[Fillipo Simone]

Important derby. Very curious to see how it goes.

[han2503]

Thankfully Pirlo and Ibrahimovic are, and they need players like Robinho and Boateng rather than Ronaldinho and Seedorf. It's time to play with both creative players and those who add something else called pace, work rate and movement.


So if Oddo gives assists it's lucky? It's only not lucky when Ronaldinho (or Pirlo) gives an assist, right? This is actually exactly what I like to see: different players in the team that gives assists. Finally not just Ronaldinho, but one time Ibrahimovic, the other time a full back (FINALLY - isn't full backs givings assists what we were dying to see?), and Boateng, Pirlo, Robinho etc. should be able to give assists also. Not only the creative players can/should give assists. We have Pirlo and Ibrahimovic in our team, one of the most creative midfielders and one of the most creative CF's. They need to be surrounded by players like Boateng and Robinho. Enough of too many players who hold up our play, enough of the predictable playing style, enough of the lack of movement, work rate and pace in our team. Robinho's pace and movement links our midfield and attack better, and of course you will have less creativity in your team with benching Ronaldinho, but we still have others for that. What Robinho adds, if you bench him, we will lack something actually.

I did not say it was lucky, I said we were lucky to score because Napoli's defence was terrible on both goals. While their finishing was just as terrible. They had more chances then us, better chances. I fail to see how ou 2 can view this match as a positive aside from the result.

Like I keep saying to X-off, yess Pirlo is a creative player, but if Allegri keeps insisting on playing him in front of the defence then we'll need a true AM on the field. Ad I'm not saying that I don't like that we actually managed to score from play from the wings that Dinho wasn't involved in, but let's face it, do you really believe that Oddo can pull off more then a handful of performances like that. Our strength is the middle

Flamini--Pirlo--Boateng

Not the wings. So when Oddo or the other FBs don't play like that where are the goals coming from. Pirlo is shackled doing defensive work. Which again is my main issue

Anyway, my main point is, if we're going to play without Dinho, I'm more then fine with it, as long as we play like this

defence
Flamini--Boateng
Pirlo
Pato--Ibra--Robinho

Don't get me started on the Pato issues this formation brings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

But if Allegri keeps insisting on having Pirlo so deep then Dinho needs to play

defence
Flamini--Pirlo--Boateng
Dinho
Pato--Ibra

Comparing teams and players is only natural han, don't make it look like some sort of heresy. I'm just saying that in terms of quality, Inter are not that far ahead from us. The aspect where Inter have crushed us completely in the last few years is what I mentioned above. You honestly, truly, sincerely believe that if Ronaldinho and/or Seedorf had played against Napoli, things would have turned in our favor? We played the best possible eleven on Monday, out of the players we had available.

But you're comparing the way we shopuld play to them as well, which imo is impossible. They have Cambiasso as their DM, he's not a one dimensional DM like Rino/Ambro or even Flamini even if he can do more than the other 2. And whikle Boateng is turning out to be a great player for us, he can't be compared to Zanetti, first off they're completely different types of players, and Zanetti is just better in general.

As for Seedorf I don't believe he should be a starter, simple, not because he's not capable but because he's just unable to play 90 minutes anymore. the game against Napoli, I'm not even making this about Dinho, but we had a gap between midfield and attack, and we couldn't create anything though build up, why? Because Pirlo was playing so further back, what's the point of having a creative player like that and having him back there doing the dirty work, and this was my initial point, but I got sucked into the Dinho issue again. Had it been Dinho that played yesterday, we would have seen a different game altogether and I do believe we would have still won while playing better. We had no control of the midfield in the second half. How do you see that as a positive thing?

Go take a nap, pal. Clearly you fail to grasp common sense.

And another (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) to this. I only respond when you want to talk like an actual adult (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

THANK YOU!

Your tag team routine really brings tears to my eyes. It's just beutiful... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

I did not say it was lucky, I said we were lucky to score because Napoli's defence was terrible on both goals. While their finishing was just as terrible. They had more chances then us, better chances. I fail to see how ou 2 can view this match as a positive aside from the result.

You were talking about lucky goals...

For the rest of your post... well... I am open for some tactical changes... but IMO it should be with Pato, Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Pirlo, Boateng and a DM as our forwards and midfielders. I would put them like this:

Pato, Zlatan
Robinho
Boateng, Pirlo, Rino/Flam

Because Robinho is someone who likes to go wide, Pirlo can go to AMC like what you like to see (except I got Pato then as either the CF, or LF, depending to which wing Robinho is going). Of course it shouldn't be Gattuso who is going forward, and Pirlo who is staying back. I mean then it's better to play Flamini over Gattuso, though if he shows he earns it because Gattuso is earning his spot. I also like Zlatan to drop back and go to AMC, I like to see Zlatan and Pirlo going to attacking midfield to create but Pirlo also will have to do his more defensive midfield stuff and Zlatan his forward stuff. Robinho will move enough to make this possible. I want to see lots of movement and non-slow downed attacks. We will have enough players who can create but also players who will move.