[dinho4eva]

we hav all the players..we hav good strikers(hunter,pippo,pato),EXCELLENT midfield(dinho,oirlo,gattuso) and a descent defence..so whom do u think milan should sign??
In my opinion ,we need not sign anymore players,we..we just need to motivate our team and think that we r strong..whaddaya think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[il_diavolo_mtl]

we hav all the players..we hav good strikers(hunter,pippo,pato),EXCELLENT midfield(dinho,oirlo,gattuso) and a descent defence..so whom do u think milan should sign??
In my opinion ,we need not sign anymore players,we..we just need to motivate our team and think that we r strong..whaddaya think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Berlu so glad of you to post here at Milanfan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

If you look at our squad on paper it's a moderate to very good Italian club side - it is not a team, anymore, which is as good if not better than our historic rivals.

I think with our current team and management we will struggle to clinch 4th spot, and that is my target.

I disagree we have an excellent midfield - Pirlo has been terrible for 3 years, Ambrosini is far too workman to be classed as a great player, Flamini is a solid and dependable but unspectacular mid, Ronaldinho is not a midfielder, and Gattuso is a good worker and will defend from the middle but has little attacking instinct.

The only midfielder I feel we have mileage in is Seedorf, who, tbf, is actually one of the greatest midfielders to have ever played the game.

So I think the midfield needs a lot of work.

As for defence - while I rate both Gian and Marek highly, they're not getting any younger, and while Nesta doesn't need to be 17 to be world class, question marks hang over his fitness. The bright hope in there is Silva.

Up front I think we look healthy at last - Dinho, Pato, KJH, and Pippo. I won't count Borriello as he's the worst striker we've had outwith Oliveira and Gila.

Good post, but you let off some brain farts IMO with all in bold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Danny]

Good post, but you let off some brain farts IMO with all in bold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Seedorf is the only player in history to win the CL with 3 different clubs, 4 times in all. His record and the clubs he's been at is absolutely peerless. He's quite probably the most under-rated player in world football. And before anyone throws the 'national honours' line at me, Maldini never won any either.

As for the other comment, I stand by that - Borriello is 100% garbage - I remember a match in which he missed about 898 chances. Slight exaggeration but nevertheless that one was one of his better matches!

Or do I misunderstand what you disagree with?

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Seedorf is the only player in history to win the CL with 3 different clubs, 4 times in all. His record and the clubs he's been at is absolutely peerless. He's quite probably the most under-rated player in world football. And before anyone throws the 'national honours' line at me, Maldini never won any either.

As for the other comment, I stand by that - Borriello is 100% garbage - I remember a match in which he missed about 898 chances. Slight exaggeration but nevertheless that one was one of his better matches!

Or do I misunderstand what you disagree with?

If your argument is his resume then you got me on all but one factor, it is little but it is important none the less.
It is that which stands between signing Marco van basten/pele/mardona/larson...
Age.
Now before you come at me with "he's only 33" let me just say that some players due to their style, age better then others look at Ronaldo vs Pippo. Seedorf was an incredibly skilled athletic powerful mid who who dribble and shoot rockets at the net. Including that EPIC screamer from 45y out while at madrid. But now he is but a fragment of himself , a fragment that should not be starting everygame for us as most of his contributions are jogs and disgustingly easy tap-ins. He will occasionaly flash skills but he isn't equipped to deal with a starting role (see last year where he himself said he was overplayed).

Borrielo is definatly not garbage just the way Gila wasn't garbage. Boriello got 19 goals on a much less imposing genoa then last/this year and the year after gets injured horribly and is forced to rehab tirelessly, only to get injured again.........if you are pointing at his injury as a sign of him being "100% garbage" then i would of LOVED to see what you thought of Ricky when he hurt his leg in reggina!

to end this cunning retort i will only say that contrary to popular believe, Gila was,is and will always be an amazing talent,

[Danny]

If your argument is his resume then you got me on all but one factor, it is little but it is important none the less.
It is that which stands between signing Marco van basten/pele/mardona/larson...
Age.
Now before you come at me with "he's only 33" let me just say that some players due to their style, age better then others look at Ronaldo vs Pippo. Seedorf was an incredibly skilled athletic powerful mid who who dribble and shoot rockets at the net. Including that EPIC screamer from 45y out while at madrid. But now he is but a fragment of himself , a fragment that should not be starting everygame for us as most of his contributions are jogs and disgustingly easy tap-ins. He will occasionaly flash skills but he isn't equipped to deal with a starting role (see last year where he himself said he was overplayed).

I would absolutely agree with the comment about dribbles and jogs almost entirely...but for one small thing...

First off, I recall 3 or so seasons ago the very thing we're both referring to - it was during a counter attack in a Milan derby, and he was on his way...then...jog...jog...slow...jog. I was screaming at him to get going - and it became symbolic of the way he played that season.

But hey, guess what, season 2007/2008 Clarence Seedorf was by far our best and most effective player. And I never thought I'd give him an iota of credit again after that previous shambles. But he was excellent 2 seasons ago, our dreadful points dock season. The one beacon that year.

He also scores plenty of great goals - his finish V Chelsea a couple of weeks ago, his goal V Man Utd in May 2007. He can still do it.

Borrielo is definatly not garbage just the way Gila wasn't garbage. Boriello got 19 goals on a much less imposing genoa then last/this year and the year after gets injured horribly and is forced to rehab tirelessly, only to get injured again.........if you are pointing at his injury as a sign of him being "100% garbage" then i would of LOVED to see what you thought of Ricky when he hurt his leg in reggina!

No, I point at the fact he's not very good in our colours. Borriello is a classic example of a Suazo, a Pizarro - a player who can't handle the pressure of playing for a big big team. These guys are big fish in small ponds, but then the giant club like Milan, Juve or Inter come a calling and it doesn't work out.

Gilardino is another example - he was adequate for us domestically, but in the CL he was pitiful. Great for the smaller Parma and Fiorentina. But being a Milan player is much more than Fio or Parma.

to end this cunning retort i will only say that contrary to popular believe, Gila was,is and will always be an amazing talent,

But not for us. Merely 'ok' which isn't anywhere near good enough for a club the size of us.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

I would absolutely agree with the comment about dribbles and jogs almost entirely...but for one small thing...

First off, I recall 3 or so seasons ago the very thing we're both referring to - it was during a counter attack in a Milan derby, and he was on his way...then...jog...jog...slow...jog. I was screaming at him to get going - and it became symbolic of the way he played that season.

But hey, guess what, season 2007/2008 Clarence Seedorf was by far our best and most effective player. And I never thought I'd give him an iota of credit again after that previous shambles. But he was excellent 2 seasons ago, our dreadful points dock season. The one beacon that year.

He also scores plenty of great goals - his finish V Chelsea a couple of weeks ago, his goal V Man Utd in May 2007. He can still do it.



No, I point at the fact he's not very good in our colours. Borriello is a classic example of a Suazo, a Pizarro - a player who can't handle the pressure of playing for a big big team. These guys are big fish in small ponds, but then the giant club like Milan, Juve or Inter come a calling and it doesn't work out.

Gilardino is another example - he was adequate for us domestically, but in the CL he was pitiful. Great for the smaller Parma and Fiorentina. But being a Milan player is much more than Fio or Parma.



But not for us. Merely 'ok' which isn't anywhere near good enough for a club the size of us.

and with this post we have found middleground (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)