[Tennie]

Manchester City host Milan in a friendly on August 9 at the City of Manchester Stadium.

[han2503]

Seedorf is an attacking midfielder. Attacking midfielders are including in the list of strikers. I knew that Carlo should have taken Aubameyang to the tournament, but who cares in the end? It was just a friendly. If anything this forced us back into consideration for the market. I'm fine with the result being a shocker, because it exposed gaping holes in our defense.

Seedorf isn't technically as attacking midfielder like Kaka or R10, he's more box-to-box and I prefered when he was played in a deeper role. The only reason Galliani started referring to him as a forward is because our only strikers where Gila, Pippo and Oliveira/Ronaldo and last season Pato who couldn't play until after January, so is order to make the front line seem more equipped he started referring to Kaka and Seedorf as forwards, and that's also when the official site started listing them as such. Galliani thinks that fans are stupid and would go along for this cr@p, like Ambro playing in defence, next thing you'll know he'' start calling him a defender and the official site listing him as a defender. Our defence has been terrible for these last 3 years, in 05/06, we still had Sheva, Gila had a good first season and Kaka scored a lot of goals that season in the league also, but our defence was still going bad, but since we had those players I mentioned all scoring a lot of goals we didn't take a big blow. But last season and the one before that where we had been struggling to score goals and we were conceeding tons of goals it effected us a lot having the defence we had. And even with all this happening in front of Galliani's eyes we still never bought a quality defender and they did not consider getting a defender after the Chelsea result either. The media just wanted to make it seem that way because they have nothing to say on Milan so the Chelsea result openened the door for new speculation regarding defenders, but it was never really considered by Galliani and he himself repeated this hundreds of times

It was his decision, but I would have done the exact same tihng as Carlo did. It was not worth it.

You yourself said that you would have taken Aubemayang in the paragrapgh befor this one. nd why wouldn't it be worth it? It's not like Carlo would be carrying the kid on his back! And not only would it have given Carlo better options upfront where we literally have no first team strikers but it would have provided Aubemayang with some playing time.

Get over it. It's past history. If I recall properly we lost a friendly in 2003 5-1... I don't remember to whom. And even worse.. in the Champions League we lost 4-0 to Deportivo, to lose 5-4 on the aggregate. That's more stinging than anything here with this dumb friendly.

Those are different things you are mentioning, those were the first signs of a team that could crumble which were then repeated in Istanbul. But this friendly is supposed to give us an indication of where the team is at before the start of the season and I'm not just mad because of the shameful result but EXTREMELY worried about the defence. Because Nesta or not, it won't be enough becuase all the others around him ar not up to standard and that worries me a lot, especially when I know that Carlo will continue to start Kaladze

It's simply a friendly. There are some things we can learn from it... but, there is no reason to go on a bashing fest of Ancelotti for a STUPID friendly. And most of our experienced forwards were in some other part of the world, or just out on injury.

Yes , it's a stupid friendly, but as I said, it clearly showed all our problems in defence when it comes to facing a top quality team, and we're just not up to standard

This is why I'm hoping the Ivanovic deal goes through.

Well you can keep hoping because Milan will not buy anyone else this summer, that I'm sure of.