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mishie
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A trip to Palermo this weekend and with them having no wins in the last 3 games a ideal opportunity to take all 3 points
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Fillipo Simone
post Nov 30 2008, 02:46 PM
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Sure we've had players who have been struggling for form, like Kaka who imo, does not deserve any criticism for losing form since he's been carrying this team ever since Sheva left and doing all the work while others around him seem to not give a sh!t for some reason. And why should we depend on Kaka? We have a team full of top class players, Carlo should be able to make it work even with Kaka not at his best. It's like always, Carlo relying on his superstar players to bail him out everytime.

Show me a coach who doesn't.

Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski, Favalli, Maldini, Pippo, Brocchi, Ambrosini - they all didn't give a sh@t last year or when Sheva left, they always or more then often show motivation and at least try. I don't say they're good but they tryed. So it's not that EVERYONE gives a sh@t.

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are proven as complete failures

As said before, we simply seem to treat the term "complete failure" differently.

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I've brought up the spalletti example once and I'm going to bring it up again. When Roma were in their crises Spellatti didn't wait 3 seasons to start acknowledging it, he made changes immediately, completely revamped his usual formation and tactics and now Roma are back to winning and also topping their CL group that contains Chelsea after getting off to a disasterous start. To me this is a coach I admire, someone that admits when he makes mistakes and moves on by changing things up. Carlo on the other hand keeps insisting on something that he knows won't work.

We never fall that deep into trouble like Spalletti in the first place. Now he reshuffled his team and well...ohh..ohh...he won against Cluj! In a very unconvincing, "Milan-Pompey" manner, embaressing manner. Hab would say - all Europe could have a giggle. Wait up. I'm not sure Roma is in renesainse now.

Also, the United debacle, the tragic and bad displays last season when they proved not to be able to compete with Inter, just like we did...I don't see it. At least Ancelotti never got humiliated against Ferguson like Spalletti did...twice.

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Why do we keep comparing this season's Milan to the last season's Milan? yes, we've improved compared to a season in which we couldn't even finish top four. but is that a big deal? I've said before, seeing Milan in the 2nd place is misleading people in their judgments. it's a matter of time before we start falling down the table with this football we're playing (IMO).

Your prediction's wrong. Simply wrong. 1) I don't see a team other then Juve who could replace us in 2nd place, 2) we still manage to hold on points and it's not even mid-season, Milan usually get's a extra dosis of motivation in January.
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- mishie   Palermo-Milan 30/11/08   Nov 28 2008, 08:10 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Hmh,...we did it simultaniously. We should delete ...   Nov 28 2008, 08:18 PM
- - acid911   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 29 2008, 12:10 AM) A ...   Nov 28 2008, 08:56 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   a draw or same on goal margin knowing carlo he wil...   Nov 28 2008, 10:10 PM
- - zdrossoneri   A draw or a loss. But if we play with Pato-Borr...   Nov 28 2008, 10:35 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 28 2008, 09:35 P...   Nov 28 2008, 10:37 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 29 2008, 02:37...   Nov 28 2008, 10:46 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 28 2008, 09:46 PM) Y...   Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 29 2008, 02:48...   Nov 28 2008, 10:58 PM
- - Tennie   Actually, Gazzetta's projected lineup in the F...   Nov 29 2008, 03:23 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 03:23 AM) Ac...   Nov 29 2008, 08:52 AM
- - Tennie   I just looked again - stuck the paper in my bag be...   Nov 29 2008, 01:44 PM
- - zdrossoneri   Why is Kaladze forgiven and played again every tim...   Nov 29 2008, 02:01 PM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 29 2008, 05:01 A...   Nov 30 2008, 01:49 AM
- - Tennie   Without getting into the discussion of perceived f...   Nov 29 2008, 02:08 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 04:38 PM) Wi...   Nov 29 2008, 02:19 PM
- - Tennie   Hrm. Well, Gazzetta got it wrong. Here are the cal...   Nov 29 2008, 02:29 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 01:29 PM) Hr...   Nov 29 2008, 02:41 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 02:29 PM) An...   Nov 30 2008, 02:15 AM
- - rhy_A4   Think he may be rested , which then Carlo might pl...   Nov 29 2008, 02:43 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Nov 29 2008, 06:43 PM) Th...   Nov 29 2008, 03:43 PM
- - Tennie   All things being equal, I'd be a lot less worr...   Nov 29 2008, 04:20 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 29 2008, 04:20 PM) Al...   Nov 29 2008, 04:26 PM
- - amancik   Pato and Shevchenko could be a good partnership. S...   Nov 29 2008, 04:50 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 29 2008, 03:50 PM) S...   Nov 29 2008, 08:57 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE 29/11/2008 18:53 Ballardini Thinks Milan Wi...   Nov 30 2008, 01:57 AM
- - han2503   Gazzetta.it have the xmas tree with Seedorf and Di...   Nov 30 2008, 11:30 AM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:00 PM) G...   Nov 30 2008, 12:17 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 03:30 PM) G...   Nov 30 2008, 12:30 PM
- - amancik   If Carlo plays Seedorf and R80 as attacking midfie...   Nov 30 2008, 12:14 PM
- - Tennie   Y'know, I don't have a problem with people...   Nov 30 2008, 12:21 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 04:21 PM) Y...   Nov 30 2008, 12:51 PM
- - Tennie   Well, y'know what, a team isn't going to p...   Nov 30 2008, 01:02 PM
- - zdrossoneri   Just a few questions Tennie: Why do we keep comp...   Nov 30 2008, 01:24 PM
- - acid911   Now all we need is a good, lengthy Han post.   Nov 30 2008, 01:31 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 12:21 PM) Y...   Nov 30 2008, 01:43 PM
- - Tennie   Okay, my responses in order. zd, why do you insis...   Nov 30 2008, 02:52 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 01:52 PM) Ok...   Nov 30 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:22 PM) Ok...   Nov 30 2008, 06:38 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 02:4...   Nov 30 2008, 03:48 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE It was Spalletti's first real big match ...   Nov 30 2008, 03:56 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 03:5...   Nov 30 2008, 04:25 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   @Han you're really a spin-doctor... Quote...   Nov 30 2008, 04:57 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 08:5...   Nov 30 2008, 05:02 PM
- - kurtsimonw   I have 5 complaints really. 1 Carlo's stubber...   Nov 30 2008, 05:02 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 04:5...   Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:28 PM) A...   Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM) T...   Nov 30 2008, 06:23 PM
- - amancik   It all starts from the Top Management. If they can...   Nov 30 2008, 06:04 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 30 2008, 10:04 PM) I...   Nov 30 2008, 06:14 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM) N...   Nov 30 2008, 06:46 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:46 PM) A...   Nov 30 2008, 06:52 PM
- - Tennie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:46 PM) A...   Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 10:51 PM) So...   Nov 30 2008, 06:55 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Milan have to win, not just to keep up with Inter ...   Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   We're gonna get does 3 point... Hmhm...no one...   Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 11:0...   Nov 30 2008, 07:16 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM) +1...   Nov 30 2008, 07:41 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 11:41 PM) U...   Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM
|- - Locke Lamora   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM) Y...   Nov 30 2008, 08:01 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM) I...   Nov 30 2008, 08:05 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Dec 1 2008, 12:01 A...   Nov 30 2008, 08:21 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   Palermo: Amelia; Cassani, Carrozieri, Bovo, Balzar...   Nov 30 2008, 08:01 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 30 2008, 08:01...   Nov 30 2008, 08:06 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 07:06 PM) O...   Nov 30 2008, 08:10 PM
- - zdrossoneri   @ the lineup PLEASE, don't EVER again say Ca...   Nov 30 2008, 08:18 PM
- - Tennie   Hrm. Well, at least it's Bonera-Maldini in the...   Nov 30 2008, 08:20 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   players coming on field   Nov 30 2008, 08:28 PM
- - whoarethepatriots   Palermo will batter us   Nov 30 2008, 08:29 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   Lets hope we get the 3 points FORZA MILAN!...   Nov 30 2008, 08:30 PM
- - Tennie   Just had a peek at the Palermo bench, as listed by...   Nov 30 2008, 08:30 PM
- - han2503   If memory serves me right this is the same line-up...   Nov 30 2008, 08:31 PM
- - Tennie   Ugh. We're wearing the mutant kit - white shir...   Nov 30 2008, 08:33 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 08:33 PM) Ug...   Nov 30 2008, 08:35 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   bonera elbow there   Nov 30 2008, 08:35 PM
- - han2503   Palermo pegging u sback atm, how strange...   Nov 30 2008, 08:39 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   that was hald a chance for them   Nov 30 2008, 08:39 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   r80 got corner duties ahead of pirlo !!   Nov 30 2008, 08:45 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Good Zambro cross..   Nov 30 2008, 08:47 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   My god PATO!!   Nov 30 2008, 08:48 PM
- - han2503   OH!! what a chance for Pato, great save Am...   Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM) O...   Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   What a miss!! That should have been scored...   Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   does not matter how good the save was pato shoud h...   Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 30 2008, 11:50...   Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 30 2008, 08:50 PM)...   Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM
- - han2503   Spaces, spaces inside our own area, leaving the Pa...   Nov 30 2008, 08:51 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   excellent save we are playing crap   Nov 30 2008, 08:52 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Good save by Chris   Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM
- - han2503   Great save by Abbiati, getting killed so far. Hat...   Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   pato down   Nov 30 2008, 08:53 PM
- - amancik   ok we're gonna lose ...   Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM) o...   Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM
- - han2503   Sh!t Pato down, this is so bad   Nov 30 2008, 08:54 PM
- - Tennie   Yikes. Bad Keystone Kops routine between Pirlo and...   Nov 30 2008, 08:55 PM
- - MizNelson   Pato is OK.   Nov 30 2008, 08:55 PM
- - Tennie   Uhoh. Looks like a sub is going to be required. Or...   Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Pirlo almost cost a goal   Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM
- - amancik   Well, we can't even close them down.   Nov 30 2008, 08:56 PM
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