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 Jan 22 2009, 12:58 PM
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Token Girl  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800  |
Here is Gazzetta's projected lineup:
Abbiati Antonini Favalli Maldini Zambrotta Beckham Pirlo Ambrosini Kakà Seedorf Pato Pirlo and Bonera are both 1 yellow away from suspension. Given that the return leg of the derby is 3 matches away, wouldn't mind one of them (especially Pirlo) picking up the yellow now so there aren't any worries about them playing against the cugini. |
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Jan 22 2009, 01:06 PM
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Berretti  Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 22 2009, 04:25 PM)  Well okay .. You don't need me to convince you otherwise, but when Carlo brought Zambrotta in from Bari, he applied the same meathod, he made a left fullback play on the right. And Zambrotta was just reaching recognition at the time, and today can play equally well both at right back and left back. I can see the same meathod being applied to Antonini ... Is it ridiculous ? I don't think so, cuz there might be something behind the curtains, Antonini could very well turn out to be a great option both for the left back slot and right back. As of now, the player has been doing better on the left, but with time you never know You know, you may actually have a point here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Good post. |
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Jan 22 2009, 01:33 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 22 2009, 09:05 AM) Top of my head- Crespo(21-22 yrs), Pirlo(22-23 yrs) and Pato (19 yrs) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) O.K you can scratch Pato off the list if you want. Crespo was at Parma, when you're at that kind of club you really can't pick and choose. And Crespo was already pretty established at the time even though he was young. Pirlo was only a flop at Inter he had already beun playing the DM role at Brescia when there was Baggio. He was a very highly regarded young Italian player that went to Inter, where they always have 2 big players for each position, so it would be obvious he would fail there playing in attacking mid position, the same thing happened to Seedorf there and he was already a big player that won 2 CL. Sure Carlo gave him another chance playing in the position he's most comfortable in. But at that time Milan was being rebuilt, Carlo's Milan was being built, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Rui, Pippo, all these players were either brought in the season Carlo came or the season before that so all were relatively new faces. And Pato is a different thing all together, Milan paid big money (for a 19 year old who had only played a handful of time in Brazil) for him, Carlo couldn't not play him. We also were bare in the striking department, Gila was shooting blanks, Pippo and Ronaldo were both always injured. Had the situations been different like for example Sheva was still there scoring goals, and Gila also, Pato wouldn't have gotten a look in. He barely got a look in last season when Pippo was fit. QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 22 2009, 12:25 PM) Well okay .. You don't need me to convince you otherwise, but when Carlo brought Zambrotta in from Bari, he applied the same meathod, he made a left fullback play on the right. And Zambrotta was just reaching recognition at the time, and today can play equally well both at right back and left back. I can see the same meathod being applied to Antonini ... Is it ridiculous ? I don't think so, cuz there might be something behind the curtains, Antonini could very well turn out to be a great option both for the left back slot and right back. As of now, the player has been doing better on the left, but with time you never know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Antoni has a really weak right foot, every cross he makes is either over hit or under hit, he makes defensive mistakes that he doesn't do on the left when he's playing on the right. Zambrotta, really established himself as a left fullback under Lippi. And I think he's equally good on both sides, it's not Zambro that bothers me playing on his weak side, it's Antonini, he's 50% less effective on that side. There is no justifying this decision, you have a fullback that is good on both sides, but one is not on his weak side, so why play him there??? I know sometimes it's more of a forced choice on Carlo because of the brilliant idea we had to loan Oddo, but when both Zambro and Antonini are playing there is no reason why Carlo should play them in their weaker positions. |
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Jan 22 2009, 01:36 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Antonini is a second string player anyway. He's mediocre on the left and he will never be more than that on the right.
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Jan 22 2009, 01:55 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Dude you've got to stop comparing every LB in existence to Paolo and Carlos ok? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jan 22 2009, 03:13 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 22 2009, 01:36 PM) Antonini is a second string player anyway. He's mediocre on the left and he will never be more than that on the right. True, but why give that player an even harder time playing him in a position where he is clearly uncomfortable playing? |
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Jan 22 2009, 03:32 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 399 Joined: 20-January 09 Member No.: 6,161 |
I think that players like jankulovski mustn't play in a team like milan, he is defensivly like crap (vucinic played with him and many more, Juventus match, same story ecc ecc), he is good in his offensive dutys but deffensively he is a crap and he can't play in the likes which want's to become the best team in the world. Favalli, same story (exepting the offensive part). So we have a defensive problem, and i think we must tray to put bonera, antonini and mattioni in fire, so we can have best players in the future, becouse they can't be worst than jankulovski, favalli and so on. So my team for this mach would be:
Abiati Mattioni(antonini) Bonnera Maldini Zambrotta Flamini (ambrosini) Beckham Pirlo Kaka Ronaldinho Pato |
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Jan 22 2009, 03:40 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Welcome?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 22 2009, 03:47 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 399 Joined: 20-January 09 Member No.: 6,161 |
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 22 2009, 03:40 PM) Welcome?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) thx m8! |
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Jan 22 2009, 04:01 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Today's practice has taken place.
Most of the players who took part in yesterday's friendly did work in the gym. The others had an intense workout with drills and attack v defense exercises. There was special attention paid to crosses and shots on goal. Borriello took part in part of the training with the team (not sure if it was workout or the attack v defense). Kaladze did some running. Alessandro Nesta returned to Milanello, was welcomed home by his teammates, and did a series of tests. |
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Jan 22 2009, 04:05 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Beckham playing obviously has to do with matters other than his fitness and abilities. He does bring motivation to the team though and we desperately need that.
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Jan 22 2009, 04:35 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 22 2009, 05:01 PM) There was special attention paid to crosses and shots on goal. We practice shooting? Then how come we never shoot in games? |
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Jan 22 2009, 05:09 PM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 94 Joined: 29-October 05 Member No.: 778 |
Has Kaka ever had captain's armband throughout his career at Milan?
I Think it would be allright to give him an armband only once for this game, to somehow thank him |
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Jan 22 2009, 05:13 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
To thank him? Oy.
No, he's not worn the armband. The order of precedence is (off the top of my head) Maldini Ambrosini Gattuso Kaladze (Shevchenko, if you dont count the 2 years at Chelsea) Pirlo Inzaghi Nesta Kaka |
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Jan 22 2009, 07:04 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 22 2009, 04:13 PM) To thank him? Oy. No, he's not worn the armband. The order of precedence is (off the top of my head) Maldini Ambrosini Gattuso Kaladze (Shevchenko, if you dont count the 2 years at Chelsea) Pirlo Inzaghi Nesta Kaka kaladze (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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