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post Jan 15 2015, 11:28 AM
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Alex and Mexes would be a very slow pairing. They're not compatible.
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2015, 09:30 PM) *
Alex and Mexes would be a very slow pairing. They're not compatible.

Rami isn't exactly lightning quick either

The only real fast CB we have is Zapata and he comes in with a whole host of issues of his own

Alex and Mexes might not be quick, but neither are Terry and Cahill for example at Chelsea and they're one of the best CB duos around right now

It's not about how fast you are, this isn't Fifa, it's about how tactically aware you are and your positional sense. And Mexes and Alex both have these key ingredients, unlike Zapata or Rami
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 16 2015, 09:29 PM) *
Rami isn't exactly lightning quick either

The only real fast CB we have is Zapata and he comes in with a whole host of issues of his own

Alex and Mexes might not be quick, but neither are Terry and Cahill for example at Chelsea and they're one of the best CB duos around right now

It's not about how fast you are, this isn't Fifa, it's about how tactically aware you are and your positional sense. And Mexes and Alex both have these key ingredients, unlike Zapata or Rami


You don't watch Chelsea that often. Terry is the Alex/Mexes of the partnership and Cahill the Zapata.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2015, 11:17 PM) *
You don't watch Chelsea that often. Terry is the Alex/Mexes of the partnership and Cahill the Zapata.

I watch Chelsea regularly, and no way is Cahill the Zapata, he's not fast imo, both him and Terry are strong and have good positioning

As for Zapata he's just a decent defender who is speedy, every other important aspect that is crucial for a defender is lacking.

Even if they are both slow, I'd rather have 2 really good defenders capable of taking care of themselves without needing to have their hands held (both Zapata and Rami are this way), who are tactically smart and have good positioning that makes the speed factor not as important as when you have Zapata who's caught out but is fast enough to usually run back (we saw this failing just last week when he wasn't quick enough to get back and gave away the penalty because of the late tackle)

I'd rather have our 2 best defenders playing with each other, than playing just one of them and a much weaker one just to fit into some mould of what a CB pairing should consist of.

As for your theory that you keep insisting on that Zapata-Alex is our best pairing, I don't know where you came up with that since they only performed well together in that first game and have been shaky when they've played together again since then. Arguably our strongest showings in defence came with Mexes and Zapata or Rami next to him
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 19 - Milan - Atalanta   Jan 15 2015, 11:28 AM
- - Danny   Allegri Jnr v his old team. Let's take the ti...   Jan 15 2015, 04:35 PM
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- - X-Offender   Some reports suggesting we could play 4-2-3-1 Mon...   Jan 15 2015, 06:53 PM
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- - X-Offender   Here's Mediaset's line-up anyway: Lopez; A...   Jan 15 2015, 07:39 PM
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- - Danny   Like I said, at the time of me saying it we had ne...   Jan 18 2015, 10:31 AM
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