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Fillipo Simone
post Oct 26 2010, 03:21 PM
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Important derby. Very curious to see how it goes.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 27 2010, 02:49 PM) *
As for always covers...what...a few weeks, two months?


More like three years.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2010, 03:02 PM) *
You're basically saying that we played great against Napoli, simply to prove your point that we can't play without Dinho, which is ridiculous because we only managed to play decnt for 30 minutes against Napoli, this while having the advantage with the extra man. You're saying we created a lot of chances, when in reality non of them came from build up play, simply to point out that we can play without a playmaker, who ever that is.


I'm saying that we managed to keep up against a dynamic team like Napoli because our two handicaps in these sort of games, Seedorf and Ronaldinho, didn't play. The team was much more balanced, determined and fast. Everyone was running to win balls for the whole 90 minutes, and we won because these factors allowed us to.

In my eyes, Pirlo is a playmaker. Take Inter's midfield and attack last season (Cambiasso, Zanetti, Sneijder, Pandev, Eto'o and Milito), the only creative player in that bunch was Sneijder, yet they managed to overpower any opponent along their way. Why? Because they lacked quality? No. Because they had a well-functioning mechanism, with players willing to sacrifice themselves for the benefit of the team. This is how you win in modern football nowadays. Quality is just one variable. You also need determination, motivation and the spirit of sacrifice to succeed.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2010, 03:02 PM) *
As for Dinho and his ability to play at high levels, you only came up with that theory after the Real game, where yes he played like cr@p but so did the rest of the team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You b!thed about his work rate before, then when he did start working a lot you found something else to b!tch about.


So what if I mentioned it only after the game against Madrid. Does it conceal the fact that during his three years of Milan, he's always flopped in the big games? Save the first derby against Inter and the home game against Manchester, the guy has been a huge disappointment when duty called him to be a protagonist. Why? BECAUSE HE CAN'T PLAY AT HIGH LEVELS ANYMORE. Fix this in your little head, my dear han.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 27 2010, 01:38 PM) *
I'm saying that we managed to keep up against a dynamic team like Napoli because our two handicaps in these sort of games, Seedorf and Ronaldinho, didn't play. The team was much more balanced, determined and fast. Everyone was running to win balls for the whole 90 minutes, and we won because these factors allowed us to.

In my eyes, Pirlo is a playmaker. Take Inter's midfield and attack last season (Cambiasso, Zanetti, Sneijder, Pandev, Eto'o and Milito), the only creative player in that bunch was Sneijder, yet they managed to overpower any opponent along their way. Why? Because they lacked quality? No. Because they had a well-functioning mechanism, with players willing to sacrifice themselves for the benefit of the team. This is how you win in modern football nowadays. Quality is just one variable. You also need determination, motivation and the spirit of sacrifice to succeed.

You're comparing apples to oranges (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Inter have Cambiasso, Zanetti and Sneijder, while we have Rino, Pirlo and Boateng. Totally different thing. Also the fact that we play Pirlo in front of the defence instead of higher up the pitch like Inter play Sneijder changes things completely.

Again you're trying to justify something, without having any basis for it. We are not Inter, we don't hae the same players Inter do, thus can't play like them. The reason we got sh!t out of that Napoli game was because A. The ref helped us big time. B. Napoli's finishing was as sh!t as their defence on both our goals. Again trying to make it seem like something it's not to prove your point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 27 2010, 01:38 PM) *
So what if I mentioned it only after the game against Madrid. Does it conceal the fact that during his three years of Milan, he's always flopped in the big games? Save the first derby against Inter and the home game against Manchester, the guy has been a huge disappointment when duty called him to be a protagonist. Why? BECAUSE HE CAN'T PLAY AT HIGH LEVELS ANYMORE. Fix this in your little head, my dear han.

All I have to say to this is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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