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 Sep 14 2006, 05:07 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911  |
He is overrated when he is compared to the likes of Maradona ... last time I checked he Ronaldinho had not won a World Cup all on his own, am I wrong???
Other than that he's certainly one of the best right now. In fact I can't think of any other player that constantly play at his level other than Kaká (who is better IMO; his game is much more cardinal) and Henry (he simply drags a mediocre team to higher levels on his own) ... .. but he's no Maradona. no way!!! |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:15 PM
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Berretti  Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:07 PM) He is overrated when he is compared to the likes of Maradona ... last time I checked he Ronaldinho had not won a World Cup all on his own, am I wrong??? Other than that he's certainly one of the best right now. In fact I can't think of any other player that constantly play at his level other than Kaká (who is better IMO; his game is much more cardinal) and Henry (he simply drags a mediocre team to higher levels on his own) ... .. but he's no Maradona. no way!!!  Obviously there's only 1 Maradona. PS: Ronaldinho won the WC 2002 with Scolari. He's not his fault Parreira's was too stupid in this years one. |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:16 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 14 2006, 07:02 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Please.....please don't..... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I'm so afraid right now... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) you're going to pay for this derision!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:02 PM) Can you imagine Kaka' + R10 with Inzaghi (or Gila) upfront? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) that would be something ... and I don't have to worry about the Gaucho - Kaká (can someone please tell me how to do the á without copy-pasting all the time?? thanks...) cause this is not the Brazil NT ... we have Milanello and much time to work things out ... it'll be no problem!!! QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:04 PM) -Totti gets 6M a year, way way more than the others players of Roma... and aren't they a strong "group"? Just look how they celebrate their goals... don't just throw some numbers off; this is a completely different situation there at Roma: Totti raised himself through the team and became the captain ... and he's proved it numerous times when he's rejected offers to leave. Ofcourse everyone respects him there and they'd even pay him themselves if they had to. Is this the same with a player suddenly coming inside a team (the backbone of which has been there for some good 5 years) and getting paid that fat 12m??? Well no hell it's not the same!!! |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:17 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:15 PM) PS: Ronaldinho won the WC 2002 with Scolari. He's not his fault Parreira's was too stupid in this years one. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:28 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:16 PM) don't just throw some numbers off; this is a completely different situation there at Roma: Totti raised himself through the team and became the captain ... and he's proved it numerous times when he's rejected offers to leave. Ofcourse everyone respects him there and they'd even pay him themselves if they had to. Is this the same with a player suddenly coming inside a team (the backbone of which has been there for some good 5 years) and getting paid that fat 12m??? Well no hell it's not the same!!! It's not the same, but, if you ask the 90% of the Milan players who they want on the team... you know the answer. Even Gattuso told that on an interview. (R10 is Rino's worst nightmare) |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:30 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:17 PM) Don't you remember the World Cup 2002 - Japan/Korea? Brazil 2-0 Germany on the final? Ronaldinho was there... remember his goal vs. England (Seaman)? Is this what you don't remember/get? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:35 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 04:04 PM) Oh... and talking about the 12M-per year... well, I give 1 example: -Totti gets 6M a year, way way more than the others players of Roma... and aren't they a strong "group"? Just look how they celebrate their goals... Well that's a different thing I'd say. Totti IS Roma. he plays for this club since 1995 now I guess. He's the undenieable leader of the squad, for many years, and he's the teams captain for many years. No one can complain about him getting such a wage. If Ronnie arrives and earns 12 Million a years this would be a whole different thing... |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:40 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 04:30 PM) Don't you remember the World Cup 2002 - Japan/Korea? Brazil 2-0 Germany on the final? Ronaldinho was there... remember his goal vs. England (Seaman)? Is this what you don't remember/get? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I still remember this of course, it was the magic triangle back then, the 3 R's. Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho. No one says he's not a great player, but he's surely not the leading kind that can push a team on his own, like Henry is one, or Juninho. Ronaldinho is like a desert, nice to watch, and you definetely like it but he's nothing that really fills your stomach... |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:46 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:28 PM) It's not the same, but, if you ask the 90% of the Milan players who they want on the team... you know the answer. Even Gattuso told that on an interview. (R10 is Rino's worst nightmare) well .. from that perspective ... I guess they'll get what they want (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:30 PM) Is this what you don't remember/get? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) No I said Ronaldinho did not a win a WC on his own!!! Ofcourse I remember him playing in 2002 ... I even remember Ricky sitting on the bench!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 14 2006, 07:35 PM) Well that's a different thing I'd say. Totti IS Roma. he plays for this club since 1995 now I guess. He's the undenieable leader of the squad, for many years, and he's the teams captain for many years. No one can complain about him getting such a wage. If Ronnie arrives and earns 12 Million a years this would be a whole different thing... I already said that ... are you so f@cking lazy to read the above??? I'm telling you just one more single mistake and I'm off to buy the whole Bochum thing!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:49 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:46 PM) No I said Ronaldinho did not a win a WC on his own!!! Oh that. Nowadays, it's hard to win a WC alone... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) South Africa will be the Kaka'/R10/Robinho World Cup. For sure. You can bet on that. |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:51 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 14 2006, 07:49 PM) South Africa will be the Kaka'/R10/Robinho World Cup. For sure. You can bet on that. well if they get past any FIFA-boosted African team ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... I don't think it was easy back in '86 for a one man solo to do the job!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:54 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 14 2006, 04:51 PM) well if they get past any FIFA-boosted African team ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ... I don't think it was easy back in '86 for a one man solo to do the job!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ahah. Parreira will be in S.Africa so no prob... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) In 1986 they put a good tactic + Maradona. This year's Brazil put the "magic square" knowing it wouldn't work... |
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Sep 14 2006, 05:54 PM
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Pulcini 99 Group: Full Members Posts: 38 Joined: 4-July 06 Member No.: 2,060 |
he is highly overrated
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Sep 14 2006, 06:10 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
We talked about him so many times (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I don't think he is overrated. He is the best players in the world today (o.k he was bad in the WC but it's the coach fault) and he is treated as such. |
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Sep 14 2006, 06:23 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 14 2006, 05:10 PM) We talked about him so many times (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Believe me. Until 31st of August 2007... we'll be talking and talking and talking around Ronaldinho. Not only us. This will be the transfer of Summer 2007. (Dream MODE ON) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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