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post Jun 14 2014, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 14 2014, 04:11 PM) *
Meh, these days being a CF seems to be going out of style with most teams using "false #9s"


Yeah, but false #9s that can play that role. I don't think SES can, but I could be wrong. Does he really want to, anyway? Cos when was played as SS he seemed to complain about it. In a recent interview he said he wants to keep playing wide on the left.
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post Jun 14 2014, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 14 2014, 07:00 PM) *
Yeah, but false #9s that can play that role. I don't think SES can, but I could be wrong. Does he really want to, anyway? Cos when was played as SS he seemed to complain about it. In a recent interview he said he wants to keep playing wide on the left.

I personally don't think he really has the dribbling and creativity to play out wide, which is why he struggled when defenders found him out
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post Jun 15 2014, 01:21 AM
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We sold Darmian for 1.3 million. Looks like we made a mistake looking for a CB when he's made a very good fullback.

He'll cost at least 10 million now.

No word on anyone leaving yet?

And what of Kaka. His family problems seem resolved.
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post Jun 15 2014, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 15 2014, 09:21 AM) *
We sold Darmian for 1.3 million. Looks like we made a mistake looking for a CB when he's made a very good fullback.

He'll cost at least 10 million now.

No word on anyone leaving yet?

And what of Kaka. His family problems seem resolved.


I've always liked Darmian. But I never thought he was good enough to start for Italy. Really impressed me today.
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post Jun 15 2014, 01:54 PM
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Yes, he was good. But we should take more time to evaluate him.
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post Jun 15 2014, 03:53 PM
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Does Darmian normally play at RB for Torino?

And personally I'd rather not jump the gun, I saw him against Ireland and Fluminense in the friendlies before the WC started. He was solid against Ireland but had a nightmare against Fluminense, I was very shocked at the shift he put in yesterday. I'd prefer to see what he does for the rest of the competition before declaring that we need to bring him back.

Also, he could be a Grosso type player, he looked absolutely phenomenal in 06 but has failed at club level.

I'd like to see what he can do next game if DS hasn't recovered that is and play him on the left and Abate on the right with the Juve duo in the centre, I think that would be a much more solid back 4 for Italy
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post Jun 15 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2014, 04:53 PM) *
Does Darmian normally play at RB for Torino?

He plays on the right of a back 5 usually.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2014, 04:53 PM) *
Also, he could be a Grosso type player, he looked absolutely phenomenal in 06 but has failed at club level.

Yeah I wouldn't sign a player based on how he plays Internationally. Lots of players perform for club and then not for country, then the other way around too. If we're going to sign him, it has to be based on what he's done for Torino, not Italy.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 15 2014, 04:03 PM) *
He plays on the right of a back 5 usually.


Yeah I wouldn't sign a player based on how he plays Internationally. Lots of players perform for club and then not for country, then the other way around too. If we're going to sign him, it has to be based on what he's done for Torino, not Italy.

Agreed, and I personally don't want to see us waste money on a player who we've already given up on once. Just ridiculous that we're producing these players from our youth teams, letting them go on co-owns on the cheap, and then spending big money to get them back. Once the ship has sailed I say we should just move on

If we're going to spend any money on a FB this season it has to go on Santon. That's the only young FB around right now who I can see getting in ahead of either Abate or DS should they have another rotten season of injuries and bad form
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post Jun 15 2014, 04:09 PM
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Watching Greece yesterday reminded me we had Sokratis too and let him go, now look at him at Dortmund... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 15 2014, 04:09 PM) *
Watching Greece yesterday reminded me we had Sokratis too and let him go, now look at him at Dortmund... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Is he doing well at Dortmund? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Don't know he was a total mess when he signed for us
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2014, 05:10 PM) *
Is he doing well at Dortmund? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Don't know he was a total mess when he signed for us

He made it into the Bundesliga XI this season.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 15 2014, 04:19 PM) *
He made it into the Bundesliga XI this season.

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He was atrocious for us. And personally I don't think he'd have reached that level with us had he stayed a million years
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post Jun 15 2014, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2014, 03:53 PM) *
I'd like to see what he can do next game if DS hasn't recovered that is and play him on the left and Abate on the right with the Juve duo in the centre, I think that would be a much more solid back 4 for Italy


Darmian can't play on the left.

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He was atrocious for us. And personally I don't think he'd have reached that level with us had he stayed a million years


Atrocious? Nah. I think we blamed him more than he deserved.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 15 2014, 05:24 PM) *
Darmian can't play on the left.



Atrocious? Nah. I think we blamed him more than he deserved.

He's played on the left in the warm ups for Italy, and if DS is not fit, there's no other option really aside from playing Chiellini which was a bad idea, he was terrible there yesterday

He was very bad when he played, I remember one particular game (can't remember who against) where he was just dropping clangers everywhere
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2014, 05:32 PM) *
He's played on the left in the warm ups for Italy, and if DS is not fit, there's no other option really aside from playing Chiellini which was a bad idea, he was terrible there yesterday

He was very bad when he played, I remember one particular game (can't remember who against) where he was just dropping clangers everywhere


Hopefully De Sciglio recovers soon. Still can't believe Prandelli called only one LB, especially known De Sciglio's injury prone.

He was shaky against Napoli and Juve, that's about it. In no way was he very bad or atrocious.
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