[Jack Sparrow]

Maldini can play LB, sure. I'd rather see him in the center and Kaladze on the left though if we must play that back line (I'd bench Kaladze and play Sergio).

I think we've got on this board a real difference in philosophy and outlook. There are the oldtimers (like me and R7) who have followed Milan for as long as (if not longer than) a good percentage of other posters have been alive. We see things differently than the very enthusiastic young fans do. I think R7 and I would agree that Milan is more than just football. There's a certain class about Milan - even when the team is doing poorly like now - that just is not present at any other team. Milan is also not a team that's going to go for the instant gratification 'we want a title now and we're going to spend a zillion euros to do it' sort of team like Chelsea is. If that's the team you want to follow, then I suggest Milan may not be right for you. Milan takes the long view (ie, PATO). And Milan so far hasn't been proved long in the long view.

That's why it bothers us oldtimers (and makes me want to reach for my fish woobie to hit people with) when there's a constant barrage of team-bashing and general wailing and gnashing of teeth. There's a difference between constructive criticism and 'zomg, they all suck'. The former, I'm all in favor of. The latter - which is all too common right now - I don't bother reading.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It's been ages, since I had the opportunity to say, what was once my catch phrase.

What 10ster said...exactly what she said!!!

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Nov 5 2007, 06:20 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Maldini can play LB, sure. I'd rather see him in the center and Kaladze on the left though if we must play that back line (I'd bench Kaladze and play Sergio).

I think we've got on this board a real difference in philosophy and outlook. There are the oldtimers (like me and R7) who have followed Milan for as long as (if not longer than) a good percentage of other posters have been alive. We see things differently than the very enthusiastic young fans do. I think R7 and I would agree that Milan is more than just football. There's a certain class about Milan - even when the team is doing poorly like now - that just is not present at any other team. Milan is also not a team that's going to go for the instant gratification 'we want a title now and we're going to spend a zillion euros to do it' sort of team like Chelsea is. If that's the team you want to follow, then I suggest Milan may not be right for you. Milan takes the long view (ie, PATO). And Milan so far hasn't been proved long in the long view.

That's why it bothers us oldtimers (and makes me want to reach for my fish woobie to hit people with) when there's a constant barrage of team-bashing and general wailing and gnashing of teeth. There's a difference between constructive criticism and 'zomg, they all suck'. The former, I'm all in favor of. The latter - which is all too common right now - I don't bother reading.

Will you marry me (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Inspite of the fish???

Or because of it???

Oh wait aren't you both from Washington??

[kurtsimonw]

Don't let me hold you back (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Go right ahead, but when this very team comes back with the CL trophy and CWC, I would expect ur hypocritical tendencies to react again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It's not being hypocritical.

If we have a bad game, I'm not going to just be "Oh well, you win some, you lose some." To me that's just not passionate, it doesn't even sound like I care. I'm obviously going to be annoted and angry.

When we win, of course I'm going to celebrate and be happy. It's not being a hypocrite, that's football.

And no R7, I'm not accusing you not caring. I think it's clear to us all that you do.

@Jack - irksome - What the hell is that? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

It's not being hypocritical.

If we have a bad game, I'm not going to just be "Oh well, you win some, you lose some." To me that's just not passionate, it doesn't even sound like I care. I'm obviously going to be annoted and angry.

When we win, of course I'm going to celebrate and be happy. It's not being a hypocrite, that's football.

And no R7, I'm not accusing you not caring. I think it's clear to us all that you do.

@Jack - irksome - What the hell is that?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

How the F would I know. You people invented the freaking language. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You could ask BMW. With R7 doing a 'Suazo' to me as regards Tennie, I'm putting these kinda words in hoping the hot artist chick will notice.

[kurtsimonw]

How the F would I know. You people invented the freaking language. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You could ask BMW. With R7 doing a 'Suazo' to me as regards Tennie, I'm putting these kinda words in hoping the hot artist chick will notice.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Good luck with that!

[Jack Sparrow]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Good luck with that!

Thanks bro...do you think she'd like it if I sang 'Heat of the Moment'?

[Zed.D]

Stop what ?! Speaking the truth ??  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Is it easy to sit back and relax ?! Show signs of worry ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

The f2ck r u saying ?!

Yeah hypocrites !! You said that at the beginning of this season you were all for Milan and now you are against all that you have said (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That's a hypocrite attribute. (oh I forgot Ronaldo got injured (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

There is a line you would draw between being worried and supporting the team at the same time and completely bashing the team. I am of the former group, worried and supporting the team! Whereas, u choose to bash the team.

Don't let me hold you back (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Go right ahead, but when this very team comes back with the CL trophy and CWC, I would expect ur hypocritical tendencies to react again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Then forget it. [since it seems to be the only way to end this ridiculous discussion]: may God save you faithful old-timer [some more raving adjectives in here] fan for Milan and [m..a..y..b..e..] endue you with some sense of understanding for charlatan fans like me, amen! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Tennie]

Will you marry me (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

The fish doll would disapprove. You make fun of his sharp-toothed piranha cousins! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

To talk about the game (this IS a match thread), I didn't pick up a whole lot of note in my brief skimming of the news conferences on acmilan.com's italian pages. Carletto /did/ say that he wasn't sure /how long/ Ronie would play though, so that's a hint that he will play some time. Also, the player who spoke along with Carletto was Kaladze. Could be because he used to play in the Ukraine. But usually, the player who does the pregame press conference also starts so....*passes the vodka bottle to dst* looks like Kaladze will be somewhere in defense.

[kurtsimonw]

Thanks bro...do you think she'd like it if I sang 'Heat of the Moment'?

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Either that or say something nice about Dida.. She can't resist that. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Carletto /did/ say that he wasn't sure /how long/ Ronie would play though, so that's a hint that he will play some time.

Thanks God! How long has it been since we last saw R9 play!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

The fish doll would disapprove. You make fun of his sharp-toothed piranha cousins! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Send him out on a date with Monsieur Jack Daniels. Or even better Max.

To talk about the game (this IS a match thread), I didn't pick up a whole lot of note in my brief skimming of the news conferences on acmilan.com's italian pages. Carletto /did/ say that he wasn't sure /how long/ Ronie would play though, so that's a hint that he will play some time. Also, the player who spoke along with Carletto was Kaladze. Could be because he used to play in the Ukraine. But usually, the player who does the pregame press conference also starts so....*passes the vodka bottle to dst* looks like Kaladze will be somewhere in defense.

*Looks over*

Nope he passed out as soon as you said it. Is that Absolut Citron? Be glad to take it off your hands...

[Rossoneri7]

Then forget it. [since it seems to be the only way to end this ridiculous discussion]: may God save you faithful old-timer [some more raving adjectives in here] fan for Milan and [m..a..y..b..e..] endue you with some sense of understanding for charlatan fans like me, amen! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

old-timer ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Yeah, just like our Rossoneri heroes (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Problem is, I am trying so hard to convince people like you that there is a brighter side to look at things, instead you dwell on the present hardships.

p.s. Ridiculous ?! U were the one to reply to my post and now u call it ridiculous !!

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Nov 5 2007, 07:31 PM

[Tennie]

Jack, if it were the good stuff (or even the mediocre stuff like Absolut), I'd have kept it for myself. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Anyway...

Milan will wear their white kit tomorrow for the game and they'll all have black armbands as a sign of mourning for the passing of Nils Liedholm. And, as mentioned elsewhere, there'll be a minute of silence before the game.

[jefri91]

Milan will wear their white kit tomorrow for the game and they'll all have black armbands as a sign of mourning for the passing of Nils Liedholm. And, as mentioned elsewhere, there'll be a minute of silence before the game.

I dont think its confirmed yet. They are still asking for it.

[Nova]

There are the oldtimers (like me and R7) ...

And Nova (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) thank you