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Palermo-Milan 30/11/08, Serie A week 14 |
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Nov 30 2008, 02:52 PM
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Okay, my responses in order.
zd, why do you insist on the pessimism in thinking we're going to fall down the table? Pirlo's back, Ronaldinho is hitting form, and traditionally Milan start playing their best football after the winter ritiro.
If Kaka were benched for poor play - and I think he should be - I can only imagine the howls of outrage that would come. It may be a fault of Ancelotti for starting the names even if they play poorly, but if some people point fingers at his insistence on playing 2 DMs, then I'm going to point fingers at him playing a Kaka in sucktastic form. And the thing is, even if he did whatever it is we'd like to see him do, there's no proof at all that it would have any change in the results of games.
As for han's blaming the coach, I'm going to agree to disagree. I think it's as much on the players for laziness and complacency - especially when they've got the lead and switch off - as it is on the coach. I don't think Ancelotti is blameless. I don't think the players are blameless either.
And I'm definitely going to agree to disagree that Kaka is above criticism. Nobody is. Not him, not Maldini, not Ancelotti.
As for making it work without important players, Milan is in second place without having had Pirlo for the majority of the games. That to me is a remarkable achievement and credit for that should go both to the players who've played in unfamiliar roles as well as the coach who's gotten good performances out of (most of) the players.
Now let's suspend the debate, shall we? This is a match thread, it's a game day, and let's look and see how we actually do against Palermo.
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mishie Palermo-Milan 30/11/08 Nov 28 2008, 08:10 PM Fillipo Simone Hmh,...we did it simultaniously. We should delete ... Nov 28 2008, 08:18 PM acid911 QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 29 2008, 12:10 AM) A ... Nov 28 2008, 08:56 PM CrazyMilanFan a draw or same on goal margin knowing carlo he wil... Nov 28 2008, 10:10 PM zdrossoneri A draw or a loss.
But if we play with Pato-Borr... Nov 28 2008, 10:35 PM CrazyMilanFan QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 28 2008, 09:35 P... Nov 28 2008, 10:37 PM  acid911 QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 29 2008, 02:37... Nov 28 2008, 10:46 PM   CrazyMilanFan QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 28 2008, 09:46 PM) Y... Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM    acid911 QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 29 2008, 02:48... Nov 28 2008, 10:58 PM Tennie Actually, Gazzetta's projected lineup in the F... Nov 29 2008, 03:23 AM han2503 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 03:23 AM) Ac... Nov 29 2008, 08:52 AM Tennie I just looked again - stuck the paper in my bag be... Nov 29 2008, 01:44 PM zdrossoneri Why is Kaladze forgiven and played again every tim... Nov 29 2008, 02:01 PM MizNelson QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 29 2008, 05:01 A... Nov 30 2008, 01:49 AM Tennie Without getting into the discussion of perceived f... Nov 29 2008, 02:08 PM zdrossoneri QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 04:38 PM) Wi... Nov 29 2008, 02:19 PM Tennie Hrm. Well, Gazzetta got it wrong. Here are the cal... Nov 29 2008, 02:29 PM CrazyMilanFan QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 01:29 PM) Hr... Nov 29 2008, 02:41 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 02:29 PM) An... Nov 30 2008, 02:15 AM rhy_A4 Think he may be rested , which then Carlo might pl... Nov 29 2008, 02:43 PM acid911 QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Nov 29 2008, 06:43 PM) Th... Nov 29 2008, 03:43 PM Tennie All things being equal, I'd be a lot less worr... Nov 29 2008, 04:20 PM han2503 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 04:20 PM) Al... Nov 29 2008, 04:26 PM amancik Pato and Shevchenko could be a good partnership. S... Nov 29 2008, 04:50 PM mishie QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 29 2008, 03:50 PM) S... Nov 29 2008, 08:57 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE 29/11/2008 18:53
Ballardini Thinks Milan Wi... Nov 30 2008, 01:57 AM han2503 Gazzetta.it have the xmas tree with Seedorf and Di... Nov 30 2008, 11:30 AM zdrossoneri QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:00 PM) G... Nov 30 2008, 12:17 PM acid911 QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:30 PM) G... Nov 30 2008, 12:30 PM amancik If Carlo plays Seedorf and R80 as attacking midfie... Nov 30 2008, 12:14 PM Tennie Y'know, I don't have a problem with people... Nov 30 2008, 12:21 PM acid911 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 04:21 PM) Y... Nov 30 2008, 12:51 PM Tennie Well, y'know what, a team isn't going to p... Nov 30 2008, 01:02 PM zdrossoneri Just a few questions Tennie:
Why do we keep comp... Nov 30 2008, 01:24 PM acid911 Now all we need is a good, lengthy Han post. Nov 30 2008, 01:31 PM han2503 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 12:21 PM) Y... Nov 30 2008, 01:43 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE Sure we've had players who have been str... Nov 30 2008, 02:46 PM CrazyMilanFan QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 01:52 PM) Ok... Nov 30 2008, 03:00 PM zdrossoneri QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:22 PM) Ok... Nov 30 2008, 06:38 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 02:4... Nov 30 2008, 03:48 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE It was Spalletti's first real big match ... Nov 30 2008, 03:56 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 03:5... Nov 30 2008, 04:25 PM Fillipo Simone @Han you're really a spin-doctor...
Quote... Nov 30 2008, 04:57 PM acid911 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 08:5... Nov 30 2008, 05:02 PM kurtsimonw I have 5 complaints really.
1 Carlo's stubber... Nov 30 2008, 05:02 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 04:5... Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM acid911 QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:28 PM) A... Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM) T... Nov 30 2008, 06:23 PM amancik It all starts from the Top Management. If they can... Nov 30 2008, 06:04 PM acid911 QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 30 2008, 10:04 PM) I... Nov 30 2008, 06:14 PM han2503 QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM) N... Nov 30 2008, 06:46 PM acid911 QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:46 PM) A... Nov 30 2008, 06:52 PM Tennie QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:46 PM) A... Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM acid911 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 10:51 PM) So... Nov 30 2008, 06:55 PM kurtsimonw Milan have to win, not just to keep up with Inter ... Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM Fillipo Simone We're gonna get does 3 point...
Hmhm...no one... Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM acid911 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 11:0... Nov 30 2008, 07:16 PM han2503 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM) +1... Nov 30 2008, 07:41 PM acid911 QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 11:41 PM) U... Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM  Locke Lamora QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM) Y... Nov 30 2008, 08:01 PM  han2503 QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM) I... Nov 30 2008, 08:05 PM   acid911 QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Dec 1 2008, 12:01 A... Nov 30 2008, 08:21 PM CrazyMilanFan Palermo: Amelia; Cassani, Carrozieri, Bovo, Balzar... Nov 30 2008, 08:01 PM han2503 QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 30 2008, 08:01... Nov 30 2008, 08:06 PM  CrazyMilanFan QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:06 PM) O... Nov 30 2008, 08:10 PM zdrossoneri @ the lineup
PLEASE, don't EVER again say Ca... Nov 30 2008, 08:18 PM Tennie Hrm. Well, at least it's Bonera-Maldini in the... Nov 30 2008, 08:20 PM CrazyMilanFan players coming on field Nov 30 2008, 08:28 PM whoarethepatriots Palermo will batter us Nov 30 2008, 08:29 PM CrazyMilanFan Lets hope we get the 3 points FORZA MILAN!... Nov 30 2008, 08:30 PM Tennie Just had a peek at the Palermo bench, as listed by... Nov 30 2008, 08:30 PM han2503 If memory serves me right this is the same line-up... Nov 30 2008, 08:31 PM Tennie Ugh. We're wearing the mutant kit - white shir... Nov 30 2008, 08:33 PM han2503 QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 08:33 PM) Ug... Nov 30 2008, 08:35 PM CrazyMilanFan bonera elbow there Nov 30 2008, 08:35 PM han2503 Palermo pegging u sback atm, how strange... Nov 30 2008, 08:39 PM CrazyMilanFan that was hald a chance for them Nov 30 2008, 08:39 PM CrazyMilanFan r80 got corner duties ahead of pirlo !! Nov 30 2008, 08:45 PM Fillipo Simone Good Zambro cross.. Nov 30 2008, 08:47 PM Fillipo Simone My god PATO!! Nov 30 2008, 08:48 PM han2503 OH!! what a chance for Pato, great save Am... Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM) O... Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM Fillipo Simone What a miss!! That should have been scored... Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM CrazyMilanFan does not matter how good the save was pato shoud h... Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM MizNelson QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 30 2008, 11:50... Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM  Fillipo Simone QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM)... Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM han2503 Spaces, spaces inside our own area, leaving the Pa... Nov 30 2008, 08:51 PM CrazyMilanFan excellent save we are playing crap Nov 30 2008, 08:52 PM Fillipo Simone Good save by Chris Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM han2503 Great save by Abbiati, getting killed so far.
Hat... Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM CrazyMilanFan pato down Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM amancik ok we're gonna lose ... Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM) o... Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM han2503 Sh!t Pato down, this is so bad Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM Tennie Yikes. Bad Keystone Kops routine between Pirlo and... Nov 30 2008, 08:55 PM MizNelson Pato is OK. Nov 30 2008, 08:55 PM Tennie Uhoh. Looks like a sub is going to be required. Or... Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM Fillipo Simone Pirlo almost cost a goal Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM amancik Well, we can't even close them down. Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM
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