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Serie A - Week 8. Napoli vs Milan., 25 October 2010 |
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Oct 20 2010, 07:59 PM
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Maybe I didn't express myself properly. Maybe not overrated, but Flamini and Boateng are barely tested and I see no reason why I should belive in them so much.
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Oct 21 2010, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 12:31 PM)  Should we keep believing in Seedorf and Gattuso then? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Fillipo, can you please offer a response to this question? You say you don't trust them because they aren't tested. Well then doesn't that logically beg the question: Why not test them to see if we can trust them? You've seen the results when we've played our "tested" players. And this term "Milan quality" really needs to be dissected a little bit. How can you be making claims that Flamini is not "Milan quality" when you admit that our coaches haven't given him a chance? Not too long ago, Flamini was "Arsenal quality" and that Arsenal side in which he played an important role in romped all over our "Milan quality" in the San Siro under the Carlo the great, no less. The "milan quality" you want would involve breaking the bank for pastore and hamsik. We're not going to do that. And we need not look any further than the RESULTS of the coaches whose keen eye for talent you site in your rationale as to why Flamini isn't worth the fuss. Its the same bunch that overplayed Emerson and Brocchi, failed the talents of Gourcuff and Hunter, and have overseen our team during a 3 year period of relative mediocrity. Obviously for all their trusty talent-appraising abilities, they certainly have not always been right. They are not above criticism. Some of us in the forum have been calling it as its happened over the years, and what's happening now with Seedorf and Rino is no different from previous instances of mismanagement.
This post has been edited by vnata001: Oct 21 2010, 06:24 AM
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Oct 21 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 09:43 AM)  Fillipo, can you please offer a response to this question?
You say you don't trust them because they aren't tested. Well then doesn't that logically beg the question: Why not test them to see if we can trust them? You've seen the results when we've played our "tested" players.
And this term "Milan quality" really needs to be dissected a little bit. How can you be making claims that Flamini is not "Milan quality" when you admit that our coaches haven't given him a chance? Not too long ago, Flamini was "Arsenal quality" and that Arsenal side in which he played an important role in romped all over our "Milan quality" in the San Siro under the Carlo the great, no less.
The "milan quality" you want would involve breaking the bank for pastore and hamsik. We're not going to do that. And we need not look any further than the RESULTS of the coaches whose keen eye for talent you site in your rationale as to why Flamini isn't worth the fuss. Its the same bunch that overplayed Emerson and Brocchi, failed the talents of Gourcuff and Hunter, and have overseen our team during a 3 year period of relative mediocrity. Obviously for all their trusty talent-appraising abilities, they certainly have not always been right. They are not above criticism.
Some of us in the forum have been calling it as its happened over the years, and what's happening now with Seedorf and Rino is no different from previous instances of mismanagement. Oh boy, you're in great form, vnata! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Awesome post once again, and love the shoutout to 'Carlo teh Great'. And frankly though there is no such thing as Milan quality. It existed a few years back, when we could stand hand to head with other big clubs and matched them blow for blow (if not in spending prowess, then on the pitch). (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Now we can't even gather steam, let alone run out of it. And the reason for that is a disjointed team. Remember what I said a few months back, that B&G just plastered the squad by bringing in Ibra and Robino. The underlying problems and cracks are still there. And they will, unless we get adequate replacements next season or two. They missed a trick by missing out on VdV, Hernanes, and Krasic. Frankly I'd have taken any of those three as opposed to Robinho (good player I know, but I've got a feeling he may under deliver). Robin is cover for our attackers, not the answer to our problems: the aging midfield and the static right flank.
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Zed.D Serie A - Week 8. Napoli vs Milan. Oct 20 2010, 09:22 AM TriniKing_CE As much as I would like to the the changes you men... Oct 20 2010, 09:34 AM Zed.D I think Rino is a slightly bigger problem (or what... Oct 20 2010, 09:38 AM Suhail 3 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 20 2010, 09:38 AM) I t... Oct 20 2010, 10:27 AM Jack Sparrow 3-5-2. Let's not push the envelope anymore...t... Oct 20 2010, 10:05 AM X-Offender This please. Oct 20 2010, 01:49 PM CHU-LIP I wish we tried this midfield out against Real Mad... Oct 20 2010, 02:38 PM X-Offender That's basically a 4-4-2. Even though Boateng ... Oct 20 2010, 02:43 PM han2503 I personally would like to see this
Zambro--Nesta... Oct 20 2010, 03:08 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:08 PM) D... Oct 20 2010, 03:14 PM  han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 20 2010, 02:14 ... Oct 20 2010, 03:31 PM X-Offender Stop insisting on Dinho, han. He can perform again... Oct 20 2010, 03:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 02... Oct 20 2010, 03:34 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 04... Oct 20 2010, 03:38 PM X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:31 PM) P... Oct 20 2010, 03:44 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 03... Oct 20 2010, 03:49 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:49 PM) I... Oct 20 2010, 03:53 PM   han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 02... Oct 20 2010, 04:03 PM    X-Offender QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 05:03 PM) H... Oct 20 2010, 04:07 PM     Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 05... Oct 20 2010, 07:18 PM      han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 06:1... Oct 20 2010, 07:44 PM Fillipo Simone A Flamini-Pirlo-Boateng midfield at the moment rea... Oct 20 2010, 07:14 PM X-Offender I agree that we need a proper AM more than anythin... Oct 20 2010, 07:42 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 07:5... Oct 20 2010, 08:05 PM  Fillipo Simone QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 09:05 PM) B... Oct 20 2010, 11:26 PM    vnata001 QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 21 2010, 12:43 AM) O... Oct 21 2010, 09:37 AM   Fillipo Simone QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 06:43 AM) ... Oct 21 2010, 11:08 AM    vnata001 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 03:0... Oct 21 2010, 11:59 AM     Jack Sparrow QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 04:29 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 12:54 PM William405 How can Flamini get better if he doesn't get t... Oct 20 2010, 09:08 PM Linkman ...that's a fair point.
But still, Flamini ca... Oct 21 2010, 03:21 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 04:2... Oct 21 2010, 05:42 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 20 2010, 10:43 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 05:48 AM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 11:2... Oct 21 2010, 07:35 AM acid911 Yeah, sort of like the Oscar acceptance speech at ... Oct 21 2010, 09:46 AM vnata001 QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 21 2010, 01:46 AM) ... Oct 21 2010, 10:44 AM  acid911 QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 02:44 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 12:34 PM Jack Sparrow No we cannot keep faith...but what are our options... Oct 21 2010, 11:33 AM amancik Massimiliano Allegri will wield the axe after Tues... Oct 21 2010, 03:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (amancik @ Oct 21 2010, 03:29 PM) M... Oct 21 2010, 04:16 PM Zed.D QUOTE (amancik @ Oct 21 2010, 06:59 PM) M... Oct 21 2010, 08:46 PM  vnata001 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 21 2010, 12:46 PM) I... Oct 21 2010, 10:20 PM Dracoris This is our best formation. The usage of the two ... Oct 21 2010, 06:56 PM han2503 Agreed Dracoris
Also if Allegri wants to explore ... Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM kurtsimonw QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM) A... Oct 21 2010, 07:32 PM vnata001 +1 to Han and Dracoris. I'll take Dracoris... Oct 21 2010, 07:56 PM Fillipo Simone I'll be frank now: I think Italy hasen't h... Oct 22 2010, 01:39 AM vnata001 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 05:3... Oct 22 2010, 03:06 AM Linkman +1 Dracoris and Han Oct 22 2010, 02:20 AM Darunia Flamini needs a start.. with Ambro out, and with R... Oct 22 2010, 05:20 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 06:3... Oct 22 2010, 09:14 AM Jack Sparrow QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 22 2010, 02:44 P... Oct 22 2010, 09:59 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 22 2010, 02:59 ... Oct 22 2010, 10:10 AM Jack Sparrow I have more bottles of rum than Milanfan has serve... Oct 22 2010, 10:35 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 22 2010, 03:35 ... Oct 22 2010, 10:39 AM Jack Sparrow HUGE! Like King frickin Kong huge! Oct 22 2010, 10:55 AM samira QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM) A... Oct 22 2010, 02:15 PM han2503 QUOTE (samira @ Oct 22 2010, 02:15 PM) LI... Oct 22 2010, 03:02 PM Suhail 3 Id like to see Papa start this one alongside nesta Oct 22 2010, 03:38 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 12:0... Oct 22 2010, 11:29 PM Bluesummers Good formations and agree with em xoff. Whats fun... Oct 23 2010, 12:40 AM X-Offender QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 23 2010, 01:40 A... Oct 23 2010, 12:49 AM Fillipo Simone Who's to replace Zambrotta? Abate or Bonera? Oct 23 2010, 12:52 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 23 2010, 01:5... Oct 23 2010, 01:08 PM William405 Is Montelongo a right back?Why not try him out,can... Oct 23 2010, 05:02 PM Fillipo Simone I agree. But somehow, we don't use the uru-guy... Oct 23 2010, 05:20 PM X-Offender Who's P. Garcia? Oct 23 2010, 05:53 PM Fillipo Simone Pablo Garcia.
"Played" for Milan in the... Oct 23 2010, 06:29 PM X-Offender Oh, I know him. I had no idea he played for us. Oct 23 2010, 07:10 PM Zed.D Why is this game being played on Monday?! Oct 23 2010, 08:27 PM William405 Napoli had a match on Thursday,maybe that's wh... Oct 23 2010, 08:51 PM Zed.D QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 24 2010, 12:21 AM... Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM X-Offender QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 23 2010, 09:51 PM... Oct 24 2010, 01:16 AM MizNelson Sometimes I wish I was able to discuss tactics and... Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 23 2010, 10:16 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 12:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 11:12 AM MizNelson QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 24 2010, 03:12 AM) ... Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM  han2503 QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 08:11 PM X-Offender Sportmediaset and La Gazzetta keep insisting on a ... Oct 24 2010, 12:20 PM X-Offender Call-up list for Napoli: Abbiati, Amelia, Roma, An... Oct 24 2010, 12:31 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 24 2010, 12... Oct 24 2010, 03:05 PM Fillipo Simone Tbh. I'd rather see Montelongo play. This coul... Oct 24 2010, 12:54 PM Jack Sparrow I wanna see Bruno play... Oct 24 2010, 04:53 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 24 2010, 05:53 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:23 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 24 2010, 07:2... Oct 24 2010, 06:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 24 2010, 05:29 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:41 PM  CHU-LIP QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 24 2010, 07:41 PM)
... Oct 24 2010, 06:47 PM   han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 24 2010, 05:47 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:51 PM Fillipo Simone Man did I make a fool out of myself. Major cookie ... Oct 24 2010, 06:45 PM X-Offender I have set an ultimatum for myself: if Seedorf pla... Oct 24 2010, 07:09 PM William405 Allegri said he's got a doubt between Seedorf ... Oct 24 2010, 07:40 PM CHU-LIP Okay, why have I been quoted followed by such a ga... Oct 24 2010, 07:45 PM MizNelson Click. Oct 24 2010, 08:07 PM Fillipo Simone Baahh... Oct 24 2010, 08:23 PM X-Offender Bruno doesn't hold a candle to Borat. Oct 24 2010, 08:25 PM X-Offender Interesting. La Gazzetta has this probabile line-u... Oct 24 2010, 09:47 PM
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