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post Jul 6 2012, 07:45 AM
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News:


-Pep will be in moscow today. There are talks regarding him taking over russia.


-Galliani spoke to the press and this is what he said:


Galliani: ""The market is closed because numerically we are good. If someone were to leave then there will be some coming. There are currently no bids for Robinho, we have 5 strikers. A deal for Julio Cesar does not exist. He is a person who I admire very much but we have three great goalkeepers in Abbiati, Amelia, and Gabriel. "



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post Jul 6 2012, 09:09 AM
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-Inter have not called up Julio Cesar for Inter's preseason start. The Goalkeeper has been told he is not wanted at the club and to find a solution.


Inter are treating him very badly, shocking.

I find it hard to believe Galliani won't be tempted to sign an out of contract Cesar. that's the kind of deal this man lives for. he can say all he wants, Cesar will be signed as "a gift from the president".
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jul 6 2012, 10:09 AM) *
Inter are treating him very badly, shocking.

I find it hard to believe Galliani won't be tempted to sign an out of contract Cesar. that's the kind of deal this man lives for. he can say all he wants, Cesar will be signed as "a gift from the president".

But I still think it would be a superb addition. IMO he's better then Abbiati, and if he regains his previous form and stays out of injuries (which worries me most) he'd be a classy addition. Not that we needed addition elsewhere, but anyway...
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:51 AM
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I agree completely. a change of clubs could give him that extra push to get back to his very best again. I know we're in a bad situation financially and that we need improvements in other areas more than we need in GK, but I hope we sign him in the end.
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:58 AM
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Sometimes I just don't get the management, Galliani can talk all he wants but we all know that's BS

But I just don't get why they focus on areas that we don't really need any additional players in, while other areas are seemingly overlooked when those areas are desperate for someone decent to fill that position.

At this point in time a DM should be a critical acquisition, not just a simple need, but it's imperative that we find someone who can fill in for VB. Saying that we have 2 players for ever position is just ridiculous as only Ambro can fill in the DM position and play it in the way Allegri requires in his system

I get what you're saying Filippo, J.C is better than Abbiati and would be a good signing, but he's not really needed imo and like someone else said above, it's a waste of resources that could be used elsewhere. Those 2.2m could be used in offering a player like Strrotman a decent contract
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post Jul 6 2012, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (TheOgre @ Jul 6 2012, 08:14 AM) *
Abbs will be busy filming despicable me 2, wont he?...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Really looking forward to that movie, by the way.
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 6 2012, 10:58 AM) *
Sometimes I just don't get the management, Galliani can talk all he wants but we all know that's BS

But I just don't get why they focus on areas that we don't really need any additional players in, while other areas are seemingly overlooked when those areas are desperate for someone decent to fill that position.

At this point in time a DM should be a critical acquisition, not just a simple need, but it's imperative that we find someone who can fill in for VB. Saying that we have 2 players for ever position is just ridiculous as only Ambro can fill in the DM position and play it in the way Allegri requires in his system

I get what you're saying Filippo, J.C is better than Abbiati and would be a good signing, but he's not really needed imo and like someone else said above, it's a waste of resources that could be used elsewhere. Those 2.2m could be used in offering a player like Strrotman a decent contract

Focus? Even if we sign him, it's hardly us focusing on different positions/keepers. It's a gift from heaven, a funny constellation of things (Inter deciding to treat him like he's some second rate keeper, him wanting to stay in Milano) that we decided to turn in our favor. I see nothing wrong in it, when will we have the next opportunity to sign a world class keeper like him?

As for Strootman, he's become a magical word these days. Are you sure we could need those 2.2m? I don't know a thing about Strootman, the link has been dead for weeks now and I think we can cross the kid of our list.
I'm also positive that we'll sign a new DM if the opportunity comes, with or without JC.
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 6 2012, 09:17 AM) *
Focus? Even if we sign him, it's hardly us focusing on different positions/keepers. It's a gift from heaven, a funny constellation of things (Inter deciding to treat him like he's some second rate keeper, him wanting to stay in Milano) that we decided to turn in our favor. I see nothing wrong in it, when will we have the next opportunity to sign a world class keeper like him?

As for Strootman, he's become a magical word these days. Are you sure we could need those 2.2m? I don't know a thing about Strootman, the link has been dead for weeks now and I think we can cross the kid of our list.
I'm also positive that we'll sign a new DM if the opportunity comes, with or without JC.

I know it's an opportunity, that's why I said that I agreed with you to an extent. However, it's not a position that we're desperate to fill

While the DM position is in the desperate region and not something we could wait for an opportunity to present itself. It's a position where Galliani absolutely has to take action to fill. Strootman was an example, we've already lost out on Lass because all we could offer him was a contract that only a player coming from a bottom table team would accept
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:27 AM
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While the DM position is in the desperate region and not something we could wait for an opportunity to present itself. It's a position where Galliani absolutely has to take action to fill. Strootman was an example, we've already lost out on Lass because all we could offer him was a contract that only a player coming from a bottom table team would accept

I strongly disagree. Lass wanted the money, that's why he's gone for Turkey. But in reality he's nothing but an overrated mediocre player who hasn't played a real season in ages. He sure wasn't worth the money Fener gave him. I'd rather take my chances with Strasser, how bad can the kid be?
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 6 2012, 02:27 PM) *
I strongly disagree. Lass wanted the money, that's why he's gone for Turkey. But in reality he's nothing but an overrated mediocre player who hasn't played a real season in ages. He sure wasn't worth the money Fener gave him. I'd rather take my chances with Strasser, how bad can the kid be?

+∞ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Multiple +∞ even. Very well put, man. The only reason Galliani went for him was that he thought he'd be able to rope in Lass for free. And now the player has rejected us twice. As for the quality, I never was sold on the guy, there's a reason why he graced the benches of Real Madrid.

I too would take Strasser in the starting XI any day of the week. Good player he is, he can only improve.
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 6 2012, 10:27 AM) *
I strongly disagree. Lass wanted the money, that's why he's gone for Turkey. But in reality he's nothing but an overrated mediocre player who hasn't played a real season in ages. He sure wasn't worth the money Fener gave him. I'd rather take my chances with Strasser, how bad can the kid be?

Lass imo is a very good DM, I've wathed him at Real, Chelsea, Arsenal and a few Pompey games. At Chelsea he didn't find his feet much as he was forced to play at RB most times, while at Real he really came into his own before they bought flashier players like Khedira and Alonso.

the fact is that he could have really improved our midfield, and yes he wanted money, but I'm sure that had we offered him something decent he would have chosen Milan over a Turkish club.

As for Strasser, he's just not ready to be our starting DM, no matter how hopeful some people are that we'll finally be able to see a Primavera player finally make it into the senior squad. Add to that he's missed nearly an entire season worth of development through injury. We abolsutely need a new DM, and imo, wasting resources on a keeper is just not the right decision. And it's not like we're talking about Casillas here, Cesar's good days have long passed
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 6 2012, 11:07 AM) *
Lass imo is a very good DM, I've wathed him at Real, Chelsea, Arsenal and a few Pompey games. At Chelsea he didn't find his feet much as he was forced to play at RB most times, while at Real he really came into his own before they bought flashier players like Khedira and Alonso.

the fact is that he could have really improved our midfield, and yes he wanted money, but I'm sure that had we offered him something decent he would have chosen Milan over a Turkish club.

As for Strasser, he's just not ready to be our starting DM, no matter how hopeful some people are that we'll finally be able to see a Primavera player finally make it into the senior squad. Add to that he's missed nearly an entire season worth of development through injury. We abolsutely need a new DM, and imo, wasting resources on a keeper is just not the right decision. And it's not like we're talking about Casillas here, Cesar's good days have long passed

did you watch him play last season fr madrid. Whenever I saw him play last season he was mst of the time worst player for Mdrid imo..
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 3 2012, 10:15 PM) *
I'm sorry man, I've lived in Italy for more than 3 years and I've never heard of such thing. I mean, sure, there is friction between the north and the south, everyone knows that. But going as far as saying that the presidents and owners of the southern clubs refuse or are reluctant to sell their players to the northern clubs is absolutely untrue. Dozens of transfers like that occur every year.

Yes, that's what surprised me, since you lived there. Maybe this point was never brought up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I obviously have a second-hand knowledge of thing, never visited Italy. But regardless, like I said, the friction is there, and while players do transfer between clubs of all regions, I've very rarely seen big talents being sold to the big Northern clubs. Anyway, the rift is surely not as strong/big as it was in the 80s and 90s.

Also like I said, maybe they have a special grudge for AC Milan because of the Berlusconi connection.

QUOTE (mishie @ Jul 3 2012, 11:17 PM) *
easy tiger i got southern blood in me!

I of course, exclusively meant the club owners of Southern Italian cities, and the real mafia there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Surely not the people, which in fact, I am not the type to divide people up, in any country for that matter. An average citizen in any country of the world, just wants to live a peaceful and fulfilling life.

But usually it's the people in power (or should I say the wolves in power) that spoil everything.
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:44 AM
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[sorry there were some erros, look on next page for wages]



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Even assuming the other 4 players add in other 15 million, that's still a very good wage we're paying (122 million). We could possibly only shave off another 2 million by replacing Robinho with some other comparable player.

The commercial revenues and the TV revenues should go up this season. And finally that just leaves us with the all important stadium financing issue.
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