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kdman
post Dec 10 2007, 03:47 PM
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I remember the Mourinho debate generated some heated arguments (with some getting personal), and the thread subsquently closed. But I believe it is a worthy topic, especially now that the Mourinho-to-Milan issue has resurfaced in the media.
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Personal I would welcome him, as I rate very high. It certainly won't be step backward if he replaces Carlo. But who knows, it might just be media talk, but the story is certainly gaining momentum (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 10 2007, 08:20 PM
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He's a great coach... but he lacks class (as a person (judging on what he shows us))... hope he has cooled down after his spell in England. Maybe he even behaved that way intentionally in order to attract the media's interest, who knows? In any case, I wouldn't want a gritch on Milan's bench no matter how good he is. He has to change... As I said before, Silvio could take particular care of that! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post Dec 10 2007, 08:55 PM
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Jose Mourinho is a dictator, not a facilitator like Carlo. Carlo will faciliate beautiful football, Mourinho will demand it. It is his way and that's how it is. If you are unhappy in the team that's a personal problem, not his. If he loses faith in you, you might as well stop suiting up for matches. He is not the type of personality we are used to here. Here, with CARLETTO, the players trust him and he trusts them. It's a fluid relationship where they argue with eachother one match, and then share a joke and hug the next. The relationship the players have with Carletto is one of the reasons Milan has the atmosphere it has! It is an open atmosphere that inspires. Mourinho tries to inspire through benching and silent treatment. Do you think our veteran players would enjoy that?

What this really comes down to is what kind of atmosphere do you want at Milan? Are you a fan of the the warm, family like atmosphere that allows veterans to excel and allows youngsters to adapt slowly? or would you quickly sell that away for some more youthful flashy players, and potentially a better, more daring tactician that won't hesitate to put in a gourcuff over a brocchi.

Milan with Carletto is a trusting, patient, but sometimes unmotivated Milan. Milan with Mourinho is strict, regimented, his way or the bench. Motivation by fire. Milan with Carlo is ressurecting careers, bringing in veterans, and tradition (older players - favalli, emerson, ronaldo). Milan with Mourinho is Winning oriented, youth development, like it or leave it. (Drogba?, a tap into Portugal's talented youth, and whoever else he attracts).

From what I've seen of him, Mourinho won't take **** when Seedorf shows his personality and challenges him. That sort of thing was unheard of at Chelsea. When players were upset and talking to the media about it, Mourinho would ignore it, says it doesnt affect him. Carlo knows how to deal with his players. Even if he opposes them, he'll stand firm, but always maintain respect, and work it out. Veterans love that. Mourinho will just put them in his dog house.

So, the question is, do you like the idea of Jose walking our bench, potentially attracting some superstars, and changing the culture? Or do we like Carlo looking stoic as ever on the bench smoking cigarettes, talking to Tassoti, and running the show like the proven coach he is.

I personally don't know. But I do think that this season is basically as bad as it will get. I really don't think the managment is going to rely SO heavily on the old guys next season, and we potentially will have a new mid and/or defender next year. And I think that new options on the field is far more important that replacing our coach. Carlo with some new options in attack and midfield, could easily win us more titles I have no doubt, but I also have no doubt Mourinho would bring us glory too, it's just how do we want to go about getting it.

To sum it up - Mourinho is like the cut throat business man who lights a fire under his workers, and thus always gets the job done. And Carlo is the layed back kind who makes sure his cows are happy, and we all know that great cheese comes from happy cows..With Carlo, things are so comfortable that motivation of players affects results. That wouldn't be the case with Mourinho because he only plays the ones that try hard.

Either way, I think they are both great coaches. Does Mourinho fit Milan? not necessarily, but he could be great here regardless, and IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE HUMBLING to work for Berlu and coach PAOLO. I couldn't see Mourinho trying to boss them around..and in that situation? Mourinho could be one of the most successful coaches at Milan. There is absolutely no denying his tactical genious, because for a few years it seemed every substitution/tactical change for Chelsea was a perfect one.

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- kdman   Mourinho - Coming, coming...?   Dec 10 2007, 03:47 PM
- - Tennie   I don't see any reliable sources for the Mouri...   Dec 10 2007, 04:02 PM
- - Warchant   1) he's stated in the past that national teams...   Dec 10 2007, 04:34 PM
|- - Portikins   QUOTE (Warchant @ Dec 10 2007, 03:34 PM)1) he...   Dec 10 2007, 07:58 PM
- - armisse   He can go to HEll but he cant reach Via Turati Doo...   Dec 10 2007, 04:51 PM
- - Nova   just the idea ...   Dec 10 2007, 06:03 PM
|- - I_Rossoneri   QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 10 2007, 05:03 PM)just the ...   Dec 10 2007, 07:22 PM
- - Tennie   I hope we can keep this thread polite. In an effo...   Dec 10 2007, 08:05 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 10 2007, 10:35 PM)I hope ...   Dec 11 2007, 04:42 PM
- - I_Rossoneri   He was one of the most meticulous managers in the ...   Dec 10 2007, 08:20 PM
- - dst   QUOTE (vnata001 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:55 PM)we al...   Dec 10 2007, 09:19 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Exactly!! The cheese comment was hilario...   Dec 11 2007, 04:44 AM
- - bigmacmtl   i think a big part of mourinho being a pest and wi...   Dec 11 2007, 04:59 AM
- - kurtsimonw   I rate Carlo and Jose both highly. The main argue...   Dec 11 2007, 05:00 AM
|- - bigmacmtl   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 10 2007, 11:00 PM)I r...   Dec 11 2007, 05:04 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   I disagree. Last year and this one were the first ...   Dec 11 2007, 05:10 AM
- - Warchant   i'm torn on this one i like carlo...but i thi...   Dec 11 2007, 06:36 AM
|- - kdman   QUOTE (Warchant @ Dec 11 2007, 06:36 AM)i...   Dec 11 2007, 09:04 AM
- - aLbErTo   no way, jose carlo is the man...we'll now win...   Dec 11 2007, 08:42 AM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Dec 11 2007, 07:42 AM)no way...   Dec 12 2007, 01:44 PM
|- - whoarethepatriots   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 12 2007, 12:44 PM)Rum...   Dec 12 2007, 04:14 PM
- - dst   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 11 2007, 06:00 AM)If ...   Dec 11 2007, 10:27 AM
- - Tennie   Here's an interesting twist on the story. Gaz...   Dec 11 2007, 01:54 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE With Jose Mourinho looking likely to take ov...   Dec 12 2007, 05:26 AM
- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 11 2007, 07:00 AM)I r...   Dec 12 2007, 08:46 AM
|- - kdman   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 12 2007, 08:46 AM)Gou...   Dec 12 2007, 11:16 AM
- - Tennie   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 11 2007, 11:42 AM)th...   Dec 12 2007, 11:43 AM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 12 2007, 02:13 PM)No, I s...   Dec 12 2007, 11:52 AM
- - Rossoneri7   DP   Dec 12 2007, 11:44 AM
- - Rossoneri7   DP   Dec 12 2007, 11:45 AM
- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE Cool Ancelotti: Mourinho Speculation Spurs M...   Dec 12 2007, 11:46 AM
- - Tennie   Thing is, even if Mourinho only comments on pitch-...   Dec 12 2007, 12:31 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Well I'll tell you what, it would bother me a ...   Dec 12 2007, 06:23 PM
- - dst   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2007, 07:23 PM)W...   Dec 12 2007, 08:00 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (dst @ Dec 12 2007, 10:00 PM)Or maybe i...   Dec 12 2007, 08:27 PM
- - mishie   Mourinho just doesn't sit well with me i'm...   Dec 12 2007, 08:49 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   ^^^^ No, no, no...you can't sit on the fence ...   Dec 13 2007, 05:37 AM
|- - bigmacmtl   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2007, 11:37 PM)^...   Dec 13 2007, 09:12 AM
|- - kdman   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 13 2007, 05:37 AM)H...   Dec 13 2007, 02:31 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 13 2007, 04:31 PM)C'mo...   Dec 13 2007, 04:30 PM
|- - kdman   Well, we all have our opinions in this matter. F...   Dec 14 2007, 10:56 AM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 14 2007, 12:56 PM)Well, we...   Dec 14 2007, 11:11 AM
||- - kdman   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 14 2007, 11:11 AM)Car...   Dec 15 2007, 12:11 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 14 2007, 01:26 PM)Well, we...   Dec 14 2007, 11:23 AM
|- - I_Rossoneri   QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 14 2007, 09:56 AM)Well, we...   Dec 15 2007, 12:58 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE Jose Mourinho is searching for a new high-pr...   Dec 14 2007, 12:27 PM
- - dst   Mourinho has an official website!??   Dec 14 2007, 03:43 PM
|- - Portikins   QUOTE (dst @ Dec 14 2007, 02:43 PM)Mourinho h...   Dec 14 2007, 04:13 PM
- - I_Rossoneri   When we're losing and carlo brings on either a...   Dec 15 2007, 12:57 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Galliani gave an interview to Mediaset (Silvio...   Dec 15 2007, 10:50 PM
|- - kdman   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 15 2007, 10:50 PM)Gal...   Dec 17 2007, 10:43 AM
|- - faheem_rulz   Marco VAn BAsten maybe...   Dec 17 2007, 09:23 PM
- - bigmacmtl   LOL carlo is calling his 4-3-2-1 a 4-3-3 now   Dec 15 2007, 11:23 PM
- - Tennie   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 15 2007, 05:50 PM)if ...   Dec 16 2007, 02:13 AM
- - misha   I would give Franco a chance. He has been coaching...   Dec 16 2007, 02:48 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Bringing Franco would also help out, since it woul...   Dec 16 2007, 05:41 AM
- - Darunia   Seedorf is not a striker =/ 4-3-3 funny.   Dec 16 2007, 07:35 AM
- - Tennie   (from the ticker on acmilan.com's italian page...   Dec 16 2007, 08:51 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   ^^^ Heh heh heh... @misha: Our brood grows. You g...   Dec 18 2007, 04:53 AM
- - misha   You might recruit few people but my side is much ...   Dec 18 2007, 02:53 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Burn!! (thanks for the catchphrase kurt...   Dec 18 2007, 07:21 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 18 2007, 06:21 PM)B...   Dec 18 2007, 07:26 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Nope...I like the other hippie dude though. The on...   Dec 18 2007, 07:32 PM
- - zdrossoneri   It seems GOAL.COM wants him to be our coach!   Dec 25 2007, 06:54 PM
|- - Portikins   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 25 2007, 05:54 PM)It...   Dec 26 2007, 12:11 AM
|- - misha   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 25 2007, 07:54 PM)It...   Dec 26 2007, 02:50 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   I really hope not,..that's the only thing I ca...   Dec 25 2007, 10:16 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   SILENCE!!! I KILL YOU!!!...   Dec 26 2007, 10:26 AM
- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Porty @ Dec 26 2007, 02:41 AM)  ...   Dec 26 2007, 05:01 PM
- - kdman   You can say that again!!!   Dec 26 2007, 06:58 PM
- - Tennie   Mourinho to Milan? If that happens, I...   Dec 27 2007, 06:12 AM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 27 2007, 08:12 AM)Mourinh...   Jan 8 2008, 12:12 PM
- - zdrossoneri   Mourinho Set For Milan Despite Barça Enquiry J...   Jan 8 2008, 11:53 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Heck no...Mourinho over Mancini anyday. But if Car...   Jan 8 2008, 01:26 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 8 2008, 12:26 PM)He...   Jan 8 2008, 02:58 PM


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