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Danny
post May 7 2012, 10:56 AM
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Difficult to know where to start - it's been a crushingly disappointing 24 hours. On this forum there are huge splits in terms of where the blame lies. If indeed there is any real blame.

Last summer of 2011 we had the real potential, having won the league and secured entry to the CL, to enhance the squad with real quality. Invest in the team and make us elite again. We got Aquilani, Sharrawy, Mexes, Nocerino and Muntari.

None of these are achingly poor players, but they were hardly the marquee quality we needed - and despite an honourable showing against Barca, we didn't win the CL and in the league we've been extremely inconsistent.

It's very difficult to know where to start - but the one critical change we need is squad investment. We do have very good players, wonderful players, but not enough of them. When you look at the top clubs they have at least 20 top top players - City, United, Barca, Real, Bayern - big world class squads designed to cope with injuries, suspensions, and a genuine challenge for the top honours.

We don't have that. We do have the CL again next season, and the default money which comes from that, but Silvio, with a bit of time on his hands these days, really does have to make some big signings. The fans need a boost, and frankly many millions require spending.

As for Allegri - as long as I have been a Milan fan fellow Rossoneri have never agreed on the manager - from Carlo, to Leo, to Allegri - all have been 'wrong' in the eyes of the fans no matter what they won.

Problem is a manager is only one man - 100% of fans are never going to agree with you, and even winning a league might not be enough to prove your doubters wrong.

So I don't know where I stand on the boss.

But I do know this squad needs reinforcement of the highest quality - guys who will cost a fortune but be definite starters and take us up a level.
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post May 9 2012, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 9 2012, 12:38 AM) *
The fact you call it 'ridiculous' highlights how stubborn you are. It's a completely subjective viewpoint, but you're calling it ridiculous, as if your own opinion is the only one which counts.

Why does that make me stubborn? It's my oppinion.

I think you're being stubborn by not accepting that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We debate here, what I say does not mean that I'm trying to change your mind on the issue, I just voice my oppinion while you disagree and voice yours. And once again, I will never agree that Juve have the better squad than us, certainly not when you look at the team sheet like that on paper. In a real life scenario when half of our team are injured with most of those being first 11 players than it's another thing altogether. But when you put the 2 teams like that next to each other than I can never agree with you or kurt that Juve have the better team

QUOTE (Danny @ May 9 2012, 12:38 AM) *
Disagree. We simply didn't manage to beat either Inter or Juve this season. Like it or not, imo that lost us the league. We struggled against most of the top sides - whether it was player performance, managerial error, refereeing mistake - whatever.

Our results against Inter and Juve were poor, and our results V the other good sides was average.

You can retread this squad line and Allegri line all you like, it's your opinion, as this is mine.

You don't win anything if you can't beat the big rivals.

I never said anything about the big teams. I agree that our record against those teams is appaling and had we even won one or 2 of those games, even against Napoli or Lazio than this would be a different stroy, but that's not the case. We have been poor this season, Allegri imo, compared to last season has been very poor, while the injuries have to be taken into account as well.

But, had we had a full squad to choose from throughout the season than I think that at least some of those results would have gone our way. Certainly the games against Lazio, Napoli and Juve would have gone differently. You might see this as a contradiction seeing as I said that Allegri has been a huge problem for us, but even with his stubborn streak and refusal to incorporate a moredynamic system, with the players he should have had without the injuries, we'd most likely be celebrating the title right now. The injuries crippled us, and some of Allegri's decisions compounded that imo. That's why I feel that this failure is 50/50 in terms of blame, half has to rest on Allegri's shoulders, the other has to be the injuries.
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- Danny   Where next for Milan?   May 7 2012, 10:56 AM
- - kurtsimonw   When Max actually gets investment and "fails...   May 7 2012, 11:44 AM
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- - Zed.D   First of all we must look into the injury problems...   May 7 2012, 12:40 PM
- - Danny   I kinda hoped we could discuss this without squabb...   May 7 2012, 02:54 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ May 7 2012, 01:54 PM) I ki...   May 7 2012, 03:03 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ May 7 2012, 03:03 PM) I ...   May 7 2012, 03:25 PM
- - Danny   Can't agree we have a far better squad than Ju...   May 7 2012, 03:31 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ May 7 2012, 02:31 PM) Can...   May 7 2012, 03:37 PM
- - acid911   Our first XI is twice as good as their first XI. ...   May 7 2012, 03:47 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (acid911 @ May 7 2012, 02:47 PM) Ou...   May 7 2012, 03:57 PM
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|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (acid911 @ May 7 2012, 03:47 PM) Ou...   May 7 2012, 05:27 PM
- - Danny   I agree on the first 11 thing, I don't agree o...   May 7 2012, 04:07 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ May 7 2012, 03:07 PM) I ag...   May 7 2012, 04:29 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ May 7 2012, 04:29 PM) We...   May 7 2012, 07:32 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I actually think theirs is worse. The fact is play...   May 7 2012, 04:23 PM
- - acid911   I was speaking potential wise, Kurt, you are talki...   May 7 2012, 05:32 PM
- - servbot   The medical/training staff/technique must be looke...   May 7 2012, 07:44 PM
|- - Zed.D   QUOTE (servbot @ May 7 2012, 11:14 PM) Th...   May 7 2012, 08:12 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ May 7 2012, 07:32 PM) Have...   May 7 2012, 08:25 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (han2503 @ May 7 2012, 08:25 PM) Ho...   May 8 2012, 01:27 PM
- - Zed.D   ^^ I'm disappointed in Galliani. this guy is s...   May 8 2012, 02:47 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Juve's older players aren't also a 'bu...   May 8 2012, 02:50 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ May 8 2012, 12:27 PM) You...   May 8 2012, 03:20 PM
- - X-Offender   Barzagli is actually a good defender. Bonucci is t...   May 8 2012, 03:25 PM
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- - acid911   Well, Han's known as The Great DebaterĀ® in th...   May 8 2012, 08:43 PM
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