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Feb 17 2011, 10:08 AM
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Maybe we should play XI Merkels. I heard those Germans invented the cloning process long time ago...
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Feb 17 2011, 10:54 AM
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I'm ashamed of myself. This is a tribalfootball article. But it's just way too juicy. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE AC Milan firebrand Rino Gattuso faces an eight-match ban for his bust-up with Tottenham coach Joe Jordan.
Gattuso’s assault at the end of Spurs’ superb 1-0 win at the San Siro was followed by further bust-ups in the tunnel.
A source told the Daily Star: “There were quarrels going on all the way back to the dressing-rooms.
“Kevin-Prince Boateng and Alessandro Nesta tried to keep Gattuso quiet, warning him he could be banned for a month if he did not stop.
“Mario Yepes and Robinho were arguing with Sebastian Bassong, who was shouting from the touchline all match.
“Ibrahimovic was standing by the wall warning Tottenham the tie was not over, and eventually Flamini was able to calm down Rino (Gattuso).” *cue evil laughter* Do you feel lucky punk? Do you? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 17 2011, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2011, 03:01 PM)  He's been training regularly with the rest of the team and should be called-up for Verona, though he might start from the bench. Hopefully not. I'd really like to see something like this against Chievo Abate--Thiago--Nesta--Antonini Van Bommel Flamini--Boateng Cassano Pato--Zlatan A lot of running and energy, Van Bommel the stable force to win the ball and play it forward. Cassano with a free role coming in and out of the center.
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Feb 17 2011, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2011, 03:05 PM)  Hopefully not. I'd really like to see something like this against Chievo Abate--Thiago--Nesta--Antonini Van Bommel Flamini--Boateng Cassano Pato--Zlatan A lot of running and energy, Van Bommel the stable force to win the ball and play it forward. Cassano with a free role coming in and out of the center. Without binho? For rest him or why? Because i dont see any other option. Or you are also an anti robinho fan?
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Feb 17 2011, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 16 2011, 06:15 AM)  Nope, I meant Robinho. Ibra dhows up in more than half the big games. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Whatever that means! Robinho on the other hand has always been a low-class bounty-hunter (LOBO, if you will) for me. Even in his time with City, he barely scored one goal against the big clubs: Arsenal, Chelsea, United and Liverpool. If only we had secured the signature of someone like Cavani, instead of this huffing puff. That's highly debatable. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Lack of Ronaldinho (or someone like him, say Cassano) was the biggest reason of our loss yesterday. That and the injury to Pirlo. And the stupidity of Allegri. And Seedorf getting killed by Seedorf himself. And no KPB. And playing Silva in the mid. In fact, not going 4-2-1-3. If you have two mids available, play two. And maybe another few reasons. But the biggest problem was the terrible lack of creativity. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) We approached Spurs like they were Barca. And they approached us like we were Manchester. United, that is is. At the end of the day, it was an extremely cagey affair the first 45 minutes, things opened up after the second half. But we were worst off for it. Quote me on this. If only Cassano was not cup tied, then we could (have said) otherwise. At least the guy brings a new dynamic to this side. The big part is our main problem....Allegri lives and dies by whatever iBra can or can't produce......dumping Ronaldinho and the increasing marginalization of Pato is also a result of this. I totally agree that the midfield was the problem but surely if our attack has SOME however small degree of organization or even something resembling a game plan we'd have been able to overpower them......To suggest that we needed MORE to beat a Tottenham side without their most high profile player, missing their own best defender AND with Crouch, Modoric both carrying injures is laughable at best....But Allegri has inexplicably gained such a following for our being at the top of the table....which is again courtesy iBra that saying the aforementioned is considered blasphemy (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Feb 17 2011, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Feb 17 2011, 07:30 PM)  The big part is our main problem....Allegri lives and dies by whatever iBra can or can't produce......dumping Ronaldinho and the increasing marginalization of Pato is also a result of this. Nice to see another fellow member can see this. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) To what avail, is the question. This is Ibra's Milan. QUOTE (drucurl @ Feb 17 2011, 07:30 PM)  I totally agree that the midfield was the problem but surely if our attack has SOME however small degree of organization or even something resembling a game plan we'd have been able to overpower them......To suggest that we needed MORE to beat a Tottenham side without their most high profile player, missing their own best defender AND with Crouch, Modoric both carrying injures is laughable at best....But Allegri has inexplicably gained such a following for our being at the top of the table....which is again courtesy iBra that saying the aforementioned is considered blasphemy Well said again. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I don't consider it blasphemy. Depending on a single player, means risking all the clubs fortunes at his hands, if things work out for him, we will win. If he is not in the mood, or can't perform as required, the club goes down with him. Big clubs shouldn't work like that. It didn't work out well with Ronaldinho last season, and from the look of things it won't work out this year too. It was troubling to see the class and experience on display from Milan (on paper, at least), and we couldn't even take the game from its neck. The so-called kids at Arsenal showed how it is done. And they showed it a 100 times better. Props to them. They took Barca heads on and gave them a thorough look into the mirror. If we weren't winning near the close of the game, then maybe the brainiac known as Allegri could have gone in for a 0-0 result, and played it safe. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) Instead of committing all the men forward and risking a counter, that too with our slow CB combo at the back. No point in conceding an away goal, and that too to an English club. Always risky against EPL teams, they will kill you at the home leg.
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Feb 17 2011, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 17 2011, 04:48 PM)  Nice to see another fellow member can see this. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) To what avail, is the question. This is Ibra's Milan. Well said again. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I don't consider it blasphemy. Depending on a single player, means risking all the clubs fortunes at his hands, if things work out for him, we will win. If he is not in the mood, or can't perform as required, the club goes down with him. Big clubs shouldn't work like that. It didn't work out well with Ronaldinho last season, and from the look of things it won't work out this year too. It was troubling to see the class and experience on display from Milan (on paper, at least), and we couldn't even take the game from its neck. The so-called kids at Arsenal showed how it is done. And they showed it a 100 times better. Props to them. They took Barca heads on and gave them a thorough look into the mirror. If we weren't winning near the close of the game, then maybe the brainiac known as Allegri could have gone in for a 0-0 result, and played it safe. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) Instead of committing all the men forward and risking a counter, that too with our slow CB combo at the back. No point in conceding an away goal, and that too to an English club. Always risky against EPL teams, they will kill you at the home leg. If I recall correctly, "Kaka's Milan" won a Champions League in 2007. The loss to Tottenham was only due to lack of quality, especially in midfield. Had we played Pirlo and Boateng, things would have been different. Besides, if Allegri keeps playing zombies like Gattuso, Seedorf, Ambrosini etc. we'll never win against the big European sides. It might work in Serie A, but not in the Champions League.
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Feb 17 2011, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Feb 17 2011, 07:55 PM)  For the record I'm not a Ronaldinho fan...far from it...but I AM concerend that regardless of his so-called poor work ethic (which again to me seems exaggerated) Ronaldinho and to a smaller extent Pato HAVE THE ATTACKING TOOLS THAT MOST DON'T I have been saying this for a while now. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ronaldinho's salary was insane, and if he would have gone in at half that amount (and provided the coach still wanted to work it all out with him) he would have been here for another year or two. But now that is done and dusted, I am concerned about Pato, the kid should be playing CF now and Ibra should be behind him working out defense and giving him the final ball to slot in the net. Of course, none of this is happening. The injuries are not helping yes, but some things are still wrong. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2011, 07:57 PM)  If I recall correctly, "Kaka's Milan" won a Champions League in 2007. The loss to Tottenham was only due to lack of quality, especially in midfield. Had we played Pirlo and Boateng, things would have been different. Besides, if Allegri keeps playing zombies like Gattuso, Seedorf, Ambrosini etc. we'll never win against the big European sides. It might work in Serie A, but not in the Champions League. You can call it that, however I feel it was a team effort, with a select few players pulling up the most weight in our campaign. Kaka the most, I agree. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But Pirlo, Maldini and even Seedorf were vitally important too. But the thing is we were riding on the Kaka wagon, not throwing balls at him and asking him to do the magic (as is the case with Ibra now). I'd say it was a different and younger team then, so the dynamics were different. But I agree with the final part of your post, that the injuries came up at the worst possible time. You need a fast moving and dynamic team against most European sides, not just big ones. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) That, or an experienced, wily-old coach, who we don't have. But tell me, what better would have one goal at home in the last ten minutes been, that it was worth the risk of giving away an own goal? You did not score almost 90% of the match, now keep quite for the last ten, and save the embarrassment and pain of an away goal. Now Tottenham can play for the counter in their home and that will make things much more difficult for us.
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Feb 17 2011, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Feb 17 2011, 03:19 PM)  Without binho? For rest him or why? Because i dont see any other option. Or you are also an anti robinho fan? No, Robinho is a nice weapon to have, but I feel Pato should get the chance, while Cassano and Ibra are not players you can leave out. So at this point in time it's between the 2 Brazilians
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Feb 17 2011, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 17 2011, 04:05 PM)  I'd really like to see something like this against Chievo Abate--Thiago--Nesta--Antonini Van Bommel Flamini--Boateng Cassano Pato--Zlatan A lot of running and energy, Van Bommel the stable force to win the ball and play it forward. Cassano with a free role coming in and out of the center. Man, the trequartista spot is our weakest link. We've tried everyone this season, from Ronaldinho to Seedorf to Robinho to Boateng, and now Cassano. Apart from Seedorf, who's crap, none of the others are a real trequartista. Please Galliani, sign Ganso!!!
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Feb 17 2011, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 17 2011, 11:43 AM)  Man, the trequartista spot is our weakest link. We've tried everyone this season, from Ronaldinho to Seedorf to Robinho to Boateng, and now Cassano. Apart from Seedorf, who's crap, none of the others are a real trequartista. Please Galliani, sign Ganso!!! i've read his a deep lying Mid though
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