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Zed.D
forza milan biggrin.gif
dst
I hope Ancelotti has gotten it by now... only play those who care!
Jack Sparrow
It is the curse of awesomeness to be mistaken for laziness, but when you're so awesome you don't care.


The Milan #10 will play. The Milan #10 is awesomeness! cool.gif All bow down to the Dutch master. The slayer of Liverani. Loyal knight to the order of the Diavoli. The vengeful striking hammer of Lord Carletto. The magician monk, the poet warrior, the Zee Man!





FOREVER!!!
Tennie
Fishdoll preview, courtesy of MizNelson!

Ry4n
No Inzaghi No party !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hes gunna score again watch and see !!!
Tennie
Today's training has taken place.

It was bucketing all through training, which consisted of warmups, drills and practice games.

Beckham, Bonera, Borriello and Antonini trained separately in the gym. Pippo worked on a series of sprints. Nesta did a few minutes of running.

RINO TRAINED WITH THE TEAM. 96.gif 96.gif 96.gif

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Catania's coach Walter Zenga got a touchline ban for this one and will be watching from the stands.
Zed.D
Imagine Rino returning and helping the team win the Scudetto, on Paolo's last season, one of those dramatic last game twists... cry.gif
QUOTE
Catania's coach Walter Zenga got a touchline ban for this one and will be watching from the stands.


Wasn't he suspended when Catania played us at the San Siro?
Darunia
Early Gazzetta lineup:

Dida
Zambrotta Favalli Maldini Jankulovski
Beckham Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka Seedorf
Inzaghi


-1 Seedorf
+1 Ronaldinho/Sheva
Zed.D
Don't tell me Pato is going to miss this game as well? cry.gif
Tennie
Today there are two training sessions.

This morning was devoted to individual work.

Shevchenko e Darmian ran in the woods;

Ronaldinho e Seedorf did a series of (I think it's translated as) running stairs;

Kakà, Jankulovski e Flamini ran laps around the central pitch;

Ambrosini e Pirlo worked on the raised camp at the side of the gym;

Mattioni, Thiago Silva, Cardacio e Senderos did some rapidity and technique exercises with Tassotti and Galli;

Antonini, Bonera e Pato worked on changing directions and technical exercises on the raised pitch;

Maldini, Favalli e Zambrotta worked in the sand pit;

Beckham, after some work in the sand pit, worked in the gym;

Kalac, Gattuso, Viudez, Abbiati, Kaladze, Nesta, Borriello worked in the gym.

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zeddie, given the fact that Pato is training with the rest of the guys and not in the gym leads me to think that he'll be available to play.
Zed.D
I hope so. thanks for the update.
dst
It seems that we'll be playing yet another friendly in two weeks time against Albania... this is so ****ing ridiculous!
Zed.D
Man, I hope we don't miss out on CL football ever again! we've become miserable...
Rossoneri7
Catania ... Hope for 3 points with another impressive display from the team 96.gif
Tennie
Afternoon training has taken place. There were warmups, drills, and practice games. During the final practice game, the primavera keeper Perucchini was in one of the goals.

Pato and Gattuso trained with the team.

Kalac and Zambrotta trained in the gym.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 29 2009, 08:09 PM) *
Pato and Gattuso trained with the team.


Does that mean he could play against Catania? freak.gif (EDIT: I'm talking about Rino)
Tennie
I don't think so, zeddie, though it might be possible he'd come on briefly. The talk has half been about him maybe being back for the Gobbi game, which is the one after this.
Ry4n
Hope hes back for the Juve match Gattuso and Pato !!!!
Tennie
Today's training has taken place.

There were warmups, drills and practice games. Pato and Zambrotta trained with the squad.

Also seen outside today were Nesta and Borriello, both of whom did some running.

Gattuso, Bonera, Antonini, Abbiati and Kaladze worked in the gym.


ps - Pato cut his hair.
Suhail 3
id say this is the our easiest game now _ the other 4 are tricky and tough _ but then again catania away isnt a stroll in the park either so i hope this is where the 5 straight wins begins for milan _ and as unlikely as it may seem an 18th scudetto wink.gif yes i still believe

o milan fan v2 looks wicked smile.gif i havent been on here for ages
Tennie
Welcome back, Suhail3! smile.gif
Suhail 3
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 07:21 PM) *
Welcome back, Suhail3! smile.gif


cheers tennie biggrin.gif cool.gif looking to stick around now glad i remembered my password no offense to milanmania

but this forum is way better laugh.gif
Tennie
Do stick around, Suhail3! I've never been to that board you mentioned so can't comment. I like this place well enough, though.wink.gif



QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 11:21 AM) *
ps - Pato cut his hair.


See what I mean:



Fishdoll cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
dst
Ewww!
MizNelson
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 30 2009, 01:15 PM) *
Ewww!

You're telling me!

He looks like he belongs in a prison yard with that look. Holy Jesus.
Ry4n
probably to scare the opposing defenders more devilsmiley.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 30 2009, 03:22 PM) *
See what I mean:



Fishdoll cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

LOL laugh.gif

...looks to me like someone lost a drunken bet! tongue.gif

I don't mind that much though, as long as his form isn't affected by this... thumbup.gif

Can't wait to see him on the pitch again. Our extremely talented young-blood! cool.gif
MizNelson
Not too long ago, our Brazilian contingent were a quartet - since halved - of role models. Since then, we've hosted a bunch of partyboy maroons (don't think I need to name names) who can't keep it in their pants, with only one of them having produced anything on the pitch on a consistent basis.

That being said, I think I'll jump off a bridge if we wind up signing Adriano.
Zed.D
QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 1 2009, 05:44 AM) *
Not too long ago, our Brazilian contingent were a quartet - since halved - of role models. Since then, we've hosted a bunch of partyboy maroons (don't think I need to name names) who can't keep it in their pants, with only one of them having produced anything on the pitch on a consistent basis.

Don't take it the wrong way, Miz, but you'll have to name names (if you please) and back up your claims with a reliable proof (if you please).


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

EDIT, I may be the only one but I didn't dislike Pato's new looks at all! I definitely like it better than when he let's his hair grow to a point where it looks like an afro. besides, it will be back to normal faster than you can imagine (unless he wants to keep it this way)
Tennie
Today's training has taken place.

Daniele Bonera (finally!) took place in practice.

After warmups, the team divided in two:

Jankulovski, Bonera, Senderos, Shevchenko, Beckham, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Zambrotta e Ambrosini worked on a series of (climbs? I think. There are some hills on the training ground).

Thiago Silva, Darmian, Seedorf, Pato, Mattioni, Favalli, Kakà e Maldini did a series of 10 meter sprints.

Rino Gattuso e Filippo Inzaghi worked on agility exercises and exercises with the (?) low obstacles.

After all this fun, there were practice games. Bonera took part in the first 2 of 3.

The three keepers Dida, Kalac e Perucchini trained as usual with the goalkeeping staff.

Cardacio e Borriello trained in the gym.

Nesta, Antonini e Abbiati did separate training.

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(Fishdoll is quite frightened by Pato's new haircut. nervoussmiley.gif )

MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 1 2009, 08:32 AM) *
Rino Gattuso e Filippo Inzaghi worked on agility exercises and exercises with the (?) low obstacles.

Maybe that's the equivalent of the tires NFL players run through during practice.
Tennie
Call ups:
Dida, Kalac, Perucchini;
Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankuloski, Senderos, Mattioni, Darmian, Bonera;
Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini;
Kakà, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Pato, Inzaghi, Shevchenko

No Rino. sad.gif But Bonera's back after an awfully long time.
Ry4n
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 12:59 PM) *
Call ups:
Dida, Kalac, Perucchini;
Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankuloski, Senderos, Mattioni, Darmian, Bonera;
Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini;
Kakà, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Pato, Inzaghi, Shevchenko

No Rino. sad.gif But Bonera's back after an awfully long time.


sad.gif stil no Rino

Glad to see Bonera back too its been a long time too long do you think he will start Tennie ?!?!
Tennie
I don't think he will, Ry. He may play some minutes though -- he's been out for so long that there's no way he could be match fit.
Tennie
Ancelotti has given his prematch press conference.

Highlights:
* The lineup will be mostly the same as against Palermo, except that Janku will play in place of Flamini (who's suspended).
* There's a doubt as to whether Pato or Seedorf will play up front.
* Nesta, Borriello and Kaladze are recuperating but won't be ready or available for the end of the season.
* Rino is almost ready to return and could be used for the last two games of the season. He should be available to Italy for the Confederations Cup this summer.
* Ronaldinho is in good shape but he doesn't fit easily into the lineup that's gotten some very good results.
* Shevchenko hasn't played much but has been a good professional this year.
* Borriello is unsellable.
* If Gourcuff returns, Ancelotti would be content. He's done well with Bordeaux and has matured.

Zed.D
QUOTE (Carlo)
I will have to choose between Pato and Seedorf.


Here we go again... Pato who was one of our most consistent players this season now has to fight for his place again, with Zee!!
Tennie
zeddie, has it occurred to you that Pato may not be fully fit? Why all the defensiveness toward Pato?
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 07:14 PM) *
zeddie, has it occurred to you that Pato may not be fully fit?

When Carlo says he has to choose between Pato and Seedorf, no actually. it means to me Pato is fit enough to play.
Tennie
Then our opinions differ. smile.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 03:55 PM) *
Then our opinions differ. smile.gif

Maybe you're right and Pato is still not fully fit, but I'd still prefer a 1 leged Pato over Seedorf any day of the week.
But that's just my oppinnion. And in any case, if we go with the xmas tree and Pato really is not 100% fit, then there is Ronaldinho, who is infact an attacking mid and can play in the xmas tree unlike Seedorf who does nothing but slow every play we build up.

I think this would be a fairly simple decision to make, only Carlo would choose Seedorf in that position over either Dinho or Pato

Regarding the line-up my choice would be (considering Pato not being fully fit)

Zambro--Maldini--Favall0i--Janku
Becks--Pirlo--Ambro
Kaka--Dinho
Pippo


For me, this line-up basically picks itself out considering recent performances...


gal_kenny
The day Carlo leaves i'll be good..He doesn't know how to make everyone happy the way Guardiola does...Basically some players are more important than others and that is not supposed to be the case....Everyone should play maine..I'm tired of saying these things over and over...Now tomorrow we hae Catania, we need pato cuz we'll be more dangerous with Kaka pato and Inzaghi upfront cuz Seedorf has nothing to offer upfront...Also i'll rather put Zambrotta on the left and Antonini on the right!!!
Tennie
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. smile.gif He's still injured.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 06:56 PM) *
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

You're probably right. I'd forgotten about the run in.
gal_kenny
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 04:26 PM) *
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. smile.gif He's still injured.


sorry i didn't check the call ups but u get my point...He doesn't make everyone satisfied...Its called rotation...Same squad in and out...its just not fair to the other players...They all have contracts with Milan but Carlo doesn't play them...Concerning pato i guess ur right..however, its not fair at all...Guardiola knows how to rotate and at least every squad player has played almost 13-15 games...Here its pirlo champions league, uefa, cup, scudetto, this that...even take a look at real madrid...u know its not all the games that Robben plays or Marcelo plays or even Higuain plays...We need to really impose rotation...i think we've played d same line up for like 3 wks straight d only diff being when pato got injured and now flamini suspended...i mean i'm just saying
Ry4n
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 02:23 PM) *
I don't think he will, Ry. He may play some minutes though -- he's been out for so long that there's no way he could be match fit.


dam i like him alot , he plays with alot of heart , hes been out for way to long sad.gif
Ry4n
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ May 2 2009, 04:32 PM) *
sorry i didn't check the call ups but u get my point...He doesn't make everyone satisfied...Its called rotation...Same squad in and out...its just not fair to the other players...They all have contracts with Milan but Carlo doesn't play them...Concerning pato i guess ur right..however, its not fair at all...Guardiola knows how to rotate and at least every squad player has played almost 13-15 games...Here its pirlo champions league, uefa, cup, scudetto, this that...even take a look at real madrid...u know its not all the games that Robben plays or Marcelo plays or even Higuain plays...We need to really impose rotation...i think we've played d same line up for like 3 wks straight d only diff being when pato got injured and now flamini suspended...i mean i'm just saying


Rotation is good but it isnt always.......it can make the team play good one week then bad the next i think we are finding the balance now !!
Tennie
We HAVE had some rather good results recently. smile.gif
Ry4n
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 04:48 PM) *
We HAVE had some rather good results recently. smile.gif


now we have marched South to Catania happy.gif
han2503
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ May 2 2009, 03:19 PM) *
The day Carlo leaves i'll be good..He doesn't know how to make everyone happy the way Guardiola does...Basically some players are more important than others and that is not supposed to be the case....Everyone should play maine..I'm tired of saying these things over and over...Now tomorrow we hae Catania, we need pato cuz we'll be more dangerous with Kaka pato and Inzaghi upfront cuz Seedorf has nothing to offer upfront...Also i'll rather put Zambrotta on the left and Antonini on the right!!!

I personally have no problem with him playing with the same players when they are performing well, especially now that our schedule is light and we don't have midweek games. My problem is Carlo insisting on Seedorf when there is Dinho on the bench, who is an actual attacking mid, that can play in that particular position better then Seedorf ever will. If a position opened up in the midfield 3 Carlo wouldn't be considering who to play there, Seedorf would get the obvious nod, which is perfectly alright since he is an actual midfielder, but to play him ahead of Dinho next to Kaka is ridiculous when there is Dinho available.

As for Antonini and Zambro, if Antonini were available then he should play on the left and Zambro on the right not the other way around, I think we've all seen that particular 'tactic' (if you want to call it that) fail one too many times

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 03:26 PM) *
I also think that Ancelotti is looking ahead -- next week we have the Gobbi. Even if it's at the San Siro, it's not goign to be an easy game. After that, it's Udine, Roma, and Fiorentina. if there's a doubt as to Pato's match fitness, this is the game to hold him out of. We're going to need him the rest of the run in.

kenny, do you have any basis for your statement that ancelotti doesn't make everyone happy and guardiola does?

FYI, Antonini isn't available. Check the call up list. smile.gif He's still injured.

I completely agree with you, and I know I'm repeating myself, but why play Seedorf ahead of Ronaldinho in that particular position? Alright, Pato should absolutely not be playing if not 100% fit, agreed, but Dinho if fit, has been playing well in the few measly minutes he's been getting and yet Seedorf keeps getting worse with every match he is still given the start in yet he's the only one that is considered for the first 11. I don't see how any of you think that's logical on Carlo's part. His favouritsm towards Seedorf is clearly clouding his judgment in this area. And I'm not saying this because I'm anti Carlo or anthing like that, but it comes from the frustration I have towards Seedorf after seeing him play week in week out and playing like he doesn't give a cr@p and yet Carlo still picks him.

I know I always say that he favoures him, but sometimes I think that Carlo is afraid to bench Seedorf because he knows he will cause problems, so he wants to avoid any type of confrontation. Carlo has always struck me as someone who shies away from a fight...

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 2 2009, 03:48 PM) *
We HAVE had some rather good results recently. smile.gif

Exactly, that's why I would never come on here and say Pippo or Pirlo or Flamini should not be playing every week. It would be ridiculous on my part. The system is clearly working as it is, but with that being said, it's clearly working IN SPIGHT of having Seedorf on the pitch evry week
MizNelson
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 2 2009, 09:16 AM) *
I know I always say that he favoures him, but sometimes I think that Carlo is afraid to bench Seedorf because he knows he will cause problems, so he wants to avoid any type of confrontation. Carlo has always struck me as someone who shies away from a fight...

That's been my explanation for this all along. Let's not kid ourselves; Carlo isn't playing Seedorf because he actually likes the guy.
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