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Aug 28 2014, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2014, 10:55 AM) Can't wait for that Jacko, always love reading your tactical and footballing views (not so much about Galliani and Silvio though (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) I personally really want to see Pippo thinking outside the box to counter the issues that we have in midfield by moving Honda there Either at LCM or in the centre slightly ahead of De Jong and Poli/Monto/or even Van Ginkel if we sign him Something like this De Jong--Poli Honda RW--Torres--SES Or Poli--De Jong--Honda RW--Torres--SES I really don't want to see all of Honda's quality being wasted on the bench or on the RW, he needs to be in the centre, especially when we lack so much quality in midfield Why is Menez never included as a starter in your formations? I think he looked like the best player on the field last weekend. Is Cerci really a guaranteed starter over Menez if he arrives?
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Aug 28 2014, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Aug 28 2014, 04:28 PM) Why is Menez never included as a starter in your formations? I think he looked like the best player on the field last weekend. Is Cerci really a guaranteed starter over Menez if he arrives? I'm not 100% sold on Menez yet, and it's been made clear that he'll mostly be used for rotation purposes, Pippo wants a left footed winger on that right side. That being said, if we don't sign someone on that RW, I'm okay with Menez being the one who gets that spot
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Aug 28 2014, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 28 2014, 02:33 PM) Yes. Bottom line is that they're doing it in good spirit. Yes, the road to hell is also paved with good intentions. But no one invests more than half a billion into a club over 20 years with no returns and decides to ruin it himself. We are not just covering losses and cutting down wages. We have signed some exciting talent. There is work being done in primavera. There is work being done on the commercial side. Casa Milan already added 900,000 Euros in revenue (this was reported 2 months ag), and this is in off season. But then again, if you believe the club revolves soley around the first XI and the only model is the Madrid model then so be it. Because that is what you're saying. When you say invest in talent, what you mean is get the next Kaka. When you say get great performers for cheap, what you want is another Zlatanesque deal. These deals are exceptions. The majority of business that is done is like the Chelsea deal for Diego Costa. Full price, no complication, get in and get out type of deals. We can't play that game. As for Palermo and Genoa, (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I've heard for some time now. I'll see it when it happens. Exciting talent? Like who? SES? Mastour? Is that enough to justify their actions? If you honestly believe that substantial work is being done with the Primavera and that in a few years we'll receive the fruits of labor, let me tell you right now that you're mistaken. And even if there you aren't, do you really believe that simply by internal youth projects we'll be able to become competitive? Not in a million years. Casa Milan was a good deal, I agree, but not enough. We're constantly pushing the new stadium project. Initially we were set up for a 2016/17 completion date, now they pushed it to 2020/21. And the whole thing is in stand-by, whereas other clubs like Roma and Udinese have already started working. I don't except us to follow the Madrid model, no, that's simply not possible. But when I see clubs like Juve, Roma, Fiorentina, Napoli and Inter spend good money, whereas we act like Serie B cheapskates, it simply makes my blood boil. Let us not forget this is the THIRD consecutive summer that we are being inactive like this. Ever since we decided to sell Thiago and Ibra, with the exception of Balotelli (which we ended up selling for the same amount we signed him for) we've only signed free agents and rejects, always going into each summer with no plans or projects, no scouting materials and no ambitions. If you really believe this is all part of some masterplan to make us competitive in the future, then by all means do so. But don't expect us all to believe that, and especially don't think we're all being a bunch of fools for being critical, whereas you and R7 know everything what's going on and stand one step ahead of us.
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Aug 28 2014, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 28 2014, 02:53 PM) Exciting talent? Like who? SES? Mastour? Is that enough to justify their actions? If you honestly believe that substantial work is being done with the Primavera and that in a few years we'll receive the fruits of labor, let me tell you right now that you're mistaken. And even if there you aren't, do you really believe that simply by internal youth projects we'll be able to become competitive? Not in a million years.
Casa Milan was a good deal, I agree, but not enough. We're constantly pushing the new stadium project. Initially we were set up for a 2016/17 completion date, now they pushed it to 2020/21. And the whole thing is in stand-by, whereas other clubs like Roma and Udinese have already started working.
I don't except us to follow the Madrid model, no, that's simply not possible. But when I see clubs like Juve, Roma, Fiorentina, Napoli and Inter spend good money, whereas we act like Serie B cheapskates, it simply makes my blood boil. Let us not forget this is the THIRD consecutive summer that we are being inactive like this. Ever since we decided to sell Thiago and Ibra, with the exception of Balotelli (which we ended up selling for the same amount we signed him for) we've only signed free agents and rejects, always going into each summer with no plans or projects, no scouting materials and no ambitions.
If you really believe this is all part of some masterplan to make us competitive in the future, then by all means do so. But don't expect us all to believe that, and especially don't think we're all being a bunch of fools for being critical, whereas you and R7 know everything what's going on and stand one step ahead of us. Well said X-Off!! What also bothers me is that there are "fans" who basically give management the pass to keep operating this way and destroying the club I can't even blame Galliani any more. As he himself has said....he has no hands. So in this context, he has done a fantastic job
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Aug 28 2014, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 28 2014, 05:31 PM) Ugh, Torres really is especially awful. I'd rather sign some mediocre Serie A striker, at least they'd have experience in this league. I know how you feel about this, so I won't go into the mediocrity of certain strikers in this league But, the important issue here is that that type of striker would absolutely struggle with us, look at Matri and now Pazzo, we just don't provide the type of service those types of strikers thrive on and they would end up flopping, I don't think Torres will be an influential goal scorer for us, far from it, but I think his style will fit into Pippo's system
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Aug 28 2014, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 28 2014, 12:53 PM) Exciting talent? Like who? SES? Mastour? Is that enough to justify their actions? If you honestly believe that substantial work is being done with the Primavera and that in a few years we'll receive the fruits of labor, let me tell you right now that you're mistaken. And even if there you aren't, do you really believe that simply by internal youth projects we'll be able to become competitive? Not in a million years.
Casa Milan was a good deal, I agree, but not enough. We're constantly pushing the new stadium project. Initially we were set up for a 2016/17 completion date, now they pushed it to 2020/21. And the whole thing is in stand-by, whereas other clubs like Roma and Udinese have already started working.
I don't except us to follow the Madrid model, no, that's simply not possible. But when I see clubs like Juve, Roma, Fiorentina, Napoli and Inter spend good money, whereas we act like Serie B cheapskates, it simply makes my blood boil. Let us not forget this is the THIRD consecutive summer that we are being inactive like this. Ever since we decided to sell Thiago and Ibra, with the exception of Balotelli (which we ended up selling for the same amount we signed him for) we've only signed free agents and rejects, always going into each summer with no plans or projects, no scouting materials and no ambitions.
If you really believe this is all part of some masterplan to make us competitive in the future, then by all means do so. But don't expect us all to believe that, and especially don't think we're all being a bunch of fools for being critical, whereas you and R7 know everything what's going on and stand one step ahead of us. Jack S. and r7, take notice. Especially the last part. Great post.
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Aug 28 2014, 08:13 PM
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Mediaset claiming that Roma are going to meet Torres' agent (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Their propaganda is just laughable, trying to make people think that's we're not the only club interested in spending money on Torres
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Aug 28 2014, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 28 2014, 09:22 PM) What would be truly hilarious is if Roma actually got him. THAT would probably be the only situation that Torres would actually be a success with service from Iturbe and Ljajic etc. Of course he's coming from a team with Oscar, Hazard and Wilian so who knows....but beating out Milan would be YET another humiliation....especially given the fact that Mourinho likes Destro and they can actually offer Chel$k! something that Galliani can't. I don't think Roma are really interested though, mediaset trying to make the Torres persuit more dramatic and befitting of a heroes doing when Galliani signs him. Can't wait for the golden letters
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Aug 28 2014, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2014, 05:32 PM) I don't think Roma are really interested though, mediaset trying to make the Torres persuit more dramatic and befitting of a heroes doing when Galliani signs him. Can't wait for the golden letters Roma's interest doesn't matter as much as the fact that 1)Mourinho hates Fernando 2)Mourinho likes Destro 3)Diego Costa is injured for 6 weeks 4)Roma will always sell for the right price, and getting Torres after losing Destro isn't a significant downgrade
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Aug 28 2014, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 28 2014, 09:58 PM) Roma's interest doesn't matter as much as the fact that 1)Mourinho hates Fernando 2)Mourinho likes Destro 3)Diego Costa is injured for 6 weeks 4)Roma will always sell for the right price, and getting Torres after losing Destro isn't a significant downgrade Yeah but I don't think they'll be willing to sign Torres for the wages he'll be getting from us, especially since Destro isn't even a regular starter for them, I doubt they'll be willing to sign a bench player with those kinds of wages. Only we're crazy enough to do something like that
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