleasing, right?


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GdS: Transfer market campaign ratings (scale: 1-10):
Roma: 8.
Juventus: 7,5.
Milan: 7+.
Inter, Fiorentina and Verona: 7.
Napoli: 5,5.
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