[Rossoneri7]

I think among all the self financing clubs we shall be top of the heap. But no self-financing club can ever compete with bankrolled clubs.

I think it's about time clubs like Milan, Barca, Juve, United, Munich all put their weight behind FIFA and introduced that damn salary cap. That to me, seems like the only thing that will restore sanity.

The salary cap must be fixed appropriate to the club's standings and earnings (from competition only, otherwise EPL will walk over others again!), this along with a fixed debt to asset ratio.

Thats the only solution to the assults on clubs .. Such as the one Milan had kneel down to.


I have to agree with you Jack on the previous post too, seeing as IF Milan plan to push the offer aside, then Kaka's wages must match that of what is being offered by City. In turn, this will mean the club needs financing to increase, the already high, salary cap once again to accomidate for stars like Ronaldinho, Pirlo, Pato when he reaches stardom and whoever comes in there on.

Meaning, Milan will be more of a liability than an asset, in which case Silvio - Fininvest - is better off selling the club. But to whom ?! Who in today's current market conditions has the spare cash to buy a football club ? That is at the end of the year not generating as much cash flow and is not as lucrative, when paired to any other business (Telecom, etc). Its a matter of simple economics really, not rocket science.

Thinking about it logically, Milan has to accept 100+MM for the player, if they don't, they risk loosing him to the next in line who might offer a much lesser amount to the club; seeing as the assulting club will also use the same tactic and bump up the players wages as well .. Bottom line is, in both cases Kaka' along with his agent will demand that the wages be meet or else he's out!

In the end, its down to Kaka's sentiments. If he has any, he will accept his current pay and stay. If not, well then we know how much sentiments weight for him.


p.s. Though I agree with EVERYONE here, that Kaka' is the flag bearer of Milan and his influence to the team can not be measured by any amount of money, and that is because our hearts believe it to be true. Then again, if we think with our heads and not our hearts, we can understand that during this recession, huge conglomerates are cutting off and selling their assets to stay afloat, hence how is a football club in an economy like Italy, who has fallen into a recession even before the credit crunch not dommed fail for keeping a hold of Kaka' !?

What the hell does a global recession have to do with loosing Kaka' ? Well, ok, keep Kaka', but increase his salary to 18MM per yr, then do the same for the stars in the squad, increasing all of them accordingly so as to maintain the balance in wages. By the time the club needs to settle its debts and creditors, it wont have much cashflow, obviously because the bigger portion of its income had gone to the increase in wage cost .. You then have Silvio - Fininvest - reconsidering how much of a liability the club is and if its worth holding on to; either pour more cash into the club or put it up for sale ... In which case, who will buy ? Do you guys want a Saudi owner ? or an American ? Of whom, will most definitely not give their heart as Silvio had.

[han2503]

I think among all the self financing clubs we shall be top of the heap. But no self-financing club can ever compete with bankrolled clubs.

I think it's about time clubs like Milan, Barca, Juve, United, Munich all put their weight behind FIFA and introduced that damn salary cap. That to me, seems like the only thing that will restore sanity.

The salary cap must be fixed appropriate to the club's standings and earnings (from competition only, otherwise EPL will walk over others again!), this along with a fixed debt to asset ratio.

It's not only the salary caps. I think club's debts should be looked into when they are making huge offers like the ones Man City and Chelsea (used) to make. For example, should Roman Abramovic suddenly decide to pull out of Chelsea they will sink faster then the titanic. They have an astrnomical depth. To allow clubs like Man U Chelsea and so on who have these depts to spend the ammount of money they do on transfers is what upsets the balance.

Sure we could do it ourselves, but our management choose not to that's why we're more shrewed then other clubs. Not to mention our owner not willing to spend the money like Moratti or Abramovic.

[Tennie]

So about Diego. Whoever buys him from Bremen is going to need to throw in a chauffeur. He was recently pulled over and was found to be driving drunk. He got a fine and had his driver's license pulled.

[han2503]

So about Diego. Whoever buys him from Bremen is going to need to throw in a chauffeur. He was recently pulled over and was found to be driving drunk. He got a fine and had his driver's license pulled.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Idiot...

[han2503]

Talking about Diego, since we seem to be going after every Juve target (Flamini, Mattioni) why not go after this one as well?

Sure he's not of Kaka's quality but who is?

[Zed.D]

@ Rossoneri7

And who says IF Milan plan to push the offer aside, then Kaka's wages must match that of what is being offered by City?!.. please stop that. obviously you know a thing or two about the economic side of football but that doesn't mean others are entirely unaware of what's going on.

Kaka right now is one of the best payed players in the world [I think he's one of the top 5], and last time I checked, he didn't request a 15-18 million a year salary from Milan (nor did he request a transfer to a relegation battling side). that's City's offer. what do you mean "Milan MUST match it"?! what's the point of making it look like Kaka wants 15-18 million a year from Milan when EVERYONE [including Kaka] knows Milan cannot afford to pay that much money to its player? what if in the end it turned out that Kaka had no intention of more money and was alright with the fact that he earns as much as C.Ronaldo, Zlatan, etc.?!

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Jan 19 2009, 06:56 PM

[CrazyMilanFan]

i think we should get G.ROSSI if kaka leaves he is itlain young I always liked him and heard that he is a milan fan aswell he can play both AMF and CF roles

[Bluesummers]

R7


It doesn't matter about his wanting more money etc etc. The fact that we even opened up negotiations with Manchester city when we have rejected even talks with real madrid shows who we really are.

We wouldn't let kaka leave to madrid before and we told him its because hes family etc etc.... now city come with 100 mil and that sh!t doesnt matter anymore?

Who is to blame?

[Tennie]

Well, if his agent demands a raise every tiem another club makes a bid...I'm not entirely sure all the blame falls on Milan. There has to be a limit.

[Bluesummers]

Well, if his agent demands a raise every tiem another club makes a bid...I'm not entirely sure all the blame falls on Milan. There has to be a limit.

Its not like ricky would say oh your not paying me then i'm out peace. We are a club afterall and i really dont think hes that kind of person. F*** his agent/father whatever. He has no say in this. Its between kaka and milan.

[CrazyMilanFan]

kaka aleady earn more than double than the secnd highest paid players r80 and that is what silvio said that milan cant offer anymore wages while man city are...... the wages debate is important bcoz we not only get money from his sales but wages of about 2-3 current or future players

[Tennie]

Actually, his agent has rather a lot of say in things, blue. I'm not happy about it either, but that's the way it is.

[Bluesummers]

kaka aleady earn more than double than the secnd highest paid players r80 and that is what silvio said that milan cant offer anymore wages while man city are...... the wages debate is important bcoz we not only get money from his sales but wages of about 2-3 current or future players

So if it was about maldini would you be okay with it? Just wondering...because kaka right now is pretty much what maldini was at age 28+

[Bluesummers]

Actually, his agent has rather a lot of say in things, blue. I'm not happy about it either, but that's the way it is.

its just not fair. Its just unreasonable! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Tennie]

Maldini never earned more than double any other player on the squad, blue.