[kurtsimonw]

No **** sheriff!

Currently all our hopes are in Ronaldo [returning] and Pato [making a uber-duper-super debut]

No offense, but if anyone honestly thinks Pato will make a noticable difference this season, they're kidding themselves. No 17 year old kid in todays footballing World is going to change anything.

As for Ronaldo, he can change things, unfortunately his withdrawal symptoms kick in and he becomes desperate to return to our injury room.

[agenth]

No offense, but if anyone honestly thinks Pato will make a noticable difference this season, they're kidding themselves. No 17 year old kid in todays footballing World is going to change anything.

As for Ronaldo, he can change things, unfortunately his withdrawal symptoms kick in and he becomes desperate to return to our injury room.

i didnt say I believe it, I said that's where our hopes/possibilites/chances are/lie!

TBH, I mainly agree with you! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Yes we won't win it, but I don't believe it was planned. Maybe last year with all the Calciopoli mess. But this year, after winning the CL? To decide to go just for CL is stupid and shameful for Milan if so. They want both but just with minimum resources. It's not like we had poor summer just this year it's a tendency.

I doubt the management or the coach thought they could go for both with the current players we have on the bench. That is why I say it is obvious.


Then another thing on people who say Milan don't invest in the transfer market. Give me one team in Europe today that has the amount of experience, cohesion, and team spirit as this current team has ? I think we can beat anyone on our good day .. But we don't have enough depth to go the distance of Serie A, still that doesn't mean we wont reach a CL spot. hell, I think we will reach it comfortably, taking into consideration our comeback last yr.

I don't get why everyone is complaining ? Sure the team has only won one game out of a possible 5 till now, but that doesn't mean anything in the long run. We just have to accept this team as it is. They have proved their worth, it is just another season!

I think the word "old" doesn't mean anything to this team ... When it is time to separate the boys from the men; Milan is always on top.

p.s. I want to the merda !!! I want Milan to humiliate them, when is this game ?? I want some revenge ! And I hope they have their best XI ready on that day!

[kurtsimonw]

i didnt say I believe it, I said that's where our hopes/possibilites/chances are/lie!

TBH, I mainly agree with you!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I know, I know. I wasn't saying you believed it, you were just the one that mentioned that's who we are relying on which is true. And it's a mistake!

[Rossoneri7]

I know,  I know. I wasn't saying you believed it, you were just the one that mentioned that's who we are relying on which is true. And it's a mistake!

Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.

[KillerMax]

Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.

The management is. They keep talking about him as the signing of the season and stuff. They think they bought Jesus or something...

[kurtsimonw]

Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. In the league, it was R9s introduction that turned us around last season, we seem to be waiting for the same thing to happen this season, too.

As for Pato, I don't think anyone is relying on him yet, just hoping.

[misha]

I doubt the management or the coach thought they could go for both with the current players we have on the bench. That is why I say it is obvious.
Then another thing on people who say Milan don't invest in the transfer market. Give me one team in Europe today that has the amount of experience, cohesion, and team spirit as this current team has ? I think we can beat anyone on our good day .. But we don't have enough depth to go the distance of Serie A, still that doesn't mean we wont reach a CL spot. hell, I think we will reach it comfortably, taking into consideration our comeback last yr.

I don't get why everyone is complaining ? Sure the team has only won one game out of a possible 5 till now, but that doesn't mean anything in the long run. We just have to accept this team as it is. They have proved their worth, it is just another season!

Yeah, we have all that but the fans want a competitive team that won't give up at the start and leave the center stage for Inter. Other teams at least try to win both. CL is great but it shouldn't be on the league's expense. Just CL spot is not good enough for Milan in the league!! and people complain because winning the league twice for the last 11 years is unacceptable. And they are complaining because all the problems were predictable and still the opacity of the board is pretty damn frustrating. Instead of building a balanced team that can go all the way in both, we are concentrating only on Cl in which we gonna get far but can easily fail too (couple injuries or bad shape of some players). If Milan not going for both I see it as failure even if win CL. We are not Liverpool.

[Rossoneri7]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. In the league, it was R9s introduction that turned us around last season, we seem to be waiting for the same thing to happen this season, too.

As for Pato, I don't think anyone is relying on him yet, just hoping.

Ronaldo is Ronaldo ... You can't bring Pato and put him in the same situation.

I hope that he turns out to be the one who really impresses when he is on, but that is me as a fan hoping that he shows up with the level of football which we are used to from Milan players ..

@Max

Yeah the management have been putting a lot of faith in him, but I guess that is from their assessment of him. Let's not forget Leonardo was the one who looked at him before we got him, the same man who brought us this jem of a player, Kaka'. Moreover, he could have impressed in training ... But just as I have been telling Kurt, the team wont rely on him. We will see how he turns out.

p.s. The management have to show faith in him and speak good things about him. After all they show the same faith in Gila (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) that is only normal cuz they are Milan players

[Rossoneri7]

Yeah, we have all that but the fans want a competitive team that won't give up at the start and leave the center stage for Inter. Other teams at least try to win both. CL is great but it shouldn't be on the league's expense. Just CL spot is not good enough for Milan in the league!! and people complain because winning the league twice for the last 11 years is unacceptable. And they are complaining because all the problems were predictable and still the opacity of the board is pretty damn frustrating. Instead of building a balanced team that can go all the way in both, we are concentrating only on Cl in which we gonna get far but can easily fail too (couple injuries or bad shape of some players). If Milan not going for both I see it as failure even if win CL. We are not Liverpool.

trust me, I agree. But what I am trying to say, what is the point of all this talk ?!

People have been saying exactly the same thing u have in almost 70% of the threads in this forum. Addressing the same issue time and time again .. We all get it, we all know that misha .. What I am saying is, let us look at what the team is actually targeting. Cuz the season already started and all these talks have no relativity now, except by u saying that we have failed.

If so, then shut off ur tv, cuz we wont win the Scudetto ... That is for sure.

[misha]

trust me, I agree. But what I am trying to say, what is the point of all this talk ?!

People have been saying exactly the same thing u have in almost 70% of the threads in this forum. Addressing the same issue time and time again .. We all get it, we all know that misha .. What I am saying is, let us look at what the team is actually targeting. Cuz the season already started and all these talks have no relativity now, except by u saying that we have failed.

If so, then shut off ur tv, cuz we wont win the Scudetto ... That is for sure.

What else can you write about in the middle of all this league games. The season just started, the CL spring is month away and people are super frustrated with all this mess. Now we need to see Inter happy all year long and to pray for a the smooth ride in the CL.

[Zed.D]

@R7

Yes, the league may not be our priority this season. but if we continue like this, we won't see any CL games next season!
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As for Pato... I think he can be far more useful than Pippo and Gila "in the league". personally I have a lot of faith in him. for me, he has the potential to surprise anyone.

[Rossoneri7]

What else can you write about in the middle of all this league games. The season just started, the CL spring is month away and people are super frustrated with all this mess. Now we need to see Inter happy all year long and to pray for a the smooth ride in the CL.

I know ... Trust me I share ur exact same sentiments and I would want nothing better than Milan topping the table and winning so comfortably. But as u said it is still the start to the season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

inter wont have it easy as they did last yr ... It is their 6th game only, there is still a long winter for them to go through and Juve don't have the CL to play so they will be fresher at keeping them in check. Roma are still a great side, they will be back from this defeat to torment inter.

And Milan, well a CL spot isn't so bad. We have already won a trophy this season in Monte Carlo, the CWC would be a HUGE satisfaction for me if we won it, taking revenge on Boca is so sweet too. And the CL is just our game.

p.s. I hope we get a chance to meet Barca at the latter stages, we also have a vendetta to take care of. After all, we did it in 94 against their Dream team, we can do it again.

p.s.2 When we beat catania tomorrow we wont be in such a bad position, we would be 5 or 6 points off the top, which IMO isn't bad considering our start (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Have faith bro. The team might not bring u the Scudetto this season, but there is still much to look forward to (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

R7,...I love your optimistic views,...hope you're right about it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/goodheart.gif) .

But,..something in that whole story is missing. I mean, Silvio is one of the most successfull italians living, and one of the smartest businesman. Galliani has a mafiosi image, but we all love him and he is sure a capable man.

Why? Why would our board (S+G) back of from a scudetto attempt? I really don't see any motive?

And all that transfer lethargy? Why that? Allways when Milan needed under major investments Silvio would step in. Allways our team would get some reinforcement. Why this sudden image change? I know, we were kind of scrimpy but we did make one big transfer at least.

So from my point of view, things started to change 2 years ago. Before that we allways were CL and league pretenders, we allways made investments...

[Fillipo Simone]

p.s.2 When we beat catania tomorrow we wont be in such a bad position, we would be 5 or 6 points off the top, which IMO isn't bad considering our start (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Only one intervention. We are in a bad situation, it's not the end of the world, but we are. Cause Inter allready played and won against Roma, Juve also had 2 important matches. We are the only pretender that had such little success out of such week opponents.

Still, I share your optimism,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)