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Manchester City host Milan in a friendly on August 9 at the City of Manchester Stadium.
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QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 8 2008, 09:07 PM) *
This is simply not fair. Seedorf is not a striker, and Paloschi has played 5 games in 15 days. He played in a U-19 Championship and the final. It's just not fair to Paloschi and he could have had an injury. I've read somewhere he was tired after all he has been through. While the game was imbalanced, I'll take that over risking injury to Paloschi.

You say Seedorf's not a striker, I say Seedorf's not a striker but that's what he's listed as on the official site and that's what Galliani says he is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) What I meant is playing Seedorf in the spot he played these last 2 seasons behind the striker not as an out and out striker

And sure Paloschi would have been tired after playing so many games in such a short ammount of time but Carlo could have taken another primavera striker to the tournament, he knew the predicament the squad was in and should have prepared better.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 8 2008, 09:20 PM) *
On hindsight, yes ... But Carlo stated before the match that Palo didnt get any rest and was very tired.

Palo played with the NT and went directly to prepare with Milan for the Tim Trophy. And leaving out Seedorf might have been a precaution for something in particular.

han no one likes to loose, but at the end of the day there was nothing to gain from this match cuz it was a friendly.

Carlo takes the blame ? Why, because he doesn't know how to make omelettes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I didn't watch the match han ... I only saw the highlights yesterday after work .... To concede 3 goals in the opening minutes of the game, that is a matter to frown down upon.

But to start pointing fingers ... We already know that Carlo didn't have the players to complete the team, hence the team was bound to be 'unbalanced' .... you described the unbalancing as if it was Ambro's falt or Carlos .... The fault isn't there .. The fault is on the misfortune of Milan for having lost Inzaghi, Borriello, Kaka', and Nesta. And that Pato and Ronaldinho were not available. If you put these FIRST TEAM players back in the fold, I doubt Chelsea would have had an easy game, just as the scoreline suggested.

As I said to Giancarlo, yes it would have been too much to play Paloschi again in the match against Chelsea but Carlo knew how short we were in that area taking another Primavera striker would have been a smarter decision since he knew that Palo couldn't play the final match of the tournament because of fatigue

Ofcourse no one likes to lose, because as you said this is a friendly, frankly I would have been slightly disappointed had we lost 1-0 even 2-0 and not even think about it twice considering all the limitation Milan we had going into the game but to lose in such a manner, not only just the score line but to bow our haeds and give up within the first 6 minutes into the game was just un-acceptible. Yes at the end of the day it's still a friendly but it's an emberassment non-the-kess to get hammered the way we did.

Yes Carlo us partly to blame, he should have come into it better prepared (knew Palo couldn't play both games so why not take another primavera striker with him?) and his formation and games plan were bad decisions on his part. I'm not blaming Ambro, why would I? It would be highly unfair to criticise a player that is being played out of position. You could actually see how uncomfortable he was playing as a striker.

As for saying that this wouldn't have happened had those players you mentioned been playing, you can't be so certain, becuase only Nesta was missing in the defence and the mistakes that Kaladze made that resulted into goals would have still occured becase there is no way Nesta could have managed to cover those errors. As far as I can see our biggest problem is in defence, the attack I'm not worried about because we have a lot of great players missing but in defence we're all over the place and with Nesta and Maldini both injury prone we'll conceed cheap goals that will cost us important points in the league

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- Tennie   Manchester City - Milan   Aug 5 2008, 11:38 AM
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|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 5 2008, 04:55 PM) Ho...   Aug 5 2008, 02:16 PM
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- - Nova   any tv channel showing it ?   Aug 5 2008, 02:06 PM
|- - weeeow   QUOTE (Nova @ Aug 5 2008, 02:06 PM) any t...   Aug 5 2008, 02:21 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Nova @ Aug 5 2008, 04:06 PM) any t...   Aug 8 2008, 04:26 PM
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- - acid911   Can't funking wait for this match.   Aug 5 2008, 05:55 PM
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