[X-Offender]

So, Inter have started using the 3-man defense as well, and with good results. I wonder if Allegri will ever consider this possibility.

[kurtsimonw]

Hopefully.

[Fillipo Simone]

Naah, can't see that happening. Maybe after a few more bumps on the road.

[X-Offender]

The thing is that even in the last few games he hasn't really changed much. Against Udinese and Cagliari, the intention was to play 4-3-3, but one of the forwards was Emanuelson, and in the words of Nesta: "Emanuelson is a fullback, not a striker". Against Parma he played Boateng alongside El Shaarawy and Bojan, which, again, doesn't change much in terms of attacking power. He never strays from the 3 defensive midfielders, no matter what. At least he could play a 4-2-3-1 with Emanuelson on the right wing, instead of Bojan, which would grant him some more cover.

Montolivo - De Jong
Emanuelson - Boateng - El Shaarawy
FW

The question is, does he have the balls to play such an attacking formation? I highly doubt so.

[CHU-LIP]

Montolivo - De Jong
Emanuelson - Boateng - El Shaarawy
FW

The question is, does he have the balls to play such an attacking formation? I highly doubt so.

Emanuelson as RW? Boateng as trequarista?

3-4-3 please. When I take a look at our fullbacks, they all fit better as wingbacks anyway.

[kurtsimonw]

3-4-3 please. When I take a look at our fullbacks, they all fit better as wingbacks anyway.

Agreed.

Imagine if we went 3 at the back last season with the centre backs we had. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

Agreed.

Imagine if we went 3 at the back last season with the centre backs we had. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Thiago Silva was ideal as sweeper, with Nesta and Mexes on his sides, at times Yepes instead, that's quality. Bonera will do well as side-central defender for sure too.

At the same time Van Bommel was a very good man to have in front of an excellent central defense pair though. Now things have changed.

[han2503]

Allegri will never go for a 3-4-3, too dynamic for his stale tastes me thinks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Besides, we do not have strong enough CBs to pull it off anyways. You want to let the likes of Bonera, Acerbi, Yepes try to handle the discipline it takes to play in a 3 man defence?

[CHU-LIP]

Allegri will never go for a 3-4-3, too dynamic for his stale tastes me thinks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Besides, we do not have strong enough CBs to pull it off anyways. You want to let the likes of Bonera, Acerbi, Yepes try to handle the discipline it takes to play in a 3 man defence?

You forget to mention Zapata and Mexes. Zapata would be a perfect fit for the three man defense.

And yes, that's what I want. Three central defenders supported by two wingbacks and two DM/CMs would be in our case stronger than two central defenders supported by two fullbacks and that midfield. And don't forget the wingforwards, while El Shaarawy for example tracks back very well.

[han2503]

You forget to mention Zapata and Mexes. Zapata would be a perfect fit for the three man defense.

And yes, that's what I want. Three central defenders supported by two wingbacks and two DM/CMs would be in our case stronger than two central defenders supported by two fullbacks and that midfield. And don't forget the wingforwards, while El Shaarawy for example tracks back very well.

A 3 man defence is a completely different concept than a flat back 4.

There are very good reasons as to why most teams don't do this. And just because it worked decently for Inter in 2 of their games does not mean that it's a long term solution for them and their problems.

[CHU-LIP]

A 3 man defence is a completely different concept than a flat back 4.

That's exactly why I want it. The four man defense is a bad choice for our current squad.

There are very good reasons as to why most teams don't do this. And just because it worked decently for Inter in 2 of their games does not mean that it's a long term solution for them and their problems.

Many Serie A teams play with three central defenders. Inter has nothing to do with this.

[han2503]

That's exactly why I want it. The four man defense is a bad choice for our current squad.


Many Serie A teams play with three central defenders. Inter has nothing to do with this.

You want it just because it's different?

I know we need radical changes but you have to look at things objectively. Personally, I think our best solution is a 4-2-1-3 or a 4-2-3-1 depending on how you want to look at it when we're in attack or defence.

Just because some Serie A teams use it doesn't mean we should as well. We'll see how long Inter can sustain a good run, it's only been 2 games FFS and now we're looking at a 3 man defence as if it's the holy grail of football.

Mexes and Zapata are our only really good central defenders, we have 2 good FBs. The only person that would benefit from a 3 man defence is Urby, he's the only wingback in our team and we have no other good position for him

[CHU-LIP]

No, not 'just because'. I think I've explained before. And Yepes is a good central defender too.

El Shaarawy(Emanuelson) - Pato(Pazzini) - Robinho(Bojan/Boateng)
Emanuelson(Vilà/Antonini) - Montolivo(Ambrosini) - De Jong(Ambrosini/Flamini) - De Sciglio(Abate/Antonini)
Zapata(Acerbi/Bonera) - Yepes(Mexes/Zapata) - Mexes(Bonera/Zapata)
Abbiati(Amelia/Gabriel)

Why play with a trequarista if we don't have anyone who fits in well there, same goes for not having a proper leftback. Right now we play with two central defenders that need help from fullbacks, but ours go forward offering nothing to the attack (bar De Sciglio) just to return too late in defense, so that our central defenders are exposed, facing too many opponents. Three central defenders instead of two is having MORE DEFENDERS in REALITY than what we have now, really. And just because I put players like De Sciglio more advanced, doesn't mean they are no defenders anymore. The whole midfield four will contribute a lot in defending, and also the wingforwards will contribute to that, they showed it already. I added some alternatives into the line-up, not all are mentioned.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Oct 1 2012, 08:49 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

De Sciglio really isn't up to it for now. Abate though is; it's absurd you'd bench a real RM for a young teen who's never even been tested there. But I don't think it would work either. I'm not sure we'd get any significant change with that line-up other then defensive instability.

One other question bothers me. Why don't we try using Constant more often. Even on the famous Boateng AM position. I find it ridiculous that Allegri tried out Traore more then Constant and gave him the nod against Cagliari.

[X-Offender]

I'm not sure we'd get any significant change with that line-up other then defensive instability.

And playing 4-2-3-1 wouldn't lead to defensive instability? Come on now! It's a gambe we must take in order to strengthen our offensive game, and playing a 3-man defense with wingers would be the safest bet in that regard. I'm up for either formation, really, as long as we stop playing whatever Allegri has been playing in these past few weeks.