[han2503]

Again, you're being just rediculous! I mean, do you belive Pippo would have been that immortal, that kind of a record-breaker if he'd score 2 goals in 15 chances? You totally exaggerated this so-called missing of chances. And btw. Ibrahimovic also nets every 5th or 6th chance he gets. Why not start Pippo-Pato then.
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But really. Let's say it once more plainly: Ibra scored in the last 4 matches 2 goals, Pato scored zero and Pippo 2. Let's give Inzaghi the chance.

I think you're thinking about a different Pippo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Pippo didn't break that record in the last 3 seasons. Most of those goals came when he was absolutely lethal. The chance of Pippo missing a sitter back then was zero to null. The Pippo of these past few seasons has been missing 9 chances out of the 10 he gets. And it's not something I'm making up in my head, it's actual facts.

Also I didn't say I was happy with Ibra either but it seems like he's untouchable to Allegri (I think he's afraid of him more then anything else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) so what's the point of saying I want a Pippo Pato partnership upfront when that's not going to happen?

Again you're giving me Pato's record of his last 2 games, but point out to me one scenario where Pato actually got a decent chance in either one of those games, while Ibra has been mishitting most of them

[X-Offender]

han, I believe you're thinking too much about this. We're only playing Bari, and it's not a tragedy if Pippo starts in at least one game. It's not like he will be a sure starer from now on. Cause even if bonehead Allegri wanted that, Inzaghi simply can't play every three days. He said it, Galliani said it, the guy's 37 after all.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, he's had not many chances, but for god sake, he's a striker! And not 2 last matches, but 4. I just think the bench will do good to the boy. This has been an awfull year so far for him - divorce, Ronaldinho parties, not called up by a moron coach to the world cup, playing dispositioned by another stupid coach, still recovering from a good but seasons marked by injuries...I understand it perfectly. I don't attack the kid, nor do I say he deserves to be crossed off! I just think that a player like Fillipo Inzaghi deserves to start from time to time against the Bari's of Serie A. He deserves it, it will benefit Pippo as well as Pato.

[han2503]

han, I believe you're thinking too much about this. We're only playing Bari, and it's not a tragedy if Pippo starts in at least one game. It's not like he will be a sure starer from now on. Cause even if bonehead Allegri wanted that, Inzaghi simply can't play every three days. He said it, Galliani said it, the guy's 37 after all.

I'm not worried about that, I'm worried about the game in general and the one coming after it. We need these 3 points, anything less will put us into further problems. I'm worried about the team that's going to go out there

Rino--Seedorf--Ambro
Robinho
Ibra--Pippo

I can't see us creating more then 6 chances with that line-up, and with Ibra shooting blanks and Pippo's huge potential to shoot blanks, I'm worried big time about it.

Yes, he's had not many chances, but for god sake, he's a striker! And not 2 last matches, but 4. I just think the bench will do good to the boy. This has been an awfull year so far for him - divorce, Ronaldinho parties, not called up by a moron coach to the world cup, playing dispositioned by another stupid coach, still recovering from a good but seasons marked by injuries...I understand it perfectly. I don't attack the kid, nor do I say he deserves to be crossed off! I just think that a player like Fillipo Inzaghi deserves to start from time to time against the Bari's of Serie A. He deserves it, it will benefit Pippo as well as Pato.

We'll see... I'm not going to try and argue this anymore, I've stated what my concerns are with this above.

If we're really struggling Dinho/Pato/Pirlo can all step in. Problem is Allegri takes so long to react that he'd probably put them in at the 80th (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[X-Offender]

Rino--Seedorf--Ambro
Robinho
Ibra--Pippo

If we played Flamini over Rino, and let both him and Ambro do the defensive work, I can see Seedorf, Robinho and Ibra managing just fine against the crap Bari defense, which is the worse of Serie A so far. I just don't want three over 30 in midfield, thus Rino must go out.

[Ry4n]

Again, you're being just rediculous! I mean, do you belive Pippo would have been that immortal, that kind of a record-breaker if he'd score 2 goals in 15 chances? You totally exaggerated this so-called missing of chances. And btw. Ibrahimovic also nets every 5th or 6th chance he gets. Why not start Pippo-Pato then.
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But really. Let's say it once more plainly: Ibra scored in the last 4 matches 2 goals, Pato scored zero and Pippo 2. Let's give Inzaghi the chance.

+100

[Coldest]

I'll burst out laughing if we play Pippo, Pato and Ibra as we did at the end of Madrid's game... Anyway, I can't see why Binho should have an edge over Dinho in starting 11 for today's game.

[han2503]

I'll burst out laughing if we play Pippo, Pato and Ibra as we did at the end of Madrid's game... Anyway, I can't see why Binho should have an edge over Dinho in starting 11 for today's game.

Well I'm fine with both. I'm more worried about how Allegri will play them.

Robinho was cr@p against Juve while Dinho was even more cr@p agains Real. Why? Because Allegri was trying to wedge both of them into wrong positions. I saw Robs trying to adjust in the hole against Juve while Dinho very high up on the left against Real.

I'm mostly worried about the 3 in midfield.

@ X-off I don't really think the Flamini--Seedorf--Ambro mid will be that much of a difference. Don't forget that Robinho will try to drift from center to wide. Essesntially Seedorf is the one with all the creative responsabilities. Also you say Bari are the worst defence in the league, I see us making a meal out of this game like we usually do when it's supposed to be easy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) even more so now that we have a real chance this weekend to go ahead of Inter again and Lazio can lose points easily as well

[William405]

Too bad Roma Derby is in the same time as the Milan match,and also Liverpool vs Chelsea is after an hour.

[X-Offender]

I'll burst out laughing if we play Pippo, Pato and Ibra as we did at the end of Madrid's game... Anyway, I can't see why Binho should have an edge over Dinho in starting 11 for today's game.

Because Robinho is a 26-year-old, healthy footballer willing to make a difference? Can't say the same thing about Ronaldinho.

[William405]

Meh,Robinho should only be played as a striker,that's what he's best at.

[X-Offender]

Another probable-line up according to TMW:

Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Yepes, Zambrotta; Ambrosini, Gattuso, Flamini; Seedorf; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.

[Zed.D]

Yes, he's had not many chances, but for god sake, he's a striker! And not 2 last matches, but 4. I just think the bench will do good to the boy. This has been an awfull year so far for him - divorce, Ronaldinho parties, not called up by a moron coach to the world cup, playing dispositioned by another stupid coach, still recovering from a good but seasons marked by injuries...I understand it perfectly. I don't attack the kid, nor do I say he deserves to be crossed off! I just think that a player like Fillipo Inzaghi deserves to start from time to time against the Bari's of Serie A. He deserves it, it will benefit Pippo as well as Pato.

I don't think any of those you mentioned is Pato's problem. he's just being playied in the wrong position, that's all. put him in the CF and let others create chances for him and see how the goals will come again.

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't think any of those you mentioned is Pato's problem. he's just being playied in the wrong position, that's all. put him in the CF and let others create chances for him and see how the goals will come again.

Read better next time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yes, he's had not many chances, but for god sake, he's a striker! And not 2 last matches, but 4. I just think the bench will do good to the boy. This has been an awfull year so far for him - divorce, Ronaldinho parties, not called up by a moron coach to the world cup, playing dispositioned by another stupid coach, still recovering from a good but seasons marked by injuries...I understand it perfectly. I don't attack the kid, nor do I say he deserves to be crossed off! I just think that a player like Fillipo Inzaghi deserves to start from time to time against the Bari's of Serie A. He deserves it, it will benefit Pippo as well as Pato.

[Zed.D]

I saw that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) what I'm saying is that it's irrelevant to mention his relationships, world cup snub etc etc like they are reasons behind his performances. I don't think he's really out of form tbh. he's just proving he's not made to be a winger (no matter how some of us like to think he is). he's a pure striker, a finisher.

EDIT: that bolded part doesn't mean he depends entirely on his teammates to create chances for him, though. that'd be Pippo/RvN types of players. he's more similar to Ronaldo de Lima or those kinds of strikers.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 7 2010, 02:33 PM