[Danny]

Every club has this, but as we know, Milan are not every club.

Basically the most illustrious teams in any club's history are usually what fans would describe as a class befitting the club's name. The standard they expect.

For Barca they will always expect Messi/Iniesta/Xavi/Ronaldinho/Eto'o type quality. Won't settle for less now. Man Utd expect Giggs, Van Persie, Ferdinand etc.

For us it's clearly the quality of Maldini, Baresi, Boban, Pirlo, old Kaka, Gullit, MVB etc etc.

Question is will we ever see 'Milan class' again?

Right now we have debatably one player who comes close to being uttered in that kind of breath, Balotelli. And truth is he isn't the finished article, his attitude is often disgraceful and that's now 5 matches we've lost him for through poor conduct.

We have very good players like De Jong (imo arguably one of the top 5 DM's around), Monto (out of form at the moment admittedly) and Kaka (nowhere near convincing anyone he's back to the old Kaka) but other than Balo we basically have no 'Milan class' players at all.

Right now this Milan is a new breed, a team we're not familiar with. We're having to be content with Abate, Mexes, Zapata and DS when it used to be Cafu, Maldini, Nesta and Jankulovski.

Times have changed and it may be decades before the true Milan class returns.

[kurtsimonw]

Barca make a profit? I'm really surprised at that.

[Danny]

Barca make a profit? I'm really surprised at that.

About 50M last year.

PS again, Jackie Boy you've just given too much to reply to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

One point I would make is no one ever counted Milanello in revenue? How can an asset be included in turnover? It's an operating cost, just like Murray Park is to Rangers.

R7: I know! Didn't I say in my OP it would be decades before the true Milan returns? Europe has shifted from the old guard of Italy, Holland and France to Germany, England (ish) and Madrid aside, Spain.

The old Ajax, Marseille, PSV, Milan, Feyenood, Juve, Inter, Liverpool, and Monaco are now yesterday's clubs and it's Bayern, Man Utd, City, Chelsea, Dortmund, PSG, Russian and Eastern Bloc clubs which are the epicentre of European football.

This post has been edited by Danny: Sep 25 2013, 03:57 PM

[Jack Sparrow]

About 50M last year.

PS again, Jackie Boy you've just given too much to reply to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

One point I would make is no one ever counted Milanello in revenue? How can an asset be included in turnover? It's an operating cost, just like Murray Park is to Rangers.

R7: I know! Didn't I say in my OP it would be decades before the true Milan returns? Europe has shifted from the old guard of Italy, Holland and France to Germany, England (ish) and Madrid aside, Spain.

The old Ajax, Marseille, PSV, Milan, Feyenood, Juve, Inter, Liverpool, and Monaco are now yesterday's clubs and it's Bayern, Man Utd, City, Chelsea, Dortmund, PSG, Russian and Eastern Bloc clubs which are the epicentre of European football.

Oh no no. Sorry if I wasn't clear. So an asset would also add to your total worth, without actually providing you revenue. But it's a huge bargain chip in terms of credit lines.

So your total worth might be a million dollars, but perhaps 900k is from the house and the field your granduncle left you in an inheritance. Your actual money might be 100k.

This is for e.g. how the Glazers puchased Man United. By taking a loan mortgaging the value of their yet-to-be-owned asset.