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post Sep 3 2011, 11:48 AM
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Not the best game to start our season with and to add to that it will be a mere few days before the Barca match. But we'll need to do the most professional job we can to get those 3 points
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post Sep 9 2011, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2011, 11:47 AM) *
I believe our AM tracking back is one of the key things in Allegri's formation. An AM should not only be just creative. With Aquilani we got creativity elsewhere in midfield, and in attack there's also creativity.

We need Boateng working his @ss off because we've got an almost-man on the right, also note that things started going well for us, regardless of where Boateng played, when VB was brought in. Boateng has nothing to do with stability. Had we continued to play with Ambro and Rino there we wouldn't have done so well in the second part of the season. Boateng will still do a top notch job of covering the midfield from a deeper position, him playing behind the strikers is unnecassary, and imo, he does not provide the creative support that our strikers need.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 9 2011, 12:00 PM) *
But I don't think his creativity, Boatengs that is, will suffice. Long term speaking. And also, to me it's a complete nonsense. The AM has to track back because you have two invalid DM's fielded; that's Allegri's system. If it were two proper DM's, the AM would naturally be more free, but since it's Ambro and Rino together, yes, it's the Allegri system.

Completely agreed with you

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2011, 12:09 PM) *
I don't think it's a matter of how many DMs and how good, but having four mids playing being an advantage.

It's a huge issue. The right sided DM shouldn't be there, and Allegri tops it off by playing a combative player behind the strikers instead of a creative player. VB is more then enough, play Boateng in his natural position and a proper AM and we'll see some really good things this season, but Allegri seems dead set on it. In Serie A we might be able to bulldoze over some sides, mostly thanks to Zlatan. But in Europe we need more, we need too keep possesion, control the tempo, etc. And we won't be able to do this with Rino in that midfield and a player like Boateng supporting the strikers.

Imo, this is Allegri's real test, Serie A has gotten stronger after last season, and he has to do better then the humiliation of last season in Europe. I don't care about last season, that is done. Like Filippo says, this will be the season that determines whether he's a Zaccheroni or Ancelotti

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 9 2011, 12:20 PM) *
Boateng as AM worked well for us last season, much better than Cassano/Robinho there. We won't play them there unless we have an injury crisis or are are behind during the match. Anyway, it will be less of an issue after Aquilani and Nocerino will settle in.

The most significant aspect of last season was VB, not where Boateng played. We were lucky to get out of jams such as the Chievo games thanks to individual brilliance from our strikers. Boateng does not provide the support our strikers should have. And playing Rino on the right is useless, especially when there is a much better player in Boateng who can play there and we have different options for the AM position.

Robinho, Cassano, Aquilani or Seedorf can all play that position and support Pato and Zlatan better, while Boateng is sill putting a lot of hard work from deeper
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2011, 03:41 PM) *
we need too keep possesion, control the tempo, etc.

That is exactly why 4 mids is better than 3 mids. So I don't get why you then prefer Cassano over Kevin.
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- han2503   Serie A - Week 2 - Milan - Lazio   Sep 3 2011, 11:48 AM
- - Danny   Do we know who will be available for us. Well, who...   Sep 3 2011, 01:23 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 3 2011, 02:23 PM) Do w...   Sep 3 2011, 03:12 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 3 2011, 02:1...   Sep 3 2011, 03:28 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 3 2011, 04:28 PM) Do...   Sep 3 2011, 03:29 PM
- - I_Rossoneri   I'd sooner a test like this before Barca rathe...   Sep 3 2011, 02:30 PM
- - nuh   we should play with a abbiati,abate,nesta,silva,za...   Sep 3 2011, 06:28 PM
- - han2503   The starting 11 that plays against Lazio should be...   Sep 3 2011, 07:13 PM
- - X-Offender   The most optimal choices in midfield would be Van ...   Sep 3 2011, 07:42 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 3 2011, 02:4...   Sep 3 2011, 08:29 PM
- - han2503   Seedorf will play, I'm 100% sure of this. My ...   Sep 4 2011, 10:42 AM
- - CHU-LIP   I think our midfield will exist of Boateng as our ...   Sep 4 2011, 12:15 PM
- - RinoIlCapitano   I know that is not gona happen but i would play wi...   Sep 4 2011, 12:44 PM
- - nuh   i think seedorf is a must for barca   Sep 4 2011, 02:02 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 4 2011, 12:15 P...   Sep 4 2011, 03:51 PM
|- - RinoIlCapitano   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 4 2011, 02:51 PM) Th...   Sep 4 2011, 04:18 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Sep 4 2011, 04:18...   Sep 4 2011, 04:20 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Sep 4 2011, 05:18...   Sep 4 2011, 04:34 PM
- - Rossoneri7   oh the headache   Sep 5 2011, 12:05 AM
- - Danny   Confused as to why this one isn't on in the UK...   Sep 5 2011, 12:32 PM
- - X-Offender   Probable line-up according to Gazzetta and Mediase...   Sep 5 2011, 03:33 PM
|- - Dracoris   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 5 2011, 10:3...   Sep 5 2011, 03:39 PM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 5 2011, 04:39 PM) M...   Sep 5 2011, 04:04 PM
- - Jack Bauer   Nocerino will begin training with the team on arou...   Sep 5 2011, 04:04 PM
- - Dracoris   I did say Aquilani OR Nocerino. Doubt having Aqui...   Sep 5 2011, 04:22 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 5 2011, 02:3...   Sep 5 2011, 04:33 PM
- - X-Offender   Playing Barça so early is really a blow for us. I...   Sep 5 2011, 05:19 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE Nocerino is our best DM after Van Bommel. ...   Sep 5 2011, 07:41 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 08:41...   Sep 5 2011, 08:05 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 06:41...   Sep 5 2011, 08:20 PM
|- - il_diavolo_mtl   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 5 2011, 03:20 PM) Ha...   Sep 6 2011, 03:38 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE Have you seen Ambro playing this pre-season?...   Sep 5 2011, 08:40 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 07:40...   Sep 5 2011, 08:54 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 5 2011, 09:54 PM) Su...   Sep 5 2011, 09:56 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 08:56...   Sep 5 2011, 10:14 PM
- - X-Offender   Either way, Ambro should only be used as Van Bomme...   Sep 5 2011, 08:53 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Naah, Ambro is simply better. It may be just a pre...   Sep 5 2011, 10:17 PM
|- - il_diavolo_mtl   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 05:17...   Sep 6 2011, 03:43 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Sep 6 2011, 04:43...   Sep 6 2011, 03:47 PM
- - X-Offender   Honestly, I don't remember Ambro being so reck...   Sep 5 2011, 11:16 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Han's a fan, he knows better for sure   Sep 5 2011, 11:23 PM
- - X-Offender   I think Ambro has, is and will always be better th...   Sep 6 2011, 03:54 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2011, 10:17...   Sep 6 2011, 09:44 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE And did he ever really have what it takes to...   Sep 6 2011, 03:42 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 02:42...   Sep 6 2011, 04:06 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE But come on Ambro is no box-to-box, have we ...   Sep 6 2011, 04:22 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 04:22...   Sep 6 2011, 04:37 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Naah, I can't agree with you on that. Maybe th...   Sep 6 2011, 04:52 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 03:52...   Sep 6 2011, 05:38 PM
- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 6 2011, 05:52...   Sep 6 2011, 05:45 PM
- - KillerMax   tasty Swiss cheese have flaws? DAMN IT!!   Sep 6 2011, 06:51 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 6 2011, 04:4...   Sep 6 2011, 09:53 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   the game is on bet365 schedule along with other se...   Sep 7 2011, 03:17 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   AC Milan have scored in their first league game of...   Sep 7 2011, 03:56 PM
|- - arivanjj   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 8 2011, 12:56 A...   Sep 8 2011, 05:50 AM
- - Suhail 3   It ll be intresting to see what frame of mind the ...   Sep 7 2011, 09:24 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Hmm...Milan have never beaten Lazio with Ibra in t...   Sep 8 2011, 06:11 AM
- - d'Arc.LP   AC Milan are unbeaten in the last 26 league games ...   Sep 8 2011, 08:09 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   F@Ck you....try and be a little pessimistic for a ...   Sep 8 2011, 12:28 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Naah, this is a much much more competitive Lazio. ...   Sep 8 2011, 12:37 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   ^^ Thank you! At last some proper perspective...   Sep 8 2011, 12:45 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   I don't see us not winning this one. Lazio is ...   Sep 8 2011, 01:17 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 8 2011, 01:17 P...   Sep 8 2011, 01:52 PM
- - arivanjj   Lazio started very well last season and they have ...   Sep 8 2011, 01:54 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Here’s what coach Massimiliano Allegri had to sa...   Sep 8 2011, 02:45 PM
- - han2503   I'm hoping that Barca isn't the only thing...   Sep 8 2011, 03:12 PM
- - kurtsimonw   I don't think we beat Roma either.   Sep 8 2011, 03:17 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 8 2011, 02:17 PM)...   Sep 8 2011, 03:19 PM
- - Boban10   Coach Massimiliano Allegri then picked the followi...   Sep 8 2011, 07:08 PM
- - han2503   I really fear that we'll see a Rino, Ambro, Se...   Sep 8 2011, 07:30 PM
|- - d'Arc.LP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2011, 08:30 PM) I ...   Sep 8 2011, 07:45 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 8 2011, 07:45 P...   Sep 8 2011, 08:51 PM
|- - Jack Bauer   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:30 PM) I ...   Sep 9 2011, 01:07 AM
- - William405   Ambrosini instead of Van Bommel? Otherwise,this i...   Sep 9 2011, 01:48 AM
- - Jack Bauer   Van Bommel returned with some small problem after ...   Sep 9 2011, 01:55 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Who is gonna be our left back?? :-/   Sep 9 2011, 06:40 AM
- - han2503   Maybe VB will start and get subbed off if we'r...   Sep 9 2011, 10:11 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Great. Ok...and thus we shall begin our campaign o...   Sep 9 2011, 10:51 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Now it's funny, but in a few hours this place ...   Sep 9 2011, 10:57 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 9 2011, 10:57...   Sep 9 2011, 11:01 AM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2011, 12:01 PM) ...   Sep 9 2011, 12:01 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2011, 12:01 P...   Sep 9 2011, 12:44 PM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2011, 01:44 PM) He...   Sep 9 2011, 12:47 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   antonini defintely ahead of bonera (bonera at LB m...   Sep 9 2011, 11:28 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   But I don't think his creativity, Boatengs tha...   Sep 9 2011, 01:00 PM
- - CHU-LIP   I don't think it's a matter of how many DM...   Sep 9 2011, 01:09 PM
- - Jack Bauer   Boateng as AM worked well for us last season, much...   Sep 9 2011, 01:20 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2011, 01:50 P...   Sep 9 2011, 02:53 PM
||- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2011, 03:53 PM) Ca...   Sep 9 2011, 03:03 PM
|- - Jack Bauer   QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2011, 04:41 PM) Th...   Sep 9 2011, 03:17 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Only just realised the game's today. Any reaso...   Sep 9 2011, 03:01 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 9 2011, 07:01 PM)...   Sep 9 2011, 03:05 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 9 2011, 03:05 PM) Be...   Sep 9 2011, 03:20 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 9 2011, 07:20 PM)...   Sep 9 2011, 03:26 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Well, few Serie A matches used to be played Friday...   Sep 9 2011, 03:41 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2011, 03:03 P...   Sep 9 2011, 03:48 PM
- - kdman   All said and done, my problem is Allegri's fix...   Sep 9 2011, 04:24 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (kdman @ Sep 9 2011, 04:24 PM) All ...   Sep 9 2011, 05:07 PM
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