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Oct 20 2010, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:31 PM)  Personally I believe that a 4-4-2 requires certain types of players in order to work. And I believe we just don't have that.
Having Flamini and Boateng playing slightly behind Pirlo will give us defensive stability, as well as speed and the ability to transition the ball faster to the front 3.
As for Zlatan making assists, it's not like it's going to happen every game, especially like the second goal where it was very opportunistic. Plus I want to se Zlatan closer to goal. Not trying to play in Pato
Dinho has been playing well these past few games in the hole, he's working hard, helping out the midfield when needed and creating chances in attack by bringing in the two strikers into the game. Yes he had a bad night against Real, but so did our other attackers and there was a good reason behind that.
X-Off has Robinho playing but still where is he going to be playing? He can't play behind the strikers, he likes the wings, which against would force us into the dreaded 4-3-3, where either one of Pato or Robinho will have to be wasted on that right side, since neither are particularly comfortable playing there QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:34 PM)  You want Robinho on the field, so we'll have to play that wide 4-3-3 again, which does not work for us. Robihno can't play behind the 2 strikers either so unless Allegri moves Pirlo a lot up the pitch then that tactic won't work, and I can't see him doing that Are you Allegri's clone or something? Why do you have to be so narrow-minded? Playing Robinho-Ibra-Pato doesn't translate in the two Brazilians playing out wide. In fact, I want Pato to be our CF from now on, and Ibra can be the tower/assist man. Take a look at the line-up I posted above. Robinho will be playing mostly on the left, but not as a winger. More like a tracked-back SS. When it comes to attacking, we can use all the strength of Robinho-Pato-Ibra-Boateng, and when defending we're still going to be covered with three capable midfielders. Just because we're playing with three forwards and three midfielders doesn't mean two will have to play wide blah blah blah. It's all about movement. As long as the team moves and interchanges positions for the whole 90 minutes, the kind of formation we're utilizing is the last thing to worry about.
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Oct 20 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 03:44 PM)  Are you Allegri's clone or something? Why do you have to be so narrow-minded? Playing Robinho-Ibra-Pato doesn't translate in the two Brazilians playing out wide. In fact, I want Pato to be our CF from now on, and Ibra can the tower/assist man. Take a look at the line-up I posted above. Robinho will be playing mostly on the left, but not as a winger. More like a tracked-back SS. When it comed to attacking, we can use all the strength of Robinho-Pato-Ibra-Boateng, and when defending we're still going to be covered with three capable midfielders. Just because we're playing with three forwards and three midfielders doesn't mean two will have to play wide blah blah blah. It's all about movement. As long as the team moves and interchanges positions for the whole 90 minutes, the kind of formation we're utilizing is the last thing to worry about. It's not narrow minded. You can talk all you want but I know how we'll see that being translated on the pitch. ie a 4-3-3. Which is my main problem. You can draw a million sketches but ultimutley how we shape up on the pitch is what matters and if you're going to play with Ribinho, Ibra and Pato then I'm 100% sure that we'll be seeing a 4-3-3 on the pitch. And imo the only way I'd like to see that happen if we play like this Zambro--Nesta--Thaigo--Antonini Flamini--Boateng Pirlo Robinho--Zlatan--Pato
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Oct 20 2010, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:49 PM)  It's not narrow minded. You can talk all you want but I know how we'll see that being translated on the pitch. ie a 4-3-3. Which is my main problem. You can draw a million sketches but ultimutley how we shape up on the pitch is what matters and if you're going to play with Ribinho, Ibra and Pato then I'm 100% sure that we'll be seeing a 4-3-3 on the pitch. And imo the only way I'd like to see that happen if we play like this Zambro--Nesta--Thaigo--Antonini Flamini--Boateng Pirlo Robinho--Zlatan--Pato I know that, han. I'm not saying that Allegri will do the same thing I'm talking about, even if he fields the same players I want to. That's why I can't stand the guy. He's just too static, not willing to make changes or bring in ideas. He has no motivation whatsoever, and plays us like some mid-table team. He's no different from Leo, really.
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Oct 20 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 02:53 PM)  I know that, han. I'm not saying that Allegri will do the same thing I'm talking about, even if he fields the same players I want to. That's why I can't stand the guy. He's just too static, not willing to make changes or bring in ideas. He has no motivation whatsoever, and plays us like some mid-table team. He's no different from Leo, really. And that is my point exactly. But I'm more worried about what we'll see on the pitch then how I want to see us playing (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Anyway, if it is Robinho, Ibra and Pato against Napoli, I'm at least hoping to see something along the lines of what I posted, we can't afford to have that big gap between midfield and attack. Still believe that playing Dinho in the hole is currently our best option until we bring in a real AM. Our biggest problem against Real was that we looked like we were playing with 8 players. The ball got as far as the midfield 3 and was lost again. I'm not making excuses for anyone, because I thought that Dinho, Pato and Ibra all managed to turn it into cr@p when they did actually get a touch on the ball, Dinho with the bad passing, Pato with the bad runs and Zlatan was just invisible most games, I think I can count the number of times on one hand the ammount of times the camera focused on him. Having said that, all of the issues we were having stemmed from the static midfield. Rino was chasing shadows, Seedorf looked like he was playing on another planet and Pirlo was left at it all alone.
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Oct 20 2010, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 05:03 PM)  Having said that, all of the issues we were having stemmed from the static midfield. Rino was chasing shadows, Seedorf looked like he was playing on another planet and Pirlo was left at it all alone. I think we can all agree on that. Our biggest problem is the midfield. And hell, not because we don't have the players, but because of the choices of coach. So, in the end, it all falls on the coach. Allegri is just a bad loser.
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Oct 20 2010, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 05:07 PM)  I think we can all agree on that. Our biggest problem is the midfield. And hell, not because we don't have the players, but because of the choices of coach. So, in the end, it all falls on the coach. Allegri is just a bad loser. Generally, I agree. But I think you're going to far. Milan really does not have the proper players. Both Flamini and Boateng are way overrated here IMO, and that's because we're used to watch Seedorf and Rino bleed like hell after 60 minutes of running - and from that point of few, Boateng and Flamini seem fast and fresh like a 24 year old Henry in midfield. While actually, IMO Milan misses a classic AM the most.
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Zed.D Serie A - Week 8. Napoli vs Milan. Oct 20 2010, 09:22 AM TriniKing_CE As much as I would like to the the changes you men... Oct 20 2010, 09:34 AM Zed.D I think Rino is a slightly bigger problem (or what... Oct 20 2010, 09:38 AM Suhail 3 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 20 2010, 09:38 AM) I t... Oct 20 2010, 10:27 AM Jack Sparrow 3-5-2. Let's not push the envelope anymore...t... Oct 20 2010, 10:05 AM X-Offender This please. Oct 20 2010, 01:49 PM CHU-LIP I wish we tried this midfield out against Real Mad... Oct 20 2010, 02:38 PM X-Offender That's basically a 4-4-2. Even though Boateng ... Oct 20 2010, 02:43 PM han2503 I personally would like to see this
Zambro--Nesta... Oct 20 2010, 03:08 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:08 PM) D... Oct 20 2010, 03:14 PM  han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 20 2010, 02:14 ... Oct 20 2010, 03:31 PM X-Offender Stop insisting on Dinho, han. He can perform again... Oct 20 2010, 03:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 02... Oct 20 2010, 03:34 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 04... Oct 20 2010, 03:38 PM      han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 06:1... Oct 20 2010, 07:44 PM Fillipo Simone A Flamini-Pirlo-Boateng midfield at the moment rea... Oct 20 2010, 07:14 PM X-Offender I agree that we need a proper AM more than anythin... Oct 20 2010, 07:42 PM Fillipo Simone Maybe I didn't express myself properly. Maybe ... Oct 20 2010, 07:59 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 07:5... Oct 20 2010, 08:05 PM  Fillipo Simone QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2010, 09:05 PM) B... Oct 20 2010, 11:26 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 08:5... Oct 20 2010, 08:31 PM  vnata001 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2010, 12... Oct 21 2010, 05:43 AM   acid911 QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 09:43 AM) ... Oct 21 2010, 08:43 AM    vnata001 QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 21 2010, 12:43 AM) O... Oct 21 2010, 09:37 AM   Fillipo Simone QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 06:43 AM) ... Oct 21 2010, 11:08 AM    vnata001 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 03:0... Oct 21 2010, 11:59 AM     Jack Sparrow QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 04:29 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 12:54 PM William405 How can Flamini get better if he doesn't get t... Oct 20 2010, 09:08 PM Linkman ...that's a fair point.
But still, Flamini ca... Oct 21 2010, 03:21 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 04:2... Oct 21 2010, 05:42 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 20 2010, 10:43 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 05:48 AM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2010, 11:2... Oct 21 2010, 07:35 AM acid911 Yeah, sort of like the Oscar acceptance speech at ... Oct 21 2010, 09:46 AM vnata001 QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 21 2010, 01:46 AM) ... Oct 21 2010, 10:44 AM  acid911 QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 21 2010, 02:44 PM) ... Oct 21 2010, 12:34 PM Jack Sparrow No we cannot keep faith...but what are our options... Oct 21 2010, 11:33 AM amancik Massimiliano Allegri will wield the axe after Tues... Oct 21 2010, 03:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (amancik @ Oct 21 2010, 03:29 PM) M... Oct 21 2010, 04:16 PM Zed.D QUOTE (amancik @ Oct 21 2010, 06:59 PM) M... Oct 21 2010, 08:46 PM  vnata001 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 21 2010, 12:46 PM) I... Oct 21 2010, 10:20 PM Dracoris This is our best formation. The usage of the two ... Oct 21 2010, 06:56 PM han2503 Agreed Dracoris
Also if Allegri wants to explore ... Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM kurtsimonw QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM) A... Oct 21 2010, 07:32 PM vnata001 +1 to Han and Dracoris. I'll take Dracoris... Oct 21 2010, 07:56 PM Fillipo Simone I'll be frank now: I think Italy hasen't h... Oct 22 2010, 01:39 AM vnata001 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 05:3... Oct 22 2010, 03:06 AM Linkman +1 Dracoris and Han Oct 22 2010, 02:20 AM Darunia Flamini needs a start.. with Ambro out, and with R... Oct 22 2010, 05:20 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 06:3... Oct 22 2010, 09:14 AM Jack Sparrow QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 22 2010, 02:44 P... Oct 22 2010, 09:59 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 22 2010, 02:59 ... Oct 22 2010, 10:10 AM Jack Sparrow I have more bottles of rum than Milanfan has serve... Oct 22 2010, 10:35 AM Bluesummers QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 22 2010, 03:35 ... Oct 22 2010, 10:39 AM Jack Sparrow HUGE! Like King frickin Kong huge! Oct 22 2010, 10:55 AM samira QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 21 2010, 07:15 PM) A... Oct 22 2010, 02:15 PM han2503 QUOTE (samira @ Oct 22 2010, 02:15 PM) LI... Oct 22 2010, 03:02 PM Suhail 3 Id like to see Papa start this one alongside nesta Oct 22 2010, 03:38 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 21 2010, 12:0... Oct 22 2010, 11:29 PM Bluesummers Good formations and agree with em xoff. Whats fun... Oct 23 2010, 12:40 AM X-Offender QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 23 2010, 01:40 A... Oct 23 2010, 12:49 AM Fillipo Simone Who's to replace Zambrotta? Abate or Bonera? Oct 23 2010, 12:52 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 23 2010, 01:5... Oct 23 2010, 01:08 PM William405 Is Montelongo a right back?Why not try him out,can... Oct 23 2010, 05:02 PM Fillipo Simone I agree. But somehow, we don't use the uru-guy... Oct 23 2010, 05:20 PM X-Offender Who's P. Garcia? Oct 23 2010, 05:53 PM Fillipo Simone Pablo Garcia.
"Played" for Milan in the... Oct 23 2010, 06:29 PM X-Offender Oh, I know him. I had no idea he played for us. Oct 23 2010, 07:10 PM Zed.D Why is this game being played on Monday?! Oct 23 2010, 08:27 PM William405 Napoli had a match on Thursday,maybe that's wh... Oct 23 2010, 08:51 PM Zed.D QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 24 2010, 12:21 AM... Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM X-Offender QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 23 2010, 09:51 PM... Oct 24 2010, 01:16 AM MizNelson Sometimes I wish I was able to discuss tactics and... Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 23 2010, 10:16 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 12:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 23 2010, 09:16 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 11:12 AM MizNelson QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 24 2010, 03:12 AM) ... Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM  han2503 QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 24 2010, 07:44 PM)... Oct 24 2010, 08:11 PM X-Offender Sportmediaset and La Gazzetta keep insisting on a ... Oct 24 2010, 12:20 PM X-Offender Call-up list for Napoli: Abbiati, Amelia, Roma, An... Oct 24 2010, 12:31 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 24 2010, 12... Oct 24 2010, 03:05 PM Fillipo Simone Tbh. I'd rather see Montelongo play. This coul... Oct 24 2010, 12:54 PM Jack Sparrow I wanna see Bruno play... Oct 24 2010, 04:53 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 24 2010, 05:53 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:23 PM CHU-LIP QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 24 2010, 07:2... Oct 24 2010, 06:29 PM han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 24 2010, 05:29 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:41 PM  CHU-LIP QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 24 2010, 07:41 PM)
... Oct 24 2010, 06:47 PM   han2503 QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 24 2010, 05:47 ... Oct 24 2010, 06:51 PM Fillipo Simone Man did I make a fool out of myself. Major cookie ... Oct 24 2010, 06:45 PM X-Offender I have set an ultimatum for myself: if Seedorf pla... Oct 24 2010, 07:09 PM William405 Allegri said he's got a doubt between Seedorf ... Oct 24 2010, 07:40 PM CHU-LIP Okay, why have I been quoted followed by such a ga... Oct 24 2010, 07:45 PM MizNelson Click. Oct 24 2010, 08:07 PM Fillipo Simone Baahh... Oct 24 2010, 08:23 PM X-Offender Bruno doesn't hold a candle to Borat. Oct 24 2010, 08:25 PM X-Offender Interesting. La Gazzetta has this probabile line-u... Oct 24 2010, 09:47 PM
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