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Jack Sparrow
post May 3 2009, 02:08 AM
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^^ Hee hee...that's very good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I always felt Seedorf played, because he was the only box-to-box available in the team. If Ronaldinho had showed any inclination to drop back and fight for the ball (Kaka, Pato and Borriello) do it, then it would be fine. He's still in La Liga mode.

Seedorf has completely sucked attacking wise for the past 10 games or so. But in the match against Palermo, I thought it was an important role he played helping Ambro keep Liverani in check. R80 wouldn't last 10 minutes if given a job like that.

These kind of trivial things might have an impact on the match. I don't think we have a strong enough mid-field where we can free all 4 of our attackers from defensive duty. I also feel Pirlo's play improves a lot with Seedorf, since Seedorf also helps cut spaces. While if R80 is playing, then Pirlo goes back to that DM role, instead of the playmaker role.


But that's the way I see it, and my affection for Seedorf might be clouding my judgement.
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post May 3 2009, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 3 2009, 01:08 AM) *
^^ Hee hee...that's very good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I always felt Seedorf played, because he was the only box-to-box available in the team. If Ronaldinho had showed any inclination to drop back and fight for the ball (Kaka, Pato and Borriello) do it, then it would be fine. He's still in La Liga mode.

Seedorf has completely sucked attacking wise for the past 10 games or so. But in the match against Palermo, I thought it was an important role he played helping Ambro keep Liverani in check. R80 wouldn't last 10 minutes if given a job like that.

These kind of trivial things might have an impact on the match. I don't think we have a strong enough mid-field where we can free all 4 of our attackers from defensive duty. I also feel Pirlo's play improves a lot with Seedorf, since Seedorf also helps cut spaces. While if R80 is playing, then Pirlo goes back to that DM role, instead of the playmaker role.


But that's the way I see it, and my affection for Seedorf might be clouding my judgement.

I don't know which game you were watching Jack, but the one I was watching I saw Seedorf jogging around the center of the pitch everytime Palermo were on the attack. Pippo and Pato usually try to help defend better then him. I've never seen him willingly fight for balls, not even the ones he loses, and lets face it, he loses more balls then he plays in his current state of form.

I get where you're coming from in saying that he is unique to the team in what he does, personally I feel that when he does play in his position (in the midfield 3) he plays a lot better and contributes far more to the team, no matter what for he is in. But he is not an attacking mid and when he does play that high up the pitch his flaws come out 10 fold.

Dinho would be far more suited to that position, because it is HIS actual position, and I've seen him fight for balls in our matches, but no one sees those things because Dinho is always automatically labeled as lazy no matter what he does. If you have any tapes of past games one with Seedorf playing as an attacking mid and one with Dinho playing in that position, really look at what each of them bring to the game without your Clarence tinted glasses ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and you will see that Dinho is far better suited for playing that position and we suffer when Seedorf is the one playing there.
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- Zed.D   Catania - Milan --- 3/5/2009   Apr 28 2009, 07:36 AM
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