[drucurl]

It's really all just typical, Allegri's whole system revolved around waiting for Ibra to score then take off Seedorf at the 80th and put in Boateng, he's done this in every game, today things didn't go according to his liitle plan, and what does he do, keep waiting and waiting until the last minute to finally make the change!

Really fead up with his BS at this point!

Exactly. I've been saying for a long time at the other forum (just got banned there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) ) that Allegri mightn't be quite the saviour we expect. He seems no have no ideas about the offense. People day "omg dru you're such a drama queen....we're on top" etc. But I fear we're on top in spite of him and not because of him.

He CLEARLY doesn't like Ronaldinho who possibly deserves it due to the stunts he's pulled. However this was a match where his services were sorely needed. Also I don't think he likes Pato too much either. Gut feeling no real proof yet.

[Dracoris]

I'm ok with Seedorf starting, he hasn't played horrible. BUT Allegri must realize Seedorf along with Gattuso runs out of gas around the 60'min every game without fail, its like clockwork. If he wants to play our older players he must sub them accordingly, which is why we basically lost this game especially if Roma, Inter, and Lazio win this weekend.

[Zed.D]

I am absolutely baffled...

What the **** is the point of making 2 tactical substitutions in the freakin 90th minute when clearly something hasn't been working on the pitch for most of the game and you need to score a goal!? was Max high on LSD or something?! he was way too relaxed.

We really needed more force up front but Max acted too late. I think we could've won. my ratings says all there is to say about what I think of each player:

(out of 4):

Abbiati 3 > really saved our **** with that save.
Nesta 2.5 > was he exhausted? was he not interested? he was clearly at fault on Samp's goal.
Silva 3 > fantastically solid. along with Binho, MotM.
Abate 1.5 > can't cross or do something useful in attack if his life depended on it, and generally isn't a great defender either. tbh, I don't know what his role was or what he's doing at this club.
Bonera 2 > much better than Abate. was involved in some of our attacks through the left where he doesn't usually play.
Ambro 2 > he'd been great since he'd come back, but tonight gave away the ball, like, countless times. poor showing.
Rino 1.5 > honestly, he shouldn't be allowed near the opposition box. he's an apology for a footballer player up there. wasn't terrible at doing his defensive duties but that's not what you expect from a Milan midfielder.
KPB 1.5 > I wish Mathieu had started instead of him. hugely disappointing.
Seedorf 2.5 > I was satisfied with him until he blew up that great chance. you expect more from an experienced player like him.
Ibra 1.5 > tbh, I don't recall anything noteworthy from Ibra beside his assist. but he's been on the verge of passing out these last games so...
Robinho 3 > he wasn't flawless and had his share of careless passes, but was by far and away the most creative Milan player tonight. shame he couldn't win us the game. along with Silva, MotM.

Flamini and Dinho NA.

Max 1 > he's found a formation that wins us points, but really needs to do something about his subs (or reluctant to make any).

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 27 2010, 08:34 PM

[Dracoris]

Thought you guys might enjoy some of the comments on goal.com's comments section for their review of the game:

"i know alot of ppl are thinking we are in first so this is good but allegri should get no credit cuz of games like this. who waits until the 90th min to make subs when the game has been tied at 1-1 for over half an hour?"

"What is wrong with you allegri? A child can pick a better 11 than you? I'm getting sick of you as you always play Sedorf ! HE'S OVER IT ! You have Ronaldinho on the bench and you play Sedorf ? You play with bonera on DL ? I'm a big big Milan fan and i loved watching football games of them last year ! If Leonardo hat Ibra and Robinho he would wonn all... He didn't have luck that's all! But you're a bad bad coach and i can't wait you're sacked"

"wat the hell do expect ronaldinho to do at 90 minutes stupid allegri, put seedorf for first half and ronaldinho for second half, its not that hard"

"is there anyone we can send a petition to berlusconi outlining how tactically incapable allegri is?"

"flop of the match = allegri"

"89th minute and STILL no subs from Allegri..WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE!?!??!?!?!"


We're not alone in our complaints.

This post has been edited by Dracoris: Nov 27 2010, 08:38 PM

[William405]

Zed:I disagree with everything you said about Abate,he was solid.
I wonder if we are watching the same match.
Ambrosini was the best player out there,and I don't know how Seedorf got a 2.5 in your ratings.

I disagree with all of your ratings sadly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Zed.D]

I am going to buy Allegri a new watch for Xmas as he is obviously 15-20 minutes BEHIND THE REST OF THE WORLD FFS!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)

Maybe Allegri needs to join MilanFan so we can help him out a little. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It takes something like these two comments to make me smile after a game like this...

[Zed.D]

Zed:I disagree with everything you said about Abate,he was solid.
I wonder if we are watching the same match.
Ambrosini was the best player out there,and I don't know how Seedorf got a 2.5 in your ratings.

I disagree with all of your ratings sadly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I know for a fact that Ambro lost the ball at least 10 times so how could he be amazing and our best player is beyond me.

Abate was solid?! really? did he manage to make just 1 proper cross. tell me!! playing in a range of 40 meters in the middle of the right side of the pitch and being OK at it isn't that big a deal. one of the reasons we've sucked balls for some years now is our lack of capable FBs. Abate is not Milan XI quality.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 27 2010, 08:57 PM

[han2503]

@ zeddie, regarding Ambro, I agree with Willie here, Ambro along with Thiago and Robs was one of our best players

As for Abate, I personally think he was good, while you mentioned that you were happy with Bonera, who imo, completely messed up the offside trap on Samp's goal and shouldn't be playing at LB

[William405]

I know for a fact that Ambro lost the ball at least 10 times so how could he be amazing and our best player is beyond me.

Abate was solid?! really? did he manage to make just 1 proper cross. tell me!! playing in a range of 40 meters in the middle of the right side of the pitch and being OK at it isn't that big a deal. one of the reasons we've sucked balls for some years now is our lack of capable FBs. Abate is not Milan XI quality.

We all know that m8,but he was our only option,and he has lots of room for improvement.He helped nesta on a few defensive hick ups,and didn't really have any trouble in defense.He also had like 2 great runs forward.

[Lumeci]

Massimiliano Allegri has given Sampdoria credit for the result, while Giampaolo Pazzini was very impressed with Milan.

“The performance from my lads was excellent and I am happy, then a draw is acceptable in football,” said the Coach after a 1-1 at Marassi.


“We wanted to win this game, but Samp made it impossible for us. Robinho is doing very well and is now starting to score important goals.


“I’d like to say these great performances are down to the whole team, which is extremely motivated.”


Pazzini cancelled out Robinho’s opener to follow up from his hat-trick last week.


“The hunger and determination allowed us to play a great game,” said the Sampdoria striker.


“We are happy with this point, which gives us confidence going forward. That is also true on a personal level with my goal.


“I have to say, Milan impressed me this evening.”
footballitalia

is alegri normal human or he is so ignorant he never takes the blame he is fackinig ridicoulus, look at fans reaction and look at his speech its totally diferent its likethere were two different games, I hope berlu interupts here couse I think we wont win anymore games from now on

[acid911]

Well I won't talk about the match in general. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The players however will be discussed indirectly. I usually agree with almost all of what you say, Zed.D, but I can't get myself to agree with half of the rankings. Let's see here:

Abbiati: The reason we went a goal down. This thug seriously needs to get his act together or get ready to warm the bench. He makes good (even great) saves, and has been on form I give him that, but his habit of throwing the ball at the opposition team's feet is really creeping me out. He has been doing this consistently for a while now, and even today he stupidly gave or kicked the ball at a Sampdoria player. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Today he kicked the ball with eyes closed, it ended up outside, throw in, Nesta got under pressure while covering, gave away the corner, and they score. Sampdoria are the "King of Draws", the 1-1 was incoming all through the second half.

Nesta: Not his usual self, but a Nesta on his bad day is still worth half a dozen other defenders.

Abate: He did what he could, and did great. Probably not "Man of the match" but darn near close. I get what you guys say that his crossing is literally nil, but the guy has pace, and he made more than one good tackle while defending. Vital tackles, even. He is not Milan starting material, but then neither is Antonini, neither is half the squad for Pete's sake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) But if he keeps it up like this, and keeps on improving, I'll have him on the bench at least at all time. Remember he had both CRON and ETO in his pocket two consecutive matches.

Bonera: This sucker was another reason for the goal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There is a thing called offside trap, Bon!

KPB: Probably the only major club this guy will get playing time in is Milan. Mediocre at best, another one in the Antonini/Abate/Bonera category. Brings lots of promise, under delivers. I have been saying this for time now, there is nothing special I have seen from him once. Lots of quantity (and heart), little quality (and results). I can't believe Flamini did not get the nod ahead of Flamini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Having said that we do not have other options, so Kevin will do. For now. Just have him with Flam or on the bench otherwise.

Seedorf: This guy does not deserve talking about more than a sentence. R80 (for all his flaws) did more in the 3 minutes than this so-called genius in the whole 90. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) Nice way to fool people into believing you are a vital and integral senior of the squad. Missed a good chance, okay, no worries. But when you have Ambro putting in more effort and killer passes than your team's #10 then there is a major cause for concern. For all it's worth, I just hope both him and R80 were no where near this team - we need someone else here as our creative center.

Ibra: Having fun, are we? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Did good with the assist, but had no business starting (or even playing) this match. Luckily or unluckily, Allegri never heard about the word "Rotation". So unless things change, Ibra's bad days are gonna be Milan's bad day, and his good ones are gonna results in 3 points, more often than not.

Allegri: The coach gets a 1 for showing up and yelling at players. Out of 10 that is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Seriously, two players who should have started get in after the 90th minute mark? Allegri better learn his subs, or he's gonna get subbed himself sooner than he knows what hit him. It's okay that we are still first, how much is that because of the coach is up for debate, but most of time we should be subbing our worst player on the pitch on the 45th, throw in another tactical change at 60th (depending on the state of the match), and try and slot in an absolute youngster in the 80th, give them a chance to gel with the main squad for ten or so minutes every match. Every match. There are certain exceptions, injuries and all, but that IMO should be the base template of substitutions.

I can type more, but the rest of the team put in an okay effort, considering we are without Pato, Pirlo, Inzaghi, have Bonera at the flanks, a virtually dead (killed?) Ronaldinho, and Gattuso who's starting ahead of Flamini day in and day out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) And oh, a coach who Not happy with the result, but can't say we deserved any better.

Justice is served. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) Enjoy the pies, guys!

[han2503]

Fact here is, the Scudetto has suddenly become ours to lose at this point, Inter are terrible, Juve and Roma are there but in the long haul their presence as contenders isquestionable. From now until the break we'll have matches that could potentially make or break our season.

Samp weren't anything special, they just took their chance, something other teams haven't been doing, we have been struggling to score goals since this "genius" system was put in place by Allegri, our entire system revolves around Ibra. And next week, if we don't win Our lead could be cut by 5 points just like that, Inter won't keep dropping points.

Now let's watch Allegri keep fielding a 3 DM midfield or benching Flamini to play the listless Rino, or let's continue watching him running Seedorf and Ibra into the ground because he's too chicken sh!t to rotate or at least make a substitution during a match

[Zed.D]

I don't know why everyone is blaming Bonera for the goal. offside trap on a corner kick? please... it was Nesta's fault for letting Palombo (?) easily get the ball to Pazzini to tap in. look at the goal once again, Nesta didn't even jump for the ball, or couldn't, which either way is his fault. I'm surprised no one even mentions that and blames Bonera instead.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 27 2010, 09:56 PM

[acid911]

I did Zed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Abbiati culprit number one, then Nesta, and the third one is Bonera. He was just late to react, and while not at fault directly, some quick thinking and reflexes could (or could not, if the linesman had other ideas) have saved the goal.

But really the goalkeeper is the first to be blamed, he put undue pressure on Nesta. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) It really wasn't necessary, a good clearance and we would not even be talking about the goal. Abbiati made an absolutely world class save (he had too, every GK must), but his brain-dead moments have cost us goals and points for the past two seasons at least. I really want him to figure this bit out.

[Zed.D]

As for Abate, I never said he's bad. I said can't cross which is true, and isn't a great defender, which is again true! maybe for you guys not being bad = good. but not for me. one of the reasons we were outnumbered in attack is because our full backs, both Abate and to a lesser extent Bonera, are not capable of joining the attacks and being good at it (a la Maicons and Alveses and Ramoses of this world). we really need someone like Coentrao in January and another good RB in the summer.