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Fillipo Simone
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[B]Collovati: Milan Need Strikers[/B]

Former Azzurri defender Fulvio Collovati believes that Milan blundered in the transfer market during the summer and are in desperate need of some strikers.

The Rossoneri have been badly struggling for goals this season and due to the injury of Ronaldo, currently have just three fit strikers in their first team squad. These are the brilliant but ageing Filippo Inzaghi, the hugely disappointing Alberto Gilardino and the rookie French youngster Willy Aubameyang. 

“Milan have few alternatives in attack,” said Collovati. “I looked at the Inter team against Sampdoria and they had Ibrahimovic and Crespo on the field. Then I looked at the bench and they had three forwards in Adriano, Julio Cruz and a player that Milan blew the chance of buying, David Suazo. 

“I think there is no doubt that Milan had the wrong transfer strategy in the summer. They should have also purchased an alternative to Dida in goal and a younger centre midfielder than Emerson who can represent the future of Milan.” 

Collovati was a World Cup winner with Italy in 1982 and played for both Milan and Inter during an illustrious career. He also won a Scudetto with the Rossoneri in 1979 and later represented Udinese, Roma and Genoa in Serie A.


Collovati knows,...but it's hard not to mention the things he did.
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But... unsure.gif
Rossoneri7
There will always be the critics ... After all, we won the CL last season, mostly because of what the critics said about Milan. I hope this could turn into the same motivation to lift it again devilsmiley.gif
redbabies
What he said is true! Like it or not.
milanista1899
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 05:05 PM)
I hope this could turn into the same motivation to lift it again devilsmiley.gif
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We don't need any extra motivation to win the CL, but we do to win the Scudetto.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Sep 29 2007, 08:51 PM)
We don't need any extra motivation to win the CL, but we do to win the Scudetto.
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It's not a target for Milan. I am confident it will be next year, but not this year for sure. It is very obvious, ever since the start of the season.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 06:09 PM)
It's not a target for Milan. I am confident it will be next year, but not this year for sure. It is very obvious, ever since the start of the season.
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we can't keep hiding behind excuses, fact of the matter is that we should have strengthened in the summer whatever baldy said and now we're paying for his stupidity rolleyes.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (redbabies @ Sep 29 2007, 05:09 PM)
What he said is true! Like it or not.
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The truth hurts some people wink.gif
kurtsimonw
I see no reason to prioritise things like the Club World Cup over the league.. It's only 3 games, how can you make 3 games more important than a whole season? That's just silly.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 29 2007, 08:52 PM)
I see no reason to prioritise things like the Club World Cup over the league.. It's only 3 games, how can you make 3 games more important than a whole season? That's just silly.
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2 games.
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It's not a target for Milan. I am confident it will be next year, but not this year for sure. It is very obvious, ever since the start of the season.

To say that Serie A is not a target is to make excuses for the board. Of course it's a target, they just do a minimum for it ,keep their narrow minded view , and hope for the best. If a team like Milan don't make league on a high priority then it's a big failure. How a team that's one of the best in the world don't do maximum for the league? Show me example of any other team of Milan calibre to do so. It's not that. They want to win both with a minimum effort , but of course the chances for that are small.
Fillipo Simone
I don't like these conspiracy theories but,...maybe there is a purpose in our so obvious policy of giving up the league. Ever since Calciopoli. Hmh,.. unsure.gif
misha
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 29 2007, 09:09 PM)
I don't like these conspiracy theories but,...maybe there is a purpose in our so obvious policy of giving up the league. Ever since Calciopoli. Hmh,.. unsure.gif
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It's much more simple. They actually thought that it will be enough...
Rossoneri7
Not an excuse ... We as fans see it differently. We want the league !!! We all do!

The board don't want the league this season, it was so obvious since the summer ... Whether u accept it today or in May, the outcome stays the same.
misha
Yes we won't win it, but I don't believe it was planned. Maybe last year with all the Calciopoli mess. But this year, after winning the CL? To decide to go just for CL is stupid and shameful for Milan if so. They want both but just with minimum resources. It's not like we had poor summer just this year it's a tendency.
agenth
No **** sheriff!

Currently all our hopes are in Ronaldo [returning] and Pato [making a uber-duper-super debut]
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mchanna @ Sep 29 2007, 08:36 PM)
No **** sheriff!

Currently all our hopes are in Ronaldo [returning] and Pato [making a uber-duper-super debut]
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No offense, but if anyone honestly thinks Pato will make a noticable difference this season, they're kidding themselves. No 17 year old kid in todays footballing World is going to change anything.

As for Ronaldo, he can change things, unfortunately his withdrawal symptoms kick in and he becomes desperate to return to our injury room.
agenth
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 29 2007, 09:40 PM)
No offense, but if anyone honestly thinks Pato will make a noticable difference this season, they're kidding themselves. No 17 year old kid in todays footballing World is going to change anything.

As for Ronaldo, he can change things, unfortunately his withdrawal symptoms kick in and he becomes desperate to return to our injury room.
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i didnt say I believe it, I said that's where our hopes/possibilites/chances are/lie!

TBH, I mainly agree with you! rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 29 2007, 11:35 PM)
Yes we won't win it, but I don't believe it was planned. Maybe last year with all the Calciopoli mess. But this year, after winning the CL? To decide to go just for CL is stupid and shameful for Milan if so. They want both but just with minimum resources. It's not like we had poor summer just this year it's a tendency.
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I doubt the management or the coach thought they could go for both with the current players we have on the bench. That is why I say it is obvious.


Then another thing on people who say Milan don't invest in the transfer market. Give me one team in Europe today that has the amount of experience, cohesion, and team spirit as this current team has ? I think we can beat anyone on our good day .. But we don't have enough depth to go the distance of Serie A, still that doesn't mean we wont reach a CL spot. hell, I think we will reach it comfortably, taking into consideration our comeback last yr.

I don't get why everyone is complaining ? Sure the team has only won one game out of a possible 5 till now, but that doesn't mean anything in the long run. We just have to accept this team as it is. They have proved their worth, it is just another season!

I think the word "old" doesn't mean anything to this team ... When it is time to separate the boys from the men; Milan is always on top.

p.s. I want to the merda !!! I want Milan to humiliate them, when is this game ?? I want some revenge ! And I hope they have their best XI ready on that day!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mchanna @ Sep 29 2007, 08:42 PM)
i didnt say I believe it, I said that's where our hopes/possibilites/chances are/lie!

TBH, I mainly agree with you!  rolleyes.gif
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I know, I know. I wasn't saying you believed it, you were just the one that mentioned that's who we are relying on which is true. And it's a mistake!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 29 2007, 11:57 PM)
I know,  I know. I wasn't saying you believed it, you were just the one that mentioned that's who we are relying on which is true. And it's a mistake!
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Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 03:15 PM)
Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.
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The management is. They keep talking about him as the signing of the season and stuff. They think they bought Jesus or something...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 09:15 PM)
Maybe we as fans are relying on him, but the team isn't.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. In the league, it was R9s introduction that turned us around last season, we seem to be waiting for the same thing to happen this season, too.

As for Pato, I don't think anyone is relying on him yet, just hoping.
misha
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 10:51 PM)
I doubt the management or the coach thought they could go for both with the current players we have on the bench. That is why I say it is obvious.
Then another thing on people who say Milan don't invest in the transfer market. Give me one team in Europe today that has the amount of experience, cohesion, and team spirit as this current team has ? I think we can beat anyone on our good day .. But we don't have enough depth to go the distance of Serie A, still that doesn't mean we wont reach a CL spot. hell, I think we will reach it comfortably, taking into consideration our comeback last yr.

I don't get why everyone is complaining ? Sure the team has only won one game out of a possible 5 till now, but that doesn't mean anything in the long run. We just have to accept this team as it is. They have proved their worth, it is just another season!
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Yeah, we have all that but the fans want a competitive team that won't give up at the start and leave the center stage for Inter. Other teams at least try to win both. CL is great but it shouldn't be on the league's expense. Just CL spot is not good enough for Milan in the league!! and people complain because winning the league twice for the last 11 years is unacceptable. And they are complaining because all the problems were predictable and still the opacity of the board is pretty damn frustrating. Instead of building a balanced team that can go all the way in both, we are concentrating only on Cl in which we gonna get far but can easily fail too (couple injuries or bad shape of some players). If Milan not going for both I see it as failure even if win CL. We are not Liverpool.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 30 2007, 12:23 AM)
I wouldn't be so sure about that. In the league, it was R9s introduction that turned us around last season, we seem to be waiting for the same thing to happen this season, too.

As for Pato, I don't think anyone is relying on him yet, just hoping.
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Ronaldo is Ronaldo ... You can't bring Pato and put him in the same situation.

I hope that he turns out to be the one who really impresses when he is on, but that is me as a fan hoping that he shows up with the level of football which we are used to from Milan players ..

@Max

Yeah the management have been putting a lot of faith in him, but I guess that is from their assessment of him. Let's not forget Leonardo was the one who looked at him before we got him, the same man who brought us this jem of a player, Kaka'. Moreover, he could have impressed in training ... But just as I have been telling Kurt, the team wont rely on him. We will see how he turns out.

p.s. The management have to show faith in him and speak good things about him. After all they show the same faith in Gila rolleyes.gif that is only normal cuz they are Milan players
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 30 2007, 12:38 AM)
Yeah, we have all that but the fans want a competitive team that won't give up at the start and leave the center stage for Inter. Other teams at least try to win both. CL is great but it shouldn't be on the league's expense. Just CL spot is not good enough for Milan in the league!! and people complain because winning the league twice for the last 11 years is unacceptable. And they are complaining because all the problems were predictable and still the opacity of the board is pretty damn frustrating. Instead of building a balanced team that can go all the way in both, we are concentrating only on Cl in which we gonna get far but can easily fail too (couple injuries or bad shape of some players). If Milan not going for both I see it as failure even if win CL. We are not Liverpool.
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trust me, I agree. But what I am trying to say, what is the point of all this talk ?!

People have been saying exactly the same thing u have in almost 70% of the threads in this forum. Addressing the same issue time and time again .. We all get it, we all know that misha .. What I am saying is, let us look at what the team is actually targeting. Cuz the season already started and all these talks have no relativity now, except by u saying that we have failed.

If so, then shut off ur tv, cuz we wont win the Scudetto ... That is for sure.
misha
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:47 PM)
trust me, I agree. But what I am trying to say, what is the point of all this talk ?!

People have been saying exactly the same thing u have in almost 70% of the threads in this forum. Addressing the same issue time and time again .. We all get it, we all know that misha .. What I am saying is, let us look at what the team is actually targeting. Cuz the season already started and all these talks have no relativity now, except by u saying that we have failed.

If so, then shut off ur tv, cuz we wont win the Scudetto ... That is for sure.
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What else can you write about in the middle of all this league games. The season just started, the CL spring is month away and people are super frustrated with all this mess. Now we need to see Inter happy all year long and to pray for a the smooth ride in the CL.
Zed.D
@R7

Yes, the league may not be our priority this season. but if we continue like this, we won't see any CL games next season!
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As for Pato... I think he can be far more useful than Pippo and Gila "in the league". personally I have a lot of faith in him. for me, he has the potential to surprise anyone.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 30 2007, 01:07 AM)
What else can you write about in the middle of all this league games. The season just started, the CL spring is month away and people are super frustrated with all this mess. Now we need to see Inter happy all year long and to pray for a the smooth ride in the CL.
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I know ... Trust me I share ur exact same sentiments and I would want nothing better than Milan topping the table and winning so comfortably. But as u said it is still the start to the season wink.gif king.gif

inter wont have it easy as they did last yr ... It is their 6th game only, there is still a long winter for them to go through and Juve don't have the CL to play so they will be fresher at keeping them in check. Roma are still a great side, they will be back from this defeat to torment inter.

And Milan, well a CL spot isn't so bad. We have already won a trophy this season in Monte Carlo, the CWC would be a HUGE satisfaction for me if we won it, taking revenge on Boca is so sweet too. And the CL is just our game.

p.s. I hope we get a chance to meet Barca at the latter stages, we also have a vendetta to take care of. After all, we did it in 94 against their Dream team, we can do it again.

p.s.2 When we beat catania tomorrow we wont be in such a bad position, we would be 5 or 6 points off the top, which IMO isn't bad considering our start king.gif

Have faith bro. The team might not bring u the Scudetto this season, but there is still much to look forward to cool.gif
Fillipo Simone
R7,...I love your optimistic views,...hope you're right about it goodheart.gif.

But,..something in that whole story is missing. I mean, Silvio is one of the most successfull italians living, and one of the smartest businesman. Galliani has a mafiosi image, but we all love him and he is sure a capable man.

Why? Why would our board (S+G) back of from a scudetto attempt? I really don't see any motive?

And all that transfer lethargy? Why that? Allways when Milan needed under major investments Silvio would step in. Allways our team would get some reinforcement. Why this sudden image change? I know, we were kind of scrimpy but we did make one big transfer at least.

So from my point of view, things started to change 2 years ago. Before that we allways were CL and league pretenders, we allways made investments...
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:17 PM)
p.s.2 When we beat catania tomorrow we wont be in such a bad position, we would be 5 or 6 points off the top, which IMO isn't bad considering our start king.gif

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Only one intervention. We are in a bad situation, it's not the end of the world, but we are. Cause Inter allready played and won against Roma, Juve also had 2 important matches. We are the only pretender that had such little success out of such week opponents.

Still, I share your optimism,.. cool.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2007, 01:35 AM)
We are the only pretender that had such little success out of such week opponents.
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Since when did Milan turn it on against the weak sides wink.gif devilsmiley.gif
kurtsimonw
About new strikers..
I think we need a top striker bought in next summer, even if Gila was to score 20 goals. Pato is still too young, R9 and Pippo are injur prone and on the downside of their careers. We'd need a new guy that could last the season AND be consistant. That'd give us depth, too. Pippo still has the magic in the CL, so he could still be used in that, without tiring our other strikers out!
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 29 2007, 04:38 PM)
Yeah, we have all that but the fans want a competitive team that won't give up at the start and leave the center stage for Inter. Other teams at least try to win both. CL is great but it shouldn't be on the league's expense. Just CL spot is not good enough for Milan in the league!! and people complain because winning the league twice for the last 11 years is unacceptable. And they are complaining because all the problems were predictable and still the opacity of the board is pretty damn frustrating. Instead of building a balanced team that can go all the way in both, we are concentrating only on Cl in which we gonna get far but can easily fail too (couple injuries or bad shape of some players). If Milan not going for both I see it as failure even if win CL. We are not Liverpool.
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even liverpool are trying to win the league... rolleyes.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 29 2007, 05:16 PM)
@R7

Yes, the league may not be our priority this season. but if we continue like this, we won't see any CL games next season!
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As for Pato... I think he can be far more useful than Pippo and Gila "in the league". personally I have a lot of faith in him. for me, he has the potential to surprise anyone.
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actually i would love to see us miss out in CL so our management shut up and buy a a squad fit enough to win the league.

but then again who am i kidding? if we missed out on CL our main objective would probably be 4th in the league and semis in coppa rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 29 2007, 10:38 PM)
Since when did Milan turn it on against the weak sides wink.gif  devilsmiley.gif
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Come on R7, you know that if we were to face either Roma or Inter right now they would tear us to shreads, just like they did last season.

Let's face it we haven't been good enough this season, the only good performances I saw from our team were against Sevilla and Benfica. And I'm not saying that we haven't played well in other games because we played great against Palermo and Fiorentina, but despite how good those perfomances where they weren't complete performances because we couldn't finish any of our chances.

We have somthing missing, now whether that is Ronaldo or the team just simply doesn't give a cr@p about domestic game is yet to be seen, but right now I can't see us going up against a big team and winning.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 2 2007, 08:03 PM)
Come on R7, you know that if we were to face either Roma or Inter right now they would tear us to shreads, just like they did last season.

Let's face it we haven't been good enough this season, the only good performances I saw from our team were against Sevilla and Benfica. And I'm not saying that we haven't played well in other games because we played great against Palermo and Fiorentina, but despite how good those perfomances where they weren't complete performances because we couldn't finish any of our chances.

We have somthing missing, now whether that is Ronaldo or the team just simply doesn't give a cr@p about domestic game is yet to be seen, but right now I can't see us going up against a big team and winning.
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Have faith. Hasn't Milan always taken up the challenge? Hasn't Milan made the impossible, possible over night cool.gif

What do Roma and inter have that we don't have ?! a good bench rolleyes.gif And ?! Well that is about it. Other than that, they would be motivated to play the Great Milan! This is a team that every player envies ... Every player wants to do good in front of Milan!

Last season, the team were broken in Serie A, which is why we lost both derbies and the Roma games ... The team was broken because inter were on a run away train and it was an unjust season.

IMO we are much stronger than inter or Roma. We can beat anyone. We are only lackinga striker that scores!
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2007, 09:16 PM)
Have faith. Hasn't Milan always taken up the challenge? Hasn't Milan made the impossible, possible over night cool.gif

What do Roma and inter have that we don't have ?! a good bench  rolleyes.gif And ?! Well that is about it. Other than that, they would be motivated to play the Great Milan! This is a team that every player envies ... Every player wants to do good in front of Milan!

Last season, the team were broken in Serie A, which is why we lost both derbies and the Roma games ... The team was broken because inter were on a run away train and it was an unjust season.

IMO we are much stronger than inter or Roma. We can beat anyone. We are only lackinga  striker that scores!
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And this season is turning out to be like last season

What do Roma and Inter have that's different?

Players who actually want to win the league and don't go out there to stroll games. They actually come out to play no matter the opponent or the players that the coach puts out, that's the difference.

And when have Milan stepped up to the challenge lastley in the league? Because I remeber us last season not being able to beat either inter or roma once. And let's not continue to make the same excuse we did last year, so far we are getting worse results then we did last season and this season we don't have any points penalties, we're actually supposed to start on a high from the CL win.

So I can't see why you still have hope that if we were to face a big team tomorrow like Barca or Inter that we would still win.

Until we get our acts together we won't be winning these types of games anytime soon. And yes it's partly the issue of the strikers but who's fault is that?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2007, 12:33 AM)
And this season is turning out to be like last season

What do Roma and Inter have that's different?

Players who actually want to win the league and don't go out there to stroll games. They actually come out to play no matter the opponent or the players that the coach puts out, that's the difference.

And when have Milan stepped up to the challenge lastley in the league? Because I remeber us last season not being able to beat either inter or roma once. And let's not continue to make the same excuse we did last year, so far we are getting worse results then we did last season and this season we don't have any points penalties, we're actually supposed to start on a high from the CL win.

So I can't see why you still have hope that if we were to face a big team tomorrow like Barca or Inter that we would still win.

Until we get our acts together we won't be winning these types of games anytime soon. And yes it's partly the issue of the strikers but who's fault is that?
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The league isn't a club target for this season! You guys really need to comprehend this. Though we will finish in the top 4, the club as a whole doesn't target the Scudetto this season. They have other objectives. The sooner you get this, the easier it will be for u to digest wink.gif

You can't assess the team based on last yr. Well if your gonna do that, look at what we did to the team of the season 'united' !!! And if ur gonna do that, look at how we came back from 17th place to finish off at 4th place in the last 5 games of Serie A!!

What I am trying to say is .. You have to give this team credit. And saying Roma and inter are better than us is an exaggerated assessment really! Cuz we have yet to face them.
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