[X-Offender]

Alright, this is getting confusing. How much is Muntari putting in his pocket every year?

[William405]

So, there is a tax deduction over the player's salary which the government takes. As well as the other 3 million taxes that we pay? Didn't know this.

[han2503]

It does, you said ur biggest issue is he earns 3M after taxes. But in reality he earns 3M before taxes, hence after tax deductions he earns less. Meaning it is no longer ur biggest issue anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What? No, the club takes care of the taxes. So he earns 3m after the club pay his taxes

I didn't understand what you were trying to say in your initial post, according to those reports, he'll be earning 2.8m, the club handle the taxes. Just like Mexes for example earns his 4m, but the club take care of the taxes he has to pay on that 4m per year

[Danny]

Raiola and Wenger negotiating in Brazil over Balotelli apparently.

[han2503]

Alright, this is getting confusing. How much is Muntari putting in his pocket every year?

According to that report he'll be earning 2.8m, don't know if it's before or after, but either way you look at it it's too much for that lazy @ss

So, there is a tax deduction over the player's salary which the government takes. As well as the other 3 million taxes that we pay? Didn't know this.

No that's not how it works

A player like Mexes for example earns 4m per year. However with taxes in Italy that doubles to 8m that the club has to pay so his taxes are covered and he earns the amount that is agreed upon in his contract

[han2503]

What? No, the club takes care of the taxes. So he earns 3m after the club pay his taxes

I didn't understand what you were trying to say in your initial post, according to those reports, he'll be earning 2.8m, the club handle the taxes. Just like Mexes for example earns his 4m, but the club take care of the taxes he has to pay on that 4m per year

This is ridiculous, they can negotiate all they want but until they can give us a an offer that is adequate any personal terms they agree on are null and void

[Danny]

A player like Mexes for example earns 4m per year. However with taxes in Italy that doubles to 8m that the club has to pay so his taxes are covered and he earns the amount that is agreed upon in his contract

That's Italy's version of the 'rich tax'.

In effect Milan are NOT paying 4M, Mexes is. It's just that the government thieve 50% of higher earners' wages so players won't tolerate a wage which ends up with a net pay half of what they think they're entitled to.

So Mexes gets 8M and he (not Milan, although I stand corrected if it's the club who pay it) pays half to the government, leaving 4M in his pocket.

Just like every other high-earning player in Italy.

Precisely the same as Arshavin demanding a renegotiated contract for Arsenal when the £150,000+ tax came into effect. He demanded more money because the government suddenly decided to tax 50% of anyone earning over £150k per year.

I assume the technical details you've been discussing are much the same for Mexes and Italian players as they are in UK.

[Danny]

PS we'll get £35M for Balo.

I can't wait to be shot of him.

[X-Offender]

According to that report he'll be earning 2.8m, don't know if it's before or after, but either way you look at it it's too much for that lazy @ss

No, I think the reports were incorrect or we misinterpreted them. It's in fact €2.8 million before tax. Muntari used to earn €1.5 million after tax. With this new contract now he'll earn €1.4 million after tax. So, his wages were reduced.

PS we'll get £35M for Balo.

I can't wait to be shot of him.

Oh the delight if that does happen!

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Barbara: "My father and Galliani are negotiating for Iturbe"

Link

So, our interest is official. Nice. If we get Iturbe and someone like Negredo or Mandzukic this would be the best mercato since 2010.

[X-Offender]

Oh, and she also said that we should have a new stadium by 2019-2020. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

No, I think the reports were incorrect or we misinterpreted them. It's in fact €2.8 million before tax. Muntari used to earn €1.5 million after tax. With this new contract now he'll earn €1.4 million after tax. So, his wages were reduced.



Oh the delight if that does happen!

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Barbara: "My father and Galliani are negotiating for Iturbe"

Link

So, our interest is official. Nice. If we get Iturbe and someone like Negredo or Mandzukic this would be the best mercato since 2010.

I still kind of want Balo to stay...

I really like the fact that we have a young, talented Italian CF (....his alternative for me would have been G. Rossi, but as unlikely as that is, he is also a serous gamble with his injuries).

Further to this, I don't believe Balo has been 'that bad' for us.


Also, I don't see how we're going to be able to afford Iturbe at 25 mil (let alone another top class CF - even with the possible sale of Balo)... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

When have we EVER reinvested all our income from a transfer sale back into the same window?

Regardless of Berlusconi possibly funding Iturbe (which I don't get given our whole, complying with FFP, and with our plan of being self sufficient etc etc.; then again it won't be the first time our managment has been hypocritical and lied to the fans in recent years)

Without CL, I really think we have a good enough attacking squad to get into the top 3, and continue building a squad for the future. I don't want another 'great' transfer window to be in vain (ala Ibra & co.), essentially a couple steps forward and even way more back a couple seasons after when we realize funds are low again and have to sell.

Rumors or Iturbe etc. are nice and all, but the more I think about it, the more worried I'm getting about if it were to happen, how exactly it'll be accomplished, and the domino effect it would have on the club a couple seasons after.

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This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Jun 22 2014, 04:25 PM

[TriniKing_CE]

Oh, and she also said that we should have a new stadium by 2019-2020. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I laughed when I saw this earlier as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Just earlier this year the goal in mind was 2016, was it?

Now its suddenly gone back 3-4 yrs... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[William405]

According to that report he'll be earning 2.8m, don't know if it's before or after, but either way you look at it it's too much for that lazy @ss


No that's not how it works

A player like Mexes for example earns 4m per year. However with taxes in Italy that doubles to 8m that the club has to pay so his taxes are covered and he earns the amount that is agreed upon in his contract

Oh, alright.

[X-Offender]

I still kind of want Balo to stay...

I really like the fact that we have a young, talented Italian CF (....his alternative for me would have been G. Rossi, but as unlikely as that is, he is also a serous gamble with his injuries).

Further to this, I don't believe Balo has been 'that bad' for us.


Also, I don't see how we're going to be able to afford Iturbe at 25 mil (let alone another top class CF - even with the possible sale of Balo)... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

When have we EVER reinvested all our income from a transfer sale back into the same window?

Regardless of Berlusconi possibly funding Iturbe (which I don't get given our whole, complying with FFP, and with our plan of being self sufficient etc etc.; then again it won't be the first time our managment has been hypocritical and lied to the fans in recent years)

Without CL, I really think we have a good enough attacking squad to get into the top 3, and continue building a squad for the future. I don't want another 'great' transfer window to be in vain (ala Ibra & co.), essentially a couple steps forward and even way more back a couple seasons after when we realize funds are low again and have to sell.

Rumors or Iturbe etc. are nice and all, but the more I think about it, the more worried I'm getting about if it were to happen, how exactly it'll be accomplished, and the domino effect it would have on the club a couple seasons after.

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Anything is possible, especially with this club. Who would have thought we'd spend €46 million on Ibra and Robinho in 2010, when we had sold Kaká only one year earlier?

As for Balo, I don't want him to stay. He hasn't been 'that bad', but he hasn't been 'that good' either, and I don't see him becoming 'that good' any time in the near future. Just because he's young and Italian is not a sufficient excuse.

[TriniKing_CE]

Anything is possible, especially with this club. Who would have thought we'd spend €46 million on Ibra and Robinho in 2010, when we had sold Kaká only one year earlier?

As for Balo, I don't want him to stay. He hasn't been 'that bad', but he hasn't been 'that good' either, and I don't see him becoming 'that good' any time in the near future. Just because he's young and Italian is not a sufficient excuse.

I can understand where you're coming from, as I believe everyone has similar feelings, especially concerning Balo.

But like I said, if by some miracle management were going to fund this meracato in such a way that the fans were optimistic again (as in 2010), who is to say that the success we expect would follow?

And even so, what's to stop them from ripping away our progress (even after possible success in the league or otherwise were to follow), just as they did with Ibra & Thiago, when they can no longer afford to absorb the cost of having top players?

We had a side capable of winning (inclusive of the best CB in the world & argubaly the best CF)

But when the going got rough, we sold them just like that for quick cash (for cheap).

What's going to be different this time??!

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Jun 22 2014, 04:54 PM