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Fillipo Simone
post Feb 16 2011, 10:17 PM
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Both formats have or had their positive and negative sides. The old format was charming in a way the glamurous gala of CL never could have achieved.

But I think the old format made all the World Cups and Euros more watchable, and the players were more fresher.
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:40 PM
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IMO Champions league should feature Champions only but as mentioed before that money talks ..
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:44 PM
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You all realize that this would mean Milan not winning their last two trophies?
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:47 PM
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Yes, but to counter that, we'd probably have an awful lot more league titles as we'd have to take it seriously every season.
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:50 PM
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Are we talking European Cup/CL, because the CL got restructured a few years ago. It used to be 2 group stages it was like playing in another domestic league.
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:55 PM
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The European Cup and Champions League didn't have the same format. European Cup was just a straight (2 legs) knockout competition. When it changed it's name, it's changed the fomrat to that horrific 2 group stage thing.
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2011, 09:55 PM) *
The European Cup and Champions League didn't have the same format. European Cup was just a straight (2 legs) knockout competition. When it changed it's name, it's changed the fomrat to that horrific 2 group stage thing.

No, no. I know that, it's just someone said something about our last 2 cups (but that was within different formats in the CL).

I wasn't sure if the discussion was the transition of European Cup to CL, or CL (old-format, 2 group stages) - CL (new format, 1 group stage).
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2011, 11:55 PM) *
The European Cup and Champions League didn't have the same format. European Cup was just a straight (2 legs) knockout competition. When it changed it's name, it's changed the fomrat to that horrific 2 group stage thing.


Oh come on, direct knockout stage would suck balls! Moreover, only domestic champions? Awful. Sorry, I already mentioned everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the old format doesn't appeal to me at all.
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:06 PM
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I wasn't sure if the discussion was the transition of European Cup to CL, or CL (old-format, 2 group stages) - CL (new format, 1 group stage).


Oh, I think that was reffering to us not winning the league the previous season - so by my logic we shouldn't have even been in the competition, which I stand by.

@X-Off: I just don't like the modern way of thinking in football. They just bring in new rules all the time to make it much easier for the top teams to succeed. The modern Champions League has killed football.

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post Feb 16 2011, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 16 2011, 10:06 PM) *
Oh, I think that was reffering to us not winning the league the previous season - so by my logic we shouldn't have even been in the competition, which I stand by.

@X-Off: I just don't like the modern way of thinking in football. They just bring in new rules all the time to make it much easier for the top teams to succeed. The modern Champions League has killed football.

plus sky tv has done it's best to!!
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:31 PM
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and the leagues should only feature one team... why should a 4th placed team have the chance to compete for the league the next season?
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post Feb 17 2011, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (mishie @ Feb 16 2011, 10:21 PM) *
plus sky tv has done it's best to!!

That's a myth mate. tv revenue is England is pretty evenly split for the most part. I think the difference last year between the biggest earner and lowest earner was about £5m. Whereas the CL gives 4 teams a ridiculous amount of money more than the other 16 EPL teams - as well as the ability to attract better players.


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and the leagues should only feature one team... why should a 4th placed team have the chance to compete for the league the next season?

Huh? I don't follow that logic.

The Champions of Europe should be the previous Champion of their own league. That's all I'm saying.
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post Feb 17 2011, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 17 2011, 01:00 AM) *
Huh? I don't follow that logic.

The Champions of Europe should be the previous Champion of their own league. That's all I'm saying.

I'm just saying there is no 'should'. In the end I agree with you (yay! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) that it'd be a greater competition if only the domestic champions entered where we disagree is that I still think it's great the way it is.
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post Feb 17 2011, 01:22 AM
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I don't think the CL is bad, it makes for some great football. But I think it is ultimately a detriment to football, certainly in England.
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post Feb 17 2011, 03:23 AM
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Play Merkel

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That all I´ll say.....
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