> Serie A - Week 19 - Milan - Atalanta, Date: 18/01/2015 Time: 15:00 CET

 
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post Jan 15 2015, 11:28 AM
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That's why we were blaming Allegri in the first place, wasn't it? Maybe we overestimate our players a bit, but even so, 26 points in 19 games is too little. The 3rd place is theoretically impossible because Juve, Roma and Napoli are better than us, but 4th and 5th place are totally within our reach, yet we are massively under-performing. Not to mention the ugly-@ss football we play. At least with Allegri in 12/13 we played like crap but still managed to get that 3rd spot (with a bit of luck and help from referees, that is).

If I were to describe Pippo's Milan in one word, it would be 'life-less'.
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post Jan 21 2015, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 21 2015, 05:27 PM) *
That's why we were blaming Allegri in the first place, wasn't it? Maybe we overestimate our players a bit, but even so, 26 points in 19 games is too little. The 3rd place is theoretically impossible because Juve, Roma and Napoli are better than us, but 4th and 5th place are totally within our reach, yet we are massively under-performing. Not to mention the ugly-@ss football we play. At least with Allegri in 12/13 we played like crap but still managed to get that 3rd spot (with a bit of luck and help from referees, that is).

If I were to describe Pippo's Milan in one word, it would be 'life-less'.

Well, at the beginning of the season some of us here said 3rd place should be reachable. Now we are 4th or 5th place chasers - but this is still a very much reachable goal, don't you think?

Allegri managed to get us 3rd but he had a better squad. I don't know what you guys expect, we have a toothless attack with a washed out Pazzini, Torres (now gone) and the never in-form SES. Much goes on Pippo and his insisting in the stupid wingers plus false 9 system, agreed.

But Allegri had matchwinners like Ibrahimović and Balotelli in his squad. Every 3rd or 4th match we played they would pull out a stunner and win games like Atalanta, Bologna, Siena, etc. by themselves.

One other thing is, both Seedorf and Inzaghi couldn't shake off the mentality Allegri and our management inflicted to the team. Seedorf was getting closer to the task, while Inzaghi seemingly goes along the stream and tries to build around such a small minded mentality.

Thing is, by sacking Inzaghi we won't achieve anything unless the management changes their approach. If Inzaghi goes, in comes - say Gattuso, Ambrosini or anyone who's prepared to take over and listen to Galliani and Berlu without much resistance.
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post Jan 21 2015, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 21 2015, 02:42 PM) *
Allegri managed to get us 3rd but he had a better squad.


Really?

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It's really not that different, and it doesn't have the likes of Bona, Alex, Lopez, Menez, Cerci, and Suso.

Indeed the best team there is arguably: Abbiati, Abate, Mexes, Zapata, MDS, De Jong, Flamini, Monto, Boateng, Balo & SES. And by the time he left (end of that season IIRC), Boateng was absolutely horrendous for us.

The one thing Allegri had was Balo during the peak of his career - January 2013 - summer that year. But for Balo those 6 months read Menez today.

I wouldn't say our current squad is any weaker. I'd say it's actually stronger. Two decent keepers, a glut of (in theory) decent CBs like Rami, Mexes, Alex, Zapata, a whole host of midfielders like Monto, De Jong, Van Ginkel, Jack, Essien, Muntari, and attackers like SES, Menez, Cerci, Pazzo etc.

I don't believe Allegri's squad was better at all. Same at best, weaker at worst.
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 19 - Milan - Atalanta   Jan 15 2015, 11:28 AM
- - Danny   Allegri Jnr v his old team. Let's take the ti...   Jan 15 2015, 04:35 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 15 2015, 04:35 PM) All...   Jan 15 2015, 06:05 PM
- - X-Offender   Some reports suggesting we could play 4-2-3-1 Mon...   Jan 15 2015, 06:53 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2015, 08...   Jan 15 2015, 07:27 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 15 2015, 07:27 ...   Jan 15 2015, 07:33 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2015, 09...   Jan 15 2015, 08:19 PM
- - X-Offender   Here's Mediaset's line-up anyway: Lopez; A...   Jan 15 2015, 07:39 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2015, 07...   Jan 15 2015, 08:55 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 15 2015, 06...   Jan 15 2015, 11:35 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2015, 04:35 AM) Ano...   Jan 16 2015, 07:08 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 16 2015, 06:08 AM) M...   Jan 16 2015, 02:50 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2015, 07:50 PM) Kin...   Jan 16 2015, 03:50 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2015, 02:50 PM) Kin...   Jan 16 2015, 08:28 PM
- - X-Offender   Alex and Mexes would be a very slow pairing. They...   Jan 16 2015, 09:30 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2015, 09...   Jan 16 2015, 10:29 PM
||- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 16 2015, 09:29 PM) R...   Jan 16 2015, 11:17 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2015, 11:17 PM) You...   Jan 17 2015, 10:29 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2015, 08...   Jan 16 2015, 11:16 PM
- - Danny   Like I said, at the time of me saying it we had ne...   Jan 18 2015, 10:31 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2015, 10:31 AM) Lik...   Jan 18 2015, 11:33 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 18 2015, 10:33 AM) I...   Jan 18 2015, 12:51 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   D.Lopez; Abate, Mexes, Rami, Bonera; Montolivo, De...   Jan 18 2015, 02:14 PM
- - X-Offender   That's possible the best line-up we can play e...   Jan 18 2015, 02:43 PM
- - X-Offender   I can't find any SopCast links for the match.   Jan 18 2015, 02:54 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 18 2015, 04...   Jan 18 2015, 02:58 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2015, 12:51 PM) Yes...   Jan 18 2015, 03:01 PM
- - han2503   Good start, but we usually start this way then it ...   Jan 18 2015, 03:07 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   I'm enjoying El Shaarawy's work rate.   Jan 18 2015, 03:15 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Menez should have sent a better shot there.   Jan 18 2015, 03:18 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 18 2015, 03:18 ...   Jan 18 2015, 03:19 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Again making the simple mistakes in midfield. Givi...   Jan 18 2015, 03:22 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   One down already.   Jan 18 2015, 03:36 PM
- - han2503   Menez trying to be too smart, another mistake in m...   Jan 18 2015, 03:36 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   And now we concede. How? Menez playing with the ba...   Jan 18 2015, 03:36 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 18 2015, 03:3...   Jan 18 2015, 03:37 PM
- - X-Offender   1-0 Pathetic. P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. I haven't seen...   Jan 18 2015, 03:40 PM
- - han2503   This no striker system absolutely kills us in atta...   Jan 18 2015, 03:49 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 18 2015, 05:49 PM) T...   Jan 18 2015, 03:51 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 18 2015, 03:49 PM) T...   Jan 18 2015, 04:04 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 18 2015, 04...   Jan 18 2015, 04:08 PM
- - Ry4n   im reading this atm http://www.amazon.com/Am-T...   Jan 18 2015, 03:58 PM
- - han2503   Why are SES and Menez both lumped in on the left n...   Jan 18 2015, 04:11 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 18 2015, 04:11 PM) W...   Jan 18 2015, 04:17 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 18 2015, 04...   Jan 18 2015, 04:26 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   If we loose this one, and I think we will, or even...   Jan 18 2015, 04:30 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 18 2015, 03:30 ...   Jan 18 2015, 04:58 PM
- - Linkman   I keep yelling at the screen "Sub yourself in...   Jan 18 2015, 04:35 PM
- - Linkman   I don't think Pippo is the problem. Just like...   Jan 18 2015, 04:38 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Linkman @ Jan 18 2015, 04:38 PM) I...   Jan 18 2015, 04:40 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   Maybe people will wake up and realise the players ...   Jan 18 2015, 05:01 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 18 2015, 05:01 PM...   Jan 18 2015, 05:02 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 18 2015, 04:01 PM...   Jan 18 2015, 05:03 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 18 2015, 08:01 PM...   Jan 19 2015, 10:06 AM
- - Linkman   Oh but there is! Come on, we just switched coa...   Jan 18 2015, 04:42 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Linkman @ Jan 18 2015, 04:42 PM) O...   Jan 18 2015, 04:45 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Linkman @ Jan 18 2015, 04:42 PM) O...   Jan 18 2015, 04:57 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 18 2015, 03:57 PM) W...   Jan 18 2015, 04:59 PM
- - acid911   Our biggest problem are the background characters....   Jan 18 2015, 04:45 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 18 2015, 03:45 PM) O...   Jan 18 2015, 04:57 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2015, 09:57 PM) Not...   Jan 18 2015, 05:07 PM
- - han2503   I think it's high time Galliani evaluated Pipp...   Jan 18 2015, 04:55 PM
- - Danny   Pippo out. That is all.   Jan 18 2015, 04:56 PM
- - X-Offender   Milan under Allegri, Seedorf and Inzaghi in the la...   Jan 18 2015, 05:05 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 18 2015, 10...   Jan 18 2015, 05:13 PM
- - acid911   Oh, and just for the record, I believe we'd ha...   Jan 18 2015, 05:16 PM
|- - il_diavolo_mtl   QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 18 2015, 01:16 PM) O...   Jan 18 2015, 08:18 PM
- - il_diavolo_mtl   Also i've read that abate called out Cerci on ...   Jan 18 2015, 08:20 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 18 2015, 07:2...   Jan 18 2015, 09:21 PM
- - Danny   I'm going to give some ratings for the hell of...   Jan 18 2015, 09:20 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2015, 09:20 PM) Mon...   Jan 19 2015, 01:09 AM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 19 2015, 12...   Jan 19 2015, 01:06 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2015, 06:08 PM) I...   Jan 20 2015, 12:05 AM
- - Danny   PS the Cerci Abate spat has been more or less conf...   Jan 18 2015, 10:52 PM
- - X-Offender   Just re-watched the goal. It's clearly De Jong...   Jan 19 2015, 12:25 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 19 2015, 11...   Jan 19 2015, 01:08 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 19 2015, 01:08 PM) Lik...   Jan 19 2015, 03:15 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Don't forget your golden boy, Montolivo. Plent...   Jan 19 2015, 03:20 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 19 2015, 02:2...   Jan 19 2015, 03:51 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 19 2015, 03:2...   Jan 19 2015, 04:41 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2015, 06:41 PM) Y...   Jan 19 2015, 05:39 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 19 2015, 05:3...   Jan 19 2015, 06:08 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2015, 03:41 PM) @...   Jan 19 2015, 10:03 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 19 2015, 10:03 PM) My ...   Jan 19 2015, 10:50 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2015, 09:50 PM) P...   Jan 19 2015, 10:57 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2015, 08:08 PM) I...   Jan 20 2015, 01:51 AM
- - Danny   tbh Monto isn't like any of them Pippo. He has...   Jan 20 2015, 03:40 AM
- - X-Offender   This is mind-blowing. There were reports yesterday...   Jan 20 2015, 07:01 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 20 2015, 09...   Jan 20 2015, 07:09 PM
||- - X-Offender   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 20 2015, 07:09 ...   Jan 20 2015, 07:13 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 20 2015, 09...   Jan 20 2015, 08:16 PM
|- - Forza Milan!   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 20 2015, 08...   Jan 21 2015, 02:42 AM
- - Danny   As much as Bertie and Gimrod have a part to play, ...   Jan 21 2015, 02:33 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 21 2015, 08:4...   Jan 21 2015, 04:02 PM
|- - Forza Milan!   QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 21 2015, 05:23 PM) Rea...   Jan 21 2015, 06:01 PM
- - Danny   The day X off gives any kind of 'support' ...   Jan 21 2015, 03:28 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Balotelli was the difference maker, while SES and ...   Jan 21 2015, 08:18 PM
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