[Fillipo Simone]

Important derby. Very curious to see how it goes.

[CHU-LIP]

Zlatan needs to score goals, he's not an AM, yes he can create, but not in the way an AM can, he's more of a quick pass player when the opportunity comes along. As for Robinho, you can write it down which ever way you want, but ultimately we will see a trident on the pitch, thus pushing Pato to the right wing, which imo is ridiculous and a complete waste.

If there is one player who needs to score goals it's Pato, followed by Ibrahimovic - so the latter can/should do more than just being the CF. We should not have two CF's who are just there to score goals. Pato is our greatest goalscoring threat, and Zlatan can do a whole lot more for our team so why not using his other benefits also?

Why Pato on the right wing? I put him as LCF. Robinho can go to both wings. At least it's what I want to see, not saying it will happen, that's why I agreed with you I want some tactical changes. I want a tactic where Pato is most as CF.

As for the movement part you talk about. The movement has to come mostly from the midfield 3 which is why I'd want a Flamini, Boateng duo covering Pirlo, a game is won in midfield so having that strong 3 in the middle will give us a big advantage, now if Dinho is playing in front of them it will be more compact, and we'll have creativity through the center, while if Robinho plays we'll have more width, imo both are great options to habve, just don't agree with X-off that the one with Robinho should be used in the big games. It all depends on the way we want to play, imo if you want to win the midfield battle and keep possession then the Dinho option would be the most ideal, while the one with Robs is quicker.

Both are great options, I agree. But how can you disagree with the bold part? How more evidence you want to see that Ronaldinho rocks against weaker sides, and sucks against stronger sides? Against the top sides it should be a no brainer for Robinho.

It's not because he did well last season!! Read my above post.

This one wasn't referred to you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Oct 27 2010, 07:03 PM

[han2503]

If there is one player who needs to score goals it's Pato, followed by Ibrahimovic - so the latter can/should do more than just being the CF. We should not have two CF's who are just there to score goals. Pato is our greatest goalscoring threat, and Zlatan can do a whole lot more for our team so why not using his other benefits also?

Why Pato on the right wing? I put him as LCF. Robinho can go to both wings. At least it's what I want to see, not saying it will happen, that's why I agreed with you I want some tactical changes.

Imo, if we want to win the league, both should get 20+ goals this season. With Dinho and Robinho both chipping in with their's as well.

Also neither of them should be the CF. They both play in the striker positions when playing the 4-3-1-2, ie, we get the best out of both. Not waste one of them in order to utilise the other.

Exactly what I'm saying here. playing Robinho even though it will work, when we wish to play a certain way will immediately force us into a s man attacking line. You can draw it on a paper however you want, but what we see on the pitch is what matters and what we'll see is Pato on one wing, Robinho drifting center to wing and Ibra in the middle.

Both are great options, I agree. But how can you disagree with the bold part? How more evidence you want to see that Ronaldinho rocks against weaker sides, and sucks against stronger sides? Against the top sides it should be a no brainer for Robinho.

Oh my! can't believe I'm getting into this!! WHAT EVIDENCE??? The Real Madrid game? That's the only big game we played For God's Sake!!! And if you're going to base your theory on that game, then no one from that 11 who started (aside from Amelia) should be playing in big games, because they all played like cr@p

As for last season, he showed up against Juve, both times, Man U and Roma, yes he played cr@p against Inter but who the hell didn't last season?

[CHU-LIP]

Exactly what I'm saying here. playing Robinho even though it will work, when we wish to play a certain way will immediately force us into a s man attacking line. You can draw it on a paper however you want, but what we see on the pitch is what matters and what we'll see is Pato on one wing, Robinho drifting center to wing and Ibra in the middle.

Ibra in the middle is what should be different, and that's possible, because he likes to be all over the place, so Pato can be the CF. (Remember his assists? He was in LM/LW position when he made that cross - okay, Ronaldinho was the one playing that match, but it shows Ibra can be all over the place and have Pato as CF - just like the 2nd goal). We will see what will happen, I just hope we will see Allegri winning our games, so have a good line-up with good tactics, and my preference go to the one with Pato, Zlatan and Robinho. It's what I see working, also against the stronger opponents. Proof enough Ronaldinho is poor against strong sides. How easily he is marked out, and useless then. Annoying to see. No more please!