Sources:The Times
Goal.com
Personal I would welcome him, as I rate very high. It certainly won't be step backward if he replaces Carlo. But who knows, it might just be media talk, but the story is certainly gaining momentum
Full Version: Mourinho - Coming, coming...?
I remember the Mourinho debate generated some heated arguments (with some getting personal), and the thread subsquently closed. But I believe it is a worthy topic, especially now that the Mourinho-to-Milan issue has resurfaced in the media.
Sources:The Times
Goal.com
Personal I would welcome him, as I rate very high. It certainly won't be step backward if he replaces Carlo. But who knows, it might just be media talk, but the story is certainly gaining momentum
Sources:The Times
Goal.com
Personal I would welcome him, as I rate very high. It certainly won't be step backward if he replaces Carlo. But who knows, it might just be media talk, but the story is certainly gaining momentum
I don't see any reliable sources for the Mourinho-has-signed-an-agreement-with-Milan argument. The Times article states it but doesn't supply where the information comes from. Goal.com quotes Gazzetta, but the Gazzetta article quotes the Sun and Daily Mail and neither of those are reliable.
Without getting into argument as to the appropriateness of Jose Mourinho for the coaching job at AC Milan, I wonder if these articles are in part a plant by the FA to cover themselves when/if they don't get him.
Without getting into argument as to the appropriateness of Jose Mourinho for the coaching job at AC Milan, I wonder if these articles are in part a plant by the FA to cover themselves when/if they don't get him.
1) he's stated in the past that national teams should be coach by people from that nation, not a foreigner
2) he's said he wants to end his career in italy
3) milan is not having the "best" of years
*shrugs*
2) he's said he wants to end his career in italy
3) milan is not having the "best" of years
*shrugs*
He can go to HEll but he cant reach Via Turati Doors !!!!
just the idea ... 
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 10 2007, 05:03 PM)
just the idea ...
And what an idea
Jose is a fantastic manager and would revolutionize Milan IMO.
QUOTE (Warchant @ Dec 10 2007, 03:34 PM)
1) he's stated in the past that national teams should be coach by people from that nation, not a foreigner
2) he's said he wants to end his career in italy
3) milan is not having the "best" of years
*shrugs*
2) he's said he wants to end his career in italy
3) milan is not having the "best" of years
*shrugs*
He said he wanted to coach in Italy after England, yes. But never said he wanted to end his career in Italy.
He'll end his career as Portuguese NT coach.
Anyway, you already know my opinion about this. He's the best out there. And he already stated that Milan is a club he admires.
I hope we can keep this thread polite.
In an effort to maintain politeness, I am going to respectfully disagree with I Rossoneri and Porty. I don't think Mourinho is the best out there when it comes to finding a coach for Milan. He has had good results and seems able to keep his players motivated, yes. But Jose's public persona is, in my opinion, Not Classy and he is in his public persona Not A Gentleman and does not present the sort of image I personally would like to see Milan present. Also, he's never played at Milan and Milan has a history of hiring former players to coach them.
In an effort to maintain politeness, I am going to respectfully disagree with I Rossoneri and Porty. I don't think Mourinho is the best out there when it comes to finding a coach for Milan. He has had good results and seems able to keep his players motivated, yes. But Jose's public persona is, in my opinion, Not Classy and he is in his public persona Not A Gentleman and does not present the sort of image I personally would like to see Milan present. Also, he's never played at Milan and Milan has a history of hiring former players to coach them.
He was one of the most meticulous managers in the epl and he wasn't afraid of changing things if things weren't going his way. He might talk a lot but most of the time he is psyching the opposition out - I seem to remember him winding Benitez up! 
Also on many occasions he stated that he wanted to model chelsea on Milan as he respects Milan as the best club in the world.
Also on many occasions he stated that he wanted to model chelsea on Milan as he respects Milan as the best club in the world.
He's a great coach... but he lacks class (as a person (judging on what he shows us))... hope he has cooled down after his spell in England. Maybe he even behaved that way intentionally in order to attract the media's interest, who knows? In any case, I wouldn't want a gritch on Milan's bench no matter how good he is. He has to change... As I said before, Silvio could take particular care of that!
Jose Mourinho is a dictator, not a facilitator like Carlo. Carlo will faciliate beautiful football, Mourinho will demand it. It is his way and that's how it is. If you are unhappy in the team that's a personal problem, not his. If he loses faith in you, you might as well stop suiting up for matches. He is not the type of personality we are used to here. Here, with CARLETTO, the players trust him and he trusts them. It's a fluid relationship where they argue with eachother one match, and then share a joke and hug the next. The relationship the players have with Carletto is one of the reasons Milan has the atmosphere it has! It is an open atmosphere that inspires. Mourinho tries to inspire through benching and silent treatment. Do you think our veteran players would enjoy that?
What this really comes down to is what kind of atmosphere do you want at Milan? Are you a fan of the the warm, family like atmosphere that allows veterans to excel and allows youngsters to adapt slowly? or would you quickly sell that away for some more youthful flashy players, and potentially a better, more daring tactician that won't hesitate to put in a gourcuff over a brocchi.
Milan with Carletto is a trusting, patient, but sometimes unmotivated Milan. Milan with Mourinho is strict, regimented, his way or the bench. Motivation by fire. Milan with Carlo is ressurecting careers, bringing in veterans, and tradition (older players - favalli, emerson, ronaldo). Milan with Mourinho is Winning oriented, youth development, like it or leave it. (Drogba?, a tap into Portugal's talented youth, and whoever else he attracts).
From what I've seen of him, Mourinho won't take **** when Seedorf shows his personality and challenges him. That sort of thing was unheard of at Chelsea. When players were upset and talking to the media about it, Mourinho would ignore it, says it doesnt affect him. Carlo knows how to deal with his players. Even if he opposes them, he'll stand firm, but always maintain respect, and work it out. Veterans love that. Mourinho will just put them in his dog house.
So, the question is, do you like the idea of Jose walking our bench, potentially attracting some superstars, and changing the culture? Or do we like Carlo looking stoic as ever on the bench smoking cigarettes, talking to Tassoti, and running the show like the proven coach he is.
I personally don't know. But I do think that this season is basically as bad as it will get. I really don't think the managment is going to rely SO heavily on the old guys next season, and we potentially will have a new mid and/or defender next year. And I think that new options on the field is far more important that replacing our coach. Carlo with some new options in attack and midfield, could easily win us more titles I have no doubt, but I also have no doubt Mourinho would bring us glory too, it's just how do we want to go about getting it.
To sum it up - Mourinho is like the cut throat business man who lights a fire under his workers, and thus always gets the job done. And Carlo is the layed back kind who makes sure his cows are happy, and we all know that great cheese comes from happy cows..With Carlo, things are so comfortable that motivation of players affects results. That wouldn't be the case with Mourinho because he only plays the ones that try hard.
Either way, I think they are both great coaches. Does Mourinho fit Milan? not necessarily, but he could be great here regardless, and IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE HUMBLING to work for Berlu and coach PAOLO. I couldn't see Mourinho trying to boss them around..and in that situation? Mourinho could be one of the most successful coaches at Milan. There is absolutely no denying his tactical genious, because for a few years it seemed every substitution/tactical change for Chelsea was a perfect one.
What this really comes down to is what kind of atmosphere do you want at Milan? Are you a fan of the the warm, family like atmosphere that allows veterans to excel and allows youngsters to adapt slowly? or would you quickly sell that away for some more youthful flashy players, and potentially a better, more daring tactician that won't hesitate to put in a gourcuff over a brocchi.
Milan with Carletto is a trusting, patient, but sometimes unmotivated Milan. Milan with Mourinho is strict, regimented, his way or the bench. Motivation by fire. Milan with Carlo is ressurecting careers, bringing in veterans, and tradition (older players - favalli, emerson, ronaldo). Milan with Mourinho is Winning oriented, youth development, like it or leave it. (Drogba?, a tap into Portugal's talented youth, and whoever else he attracts).
From what I've seen of him, Mourinho won't take **** when Seedorf shows his personality and challenges him. That sort of thing was unheard of at Chelsea. When players were upset and talking to the media about it, Mourinho would ignore it, says it doesnt affect him. Carlo knows how to deal with his players. Even if he opposes them, he'll stand firm, but always maintain respect, and work it out. Veterans love that. Mourinho will just put them in his dog house.
So, the question is, do you like the idea of Jose walking our bench, potentially attracting some superstars, and changing the culture? Or do we like Carlo looking stoic as ever on the bench smoking cigarettes, talking to Tassoti, and running the show like the proven coach he is.
I personally don't know. But I do think that this season is basically as bad as it will get. I really don't think the managment is going to rely SO heavily on the old guys next season, and we potentially will have a new mid and/or defender next year. And I think that new options on the field is far more important that replacing our coach. Carlo with some new options in attack and midfield, could easily win us more titles I have no doubt, but I also have no doubt Mourinho would bring us glory too, it's just how do we want to go about getting it.
To sum it up - Mourinho is like the cut throat business man who lights a fire under his workers, and thus always gets the job done. And Carlo is the layed back kind who makes sure his cows are happy, and we all know that great cheese comes from happy cows..With Carlo, things are so comfortable that motivation of players affects results. That wouldn't be the case with Mourinho because he only plays the ones that try hard.
Either way, I think they are both great coaches. Does Mourinho fit Milan? not necessarily, but he could be great here regardless, and IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE HUMBLING to work for Berlu and coach PAOLO. I couldn't see Mourinho trying to boss them around..and in that situation? Mourinho could be one of the most successful coaches at Milan. There is absolutely no denying his tactical genious, because for a few years it seemed every substitution/tactical change for Chelsea was a perfect one.
QUOTE (vnata001 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:55 PM)
we all know that great cheese comes from happy cows..
do we??
Great post. Mourinho's way of coaching does not concern me, Capello did not use to be much different. It's his attitude that I find annoying...
Exactly!! 
The cheese comment was hilarious. Except in Seedorf's case, you should try something like 'Good chocolate comes only when Willy Wonka is happy'
My decision was already made. I prefer the family atmosphere to Milan playing like a machine.
It's like Ronaldo said, players nowadays don't accept the regimented training etc that the old Capello used. They have so many options nowadays, they'll just up and leave.
As such I don't find Mourinho's attitude to the media too annoying. It's one of those cases when you love it when he's on your side, and hate it when he's on the other. We shouldn't talk, seeing as we have Inzaghi and Rino.
No, it's the in-fighting I'm worried about. There was a whole lot of politics at play in that Chelsea dressing room, I don't know if Roman had a hand in it or not. And as for the Sheva thing and Roman wanting him more than Jose, it's the same thing with Silvio and R20.
I don't want a coach, who's gonna win titles and leave behind a fractured team and play dull football.
The cheese comment was hilarious. Except in Seedorf's case, you should try something like 'Good chocolate comes only when Willy Wonka is happy'
My decision was already made. I prefer the family atmosphere to Milan playing like a machine.
It's like Ronaldo said, players nowadays don't accept the regimented training etc that the old Capello used. They have so many options nowadays, they'll just up and leave.
As such I don't find Mourinho's attitude to the media too annoying. It's one of those cases when you love it when he's on your side, and hate it when he's on the other. We shouldn't talk, seeing as we have Inzaghi and Rino.
No, it's the in-fighting I'm worried about. There was a whole lot of politics at play in that Chelsea dressing room, I don't know if Roman had a hand in it or not. And as for the Sheva thing and Roman wanting him more than Jose, it's the same thing with Silvio and R20.
I don't want a coach, who's gonna win titles and leave behind a fractured team and play dull football.
i think a big part of mourinho being a pest and winding up a opponents was when he came to chelsea he came to a club with no identity, history and character. he too it upon himself to amke them stand out and light a spark. i mean theres more too it, it's also the way he is i guess...
I rate Carlo and Jose both highly.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 10 2007, 11:00 PM)
I rate Carlo and Jose both highly.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
and thats what we are lacking.
I disagree. Last year and this one were the first time we were ever not challenging on both fronts.
Last year, was understandable. We were going to be over worked, and we had no strikers.
This year is a disappointment. Comes down to Milan Lab's huge mistake about R99's fitness.( They don't usually get it wrong. They've worked miracles with Cafu and Sergio and Ambro). But the first in a long time. I'm willing to forgive and forget. Bugger, I've seen worse.
I still believe Carletto should be allowed to make his second generation team. We owe him that. After that, if like Jol he screws up, I won't say no to letting him go. I doubt it will happen though.
Last year, was understandable. We were going to be over worked, and we had no strikers.
This year is a disappointment. Comes down to Milan Lab's huge mistake about R99's fitness.( They don't usually get it wrong. They've worked miracles with Cafu and Sergio and Ambro). But the first in a long time. I'm willing to forgive and forget. Bugger, I've seen worse.
I still believe Carletto should be allowed to make his second generation team. We owe him that. After that, if like Jol he screws up, I won't say no to letting him go. I doubt it will happen though.
i'm torn on this one
i like carlo...but i think his biggest fault is that he is the player's friend (heck, he was paolo's teammate).
i like jose...but he is an arrogant prick who drives teams to win instead of motivates teams to win
one controlled his league, the other has controlled the CL
we need a coach that can do both...i'm not sure either can give us that
i like carlo...but i think his biggest fault is that he is the player's friend (heck, he was paolo's teammate).
i like jose...but he is an arrogant prick who drives teams to win instead of motivates teams to win
one controlled his league, the other has controlled the CL
we need a coach that can do both...i'm not sure either can give us that
no way, jose carlo is the man...we'll now win on WCC and then all the roumours will die again 
carlo is the man...we'll now win on WCC and then all the roumours will die again
QUOTE (Warchant @ Dec 11 2007, 06:36 AM)
i'm torn on this one
i like carlo...but i think his biggest fault is that he is the player's friend (heck, he was paolo's teammate).
i like jose...but he is an arrogant prick who drives teams to win instead of motivates teams to win
one controlled his league, the other has controlled the CL
we need a coach that can do both...i'm not sure either can give us that
i like carlo...but i think his biggest fault is that he is the player's friend (heck, he was paolo's teammate).
i like jose...but he is an arrogant prick who drives teams to win instead of motivates teams to win
one controlled his league, the other has controlled the CL
we need a coach that can do both...i'm not sure either can give us that
I get your drift
Actually I'm not sold on the argument that Jose's personality/style endangers team spirit. He's one of the most greatest motivators around. Players like him and want to win for him. This is evidenced by the near revolt at chelsea when he left. Most of the players publicly made veiled statements about their unhappiness when he left. Plus he's not a regimented-style coach. I mean he varies his formations/subs to match situations. He can get his team to play excellent football. Heck, talking about defensive coaches, Carlo should be up there with the rest. Too stuck-up. I bet you Carlo won't mind playing Emerson/Gattuso/Ambro together. Anyway, that's neither here nor there, I just felt Jose would give us that 'something' we've been missing, especially in the league, and now that the team needs rejuvinating. Be sure he would DEMAND for reinforcements. He's not a 'yes' man.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 11 2007, 06:00 AM)
If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
Silvio is not the same as Abramovich! I'm not saying Mourinho will bow down before him but his word matters and he can influence every one...
QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 11 2007, 10:04 AM)
He can get his team to play excellent football.
I've never seen that from Mourinho. Except for a couple of times at Porto. His Chelsea were simply awfully painful to watch!
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 10 2007, 10:35 PM)
I hope we can keep this thread polite.
In an effort to maintain politeness, I am going to respectfully disagree with I Rossoneri and Porty. I don't think Mourinho is the best out there when it comes to finding a coach for Milan. He has had good results and seems able to keep his players motivated, yes. But Jose's public persona is, in my opinion, Not Classy and he is in his public persona Not A Gentleman and does not present the sort of image I personally would like to see Milan present. Also, he's never played at Milan and Milan has a history of hiring former players to coach them.
In an effort to maintain politeness, I am going to respectfully disagree with I Rossoneri and Porty. I don't think Mourinho is the best out there when it comes to finding a coach for Milan. He has had good results and seems able to keep his players motivated, yes. But Jose's public persona is, in my opinion, Not Classy and he is in his public persona Not A Gentleman and does not present the sort of image I personally would like to see Milan present. Also, he's never played at Milan and Milan has a history of hiring former players to coach them.
You're right about his public persona, but that's England. even "Sir" Alex Ferguson [more or less] has had such behaviour and public persona, Rafa and Wenger too. no disrespect, but that's how the English football is. even Barca and Real's coaches don't attack each other every weekend the way EPL coaches do, and they have the world's bitterest rivalry in football. I say it again, you're right about his manners, but there's no way you can convince me [and other Mou fans] that he will repeat those kind of behaviours in Italian league too, is there?
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With Jose Mourinho looking likely to take over as Coach of AC Milan next season, Carlo Garganese asks whether this is a good or bad move for the Rossoneri…
There can be no doubting that Jose Mourinho is one of the best coaches in world football – indeed his record speaks for itself.
Two full seasons at FC Porto – two Portuguese championships, one Portuguese Cup, one UEFA Cup, one Champions League, and one Portuguese Supercup.
Three full seasons at Chelsea – two Premier League titles, two League Cups, one FA Cup and one FA community shield.
Those people who say that the Special One only succeeded at Chelsea because of Roman Abramovich’s money are either jealous Arsenal, Liverpool or Manchester United supporters, or generally do not have much of an understanding of what being a manager is all about.
You can go through the history of the game and pick out numerous examples of teams that have been bankrolled by millionaire chairman or presidents and have achieved absolutely nothing.
Perhaps the best example of this in recent years is Inter Milan, who spent hundreds of millions of pounds when Massimo Moratti took over the club in the mid-90s and won nothing of any significance until after last season’s Calciopoli crisis.
Of course money is important, but nothing is more important than a great manager and that is what Mourinho is.
Tactically Mourinho is a genius – in this respect he is as good as any Italian coach – Capello and Lippi included.I have lost count the number of games that he influenced with inspired substitutions or masterful changes in tactics and formation.
Mourinho is what you call a proactive coach, rather than a reactive coach. He sees what is going to happen before it has happened, and thus makes a change to prevent that negative event from taking place.
Indeed I record a cup tie where he hauled off two of his players, one I think was Shaun Wright-Phillips, after just 30 minutes because the game was not going to plan.
Mourinho is perfect for the Italian game tactically. He has the Italian, win-at-all-costs mentality – the Machiavellian concept that “the end justifies the meansâ€.
However for all his genius – is Mourinho the right kind of character for AC Milan?
The Rossoneri are renowned as a club who pride themselves on their class, prestige, history, diplomacy and political correctness.There can be no doubting that Mourinho, unless he has a sudden character change, is none of these things.
Some would call the self-proclaimed ‘Special One’ arrogant – others would say he just speaks the truth.Whichever side you take, there can be no doubting that Mourinho has often caused controversy. He was handed a two-match touchline ban by UEFA after he accused referee Anders Frisk of talking with Barcelona Coach Frank Rijkaard during half-time of a big Champions League knockout tie in 2005.
This led UEFA referee’s chief, Volker Roth, to describe Mourinho as an “enemy of footballâ€. This did not deter the tactician who purportedly hid in a laundry basket in the Chelsea changing room so that he could speak to his players during the subsequent quarter-final tie with Bayern Munich, for which Mourinho was of course banned for.
Other storms include the Ashley Cole tapping-up incident as well as labelling Arsene Wenger as a “voyeur†following a dispute with the Arsenal boss.It is certain that a club with the esteemed stature of AC Milan will not tolerate such behaviour from Mourinho.
For all his wonderful charisma, and the unique press-conferences that delight many football fans, Mourinho will have to adhere to the Milan code of conduct. Whether this kind of marriage will last – I am not sure.
The second possible point of conflict comes over the team’s playing style. Mourinho favours his team to play tactically, physically and some would say defensively. Milan on the other hand are famed for their unique brand of beautiful and technical football. It is this that has led them to two Champions League victories, one final, one semi-final and one quarter-final in the past five years.
Whether or not the Rossoneri supporters would accept such a sudden shift from attack to defence is debatable.This may also pose a problem to players like Andrea Pirlo and Clarence Seedorf, who could struggle to flourish in a rigid tactical system.
Mourinho is very similar to Fabio Capello. Both are winners, however neither win with style.Capello won La Liga with Real Madrid last season, however he was immediately sacked because this was achieved by playing defensive and tactical football.Could the same thing happen to Mourinho at Milan?
If as expected, Mourinho does take over as Coach of Milan I have no doubts that he will do a brilliant job, and I could see him winning the Scudetto in his first season.However the doubts still remain over both his controversial nature and his ‘un-Milan’ style of football.
There can be no doubting that Jose Mourinho is one of the best coaches in world football – indeed his record speaks for itself.
Two full seasons at FC Porto – two Portuguese championships, one Portuguese Cup, one UEFA Cup, one Champions League, and one Portuguese Supercup.
Three full seasons at Chelsea – two Premier League titles, two League Cups, one FA Cup and one FA community shield.
Those people who say that the Special One only succeeded at Chelsea because of Roman Abramovich’s money are either jealous Arsenal, Liverpool or Manchester United supporters, or generally do not have much of an understanding of what being a manager is all about.
You can go through the history of the game and pick out numerous examples of teams that have been bankrolled by millionaire chairman or presidents and have achieved absolutely nothing.
Perhaps the best example of this in recent years is Inter Milan, who spent hundreds of millions of pounds when Massimo Moratti took over the club in the mid-90s and won nothing of any significance until after last season’s Calciopoli crisis.
Of course money is important, but nothing is more important than a great manager and that is what Mourinho is.
Tactically Mourinho is a genius – in this respect he is as good as any Italian coach – Capello and Lippi included.I have lost count the number of games that he influenced with inspired substitutions or masterful changes in tactics and formation.
Mourinho is what you call a proactive coach, rather than a reactive coach. He sees what is going to happen before it has happened, and thus makes a change to prevent that negative event from taking place.
Indeed I record a cup tie where he hauled off two of his players, one I think was Shaun Wright-Phillips, after just 30 minutes because the game was not going to plan.
Mourinho is perfect for the Italian game tactically. He has the Italian, win-at-all-costs mentality – the Machiavellian concept that “the end justifies the meansâ€.
However for all his genius – is Mourinho the right kind of character for AC Milan?
The Rossoneri are renowned as a club who pride themselves on their class, prestige, history, diplomacy and political correctness.There can be no doubting that Mourinho, unless he has a sudden character change, is none of these things.
Some would call the self-proclaimed ‘Special One’ arrogant – others would say he just speaks the truth.Whichever side you take, there can be no doubting that Mourinho has often caused controversy. He was handed a two-match touchline ban by UEFA after he accused referee Anders Frisk of talking with Barcelona Coach Frank Rijkaard during half-time of a big Champions League knockout tie in 2005.
This led UEFA referee’s chief, Volker Roth, to describe Mourinho as an “enemy of footballâ€. This did not deter the tactician who purportedly hid in a laundry basket in the Chelsea changing room so that he could speak to his players during the subsequent quarter-final tie with Bayern Munich, for which Mourinho was of course banned for.
Other storms include the Ashley Cole tapping-up incident as well as labelling Arsene Wenger as a “voyeur†following a dispute with the Arsenal boss.It is certain that a club with the esteemed stature of AC Milan will not tolerate such behaviour from Mourinho.
For all his wonderful charisma, and the unique press-conferences that delight many football fans, Mourinho will have to adhere to the Milan code of conduct. Whether this kind of marriage will last – I am not sure.
The second possible point of conflict comes over the team’s playing style. Mourinho favours his team to play tactically, physically and some would say defensively. Milan on the other hand are famed for their unique brand of beautiful and technical football. It is this that has led them to two Champions League victories, one final, one semi-final and one quarter-final in the past five years.
Whether or not the Rossoneri supporters would accept such a sudden shift from attack to defence is debatable.This may also pose a problem to players like Andrea Pirlo and Clarence Seedorf, who could struggle to flourish in a rigid tactical system.
Mourinho is very similar to Fabio Capello. Both are winners, however neither win with style.Capello won La Liga with Real Madrid last season, however he was immediately sacked because this was achieved by playing defensive and tactical football.Could the same thing happen to Mourinho at Milan?
If as expected, Mourinho does take over as Coach of Milan I have no doubts that he will do a brilliant job, and I could see him winning the Scudetto in his first season.However the doubts still remain over both his controversial nature and his ‘un-Milan’ style of football.
This is a decent article, and I think sums it all up. I don't know whether what he says about Clarence and Pirlo will come true though. If they do, I'd be pissed.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 11 2007, 07:00 AM)
I rate Carlo and Jose both highly.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
The main arguement I have against Carlo is this: Yes, he has a family atmosphere, but why is this? Is this part of the reason Gourcuff doesn't get a chance to play - Because he's too busy keeping the 'stars' happy by playing them all the time?
One thing I love about Jose is that he will not be told what to do - don't get me wrong, I love Sheva - but the fact that he hardly played showed me something about Jose. He does what he wants, he's not going to be a yes man. If Silvio tells him the CL is his priority, it won't make a difference as he'll go after each trophy the same - that's the way Jose is.
Gourcuff will get his chance under Carlo, as will Pato ... U can't use that against Carlo, u just can't. Cuz up till now, he has produced on of the best teams in Europe!
The Sheva incident ... Well, at Milan, the team used to play for 'Sheva' ... If u go back to old games, u'd see that the formation was played around Shevchenko. When he left, the team struggled to fit Oli into that same system, and Carlo shifted it to a 4-3-2-1. Today it is played around Kaka'.
At Mourinho's Chelsea, they didn't play around Shevchenko. They played the typical English game. Long balls to a target man (Drogba), and Shevchenko's attributes doesn't come out to the full extent from that sort of play. Hence, he was isolated and dubbed to be a 'flop' in the EPL.
Bring Shevchenko back to Milan and see how he'd flourish under Carlo again
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 12 2007, 08:46 AM)
Gourcuff will get his chance under Carlo, as will Pato ... U can't use that against Carlo, u just can't. Cuz up till now, he has produced on of the best teams in Europe!
I'm not sure really. He's not yet 30, y'know
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Dec 11 2007, 11:42 AM)
there's no way you can convince me [and other Mou fans] that he will repeat those kind of behaviours in Italian league too, is there?
No, I suppose there isn't. But on the other hand, there's no way the Mourinho fans will convince me he'll have a personality transplant and suddenly become a diplomat and a gentleman.
He was no angel at Porto when he was there, remember.
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Cool Ancelotti: Mourinho Speculation Spurs Me On
With speculation suggestiung that Jose Mourinho will be appointed as the ne manager of AC Milan next season, the current job-holder, Carlo Ancelotti, says with a shrug that it just motivates him more...
Speculation linking Jose Mourinho with AC Milan does not faze the Rossoneri's incumbent, Fabio Capello, who would be the victim of any Mourinho appointment at the San Siro.
Mourinho took himself out of contention for the vacant England manager's job this week against a background of reports that the former Chelsea boss has been lined up to replace Ancelotti at Milan at the end of the season.
That would be enough to make most managers feel insecure, but Ancelotti remains phlegmatic about it all.
"I read an article in the Italian papers about Mourinho," the Italian told reporters in Yokohama, Japan, ahead of Milan's Fifa Club World Cup semi-final against Japan's Urawa Reds on Thursday.
"Milan were supposed to have offered him my job. They may have done but I haven't been informed by the club that there has been a formal offer.
"If Mourinho does want the job it just gives me extra motivation. External talk like that doesn't give me any added pressure."
Although Milan have struggled domestically this season and currently lie 10th in Serie A, 19 points adrift of leaders and city rivals Internazionale, Ancelotti sees no reason to panic.
"I'm simply concentrating on my job," he said. "I'm not distracted by rumours about Mourinho or whatever. I hope to carry on tomorrow as I did today."
Milan defender Alessandro Nesta is fully behind his current boss.
"We've worked together for a long time and we trust the coach," said Nesta.
"We have won many titles. We won the Champions League - that's why we're in Japan. We hope he stays."
Ancelotti also confirmed that striker Brazilian striker Ronaldo would be rested against Urawa in order to give him longer to get fit for Sunday's final.
"We talked with the medical staff and Ronaldo himself and decided not to risk him tomorrow," said Ancelotti.
"Obviously we hope Ronaldo will be fit to play in the final. You have to be careful and listen to the advice of the doctors in cases like this."
Ronaldo has hardly trained since suffering a calf strain while warming up for a Champions League game in Lisbon last month.
Ancelotti also revealed that club captain Paolo Maldini, playing in his final season before retiring, will make a rare start on Thursday.
Assuming Milan beat Urawa, the Rossoneri are likely to face Argentina's Boca Juniors in the final.
The South American champions play Tunisia's Etoile Sahel in Tokyo on Wednesday.
With speculation suggestiung that Jose Mourinho will be appointed as the ne manager of AC Milan next season, the current job-holder, Carlo Ancelotti, says with a shrug that it just motivates him more...
Speculation linking Jose Mourinho with AC Milan does not faze the Rossoneri's incumbent, Fabio Capello, who would be the victim of any Mourinho appointment at the San Siro.
Mourinho took himself out of contention for the vacant England manager's job this week against a background of reports that the former Chelsea boss has been lined up to replace Ancelotti at Milan at the end of the season.
That would be enough to make most managers feel insecure, but Ancelotti remains phlegmatic about it all.
"I read an article in the Italian papers about Mourinho," the Italian told reporters in Yokohama, Japan, ahead of Milan's Fifa Club World Cup semi-final against Japan's Urawa Reds on Thursday.
"Milan were supposed to have offered him my job. They may have done but I haven't been informed by the club that there has been a formal offer.
"If Mourinho does want the job it just gives me extra motivation. External talk like that doesn't give me any added pressure."
Although Milan have struggled domestically this season and currently lie 10th in Serie A, 19 points adrift of leaders and city rivals Internazionale, Ancelotti sees no reason to panic.
"I'm simply concentrating on my job," he said. "I'm not distracted by rumours about Mourinho or whatever. I hope to carry on tomorrow as I did today."
Milan defender Alessandro Nesta is fully behind his current boss.
"We've worked together for a long time and we trust the coach," said Nesta.
"We have won many titles. We won the Champions League - that's why we're in Japan. We hope he stays."
Ancelotti also confirmed that striker Brazilian striker Ronaldo would be rested against Urawa in order to give him longer to get fit for Sunday's final.
"We talked with the medical staff and Ronaldo himself and decided not to risk him tomorrow," said Ancelotti.
"Obviously we hope Ronaldo will be fit to play in the final. You have to be careful and listen to the advice of the doctors in cases like this."
Ronaldo has hardly trained since suffering a calf strain while warming up for a Champions League game in Lisbon last month.
Ancelotti also revealed that club captain Paolo Maldini, playing in his final season before retiring, will make a rare start on Thursday.
Assuming Milan beat Urawa, the Rossoneri are likely to face Argentina's Boca Juniors in the final.
The South American champions play Tunisia's Etoile Sahel in Tokyo on Wednesday.
Goal.com
Forza Carlo Ancelotti
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 12 2007, 02:13 PM)
No, I suppose there isn't. But on the other hand, there's no way the Mourinho fans will convince me he'll have a personality transplant and suddenly become a diplomat and a gentleman. He was no angel at Porto when he was there, remember.
He was no angel at Porto when he was there, remember.I suppose there is one reason: Milan would sign Mourinho only if he ensured them he will have a change of attitude. he is a professional after all and I think to get to coach the world's most successful team, he would gladly accept to concentrate only on his football not off the pitch related issues. that's what I think tbh.
Thing is, even if Mourinho only comments on pitch-related stuff...well, look back on what he said in England. But I think that we'll continue to disagree on this one.
Interesting soundbyte in the Italian press today. Carletto was asked about the Mourinho speculation and said this:
Ancelotti ci ha anche scherzato su: "La notizia è uscita su alcuni giornali ma penso che più che la volontà del Milan di prendere Mouhrinho c'è la volontà di Mouhrinho di allenare il Milan. Direi che più che una richiesta del Milan è una richiesta dell'allenatore". link
[Ancelotti said: 'The notice (about Mourinho to Milan) was in a number of papers, but I think that it's more a case of Mourinho wanting to coach Milan than Milan wanting Mourinho as coach.']
Perhaps Carletto really is worried and is trying to brush it off. Then again, there might be a grain of truth in this.
Interesting soundbyte in the Italian press today. Carletto was asked about the Mourinho speculation and said this:
Ancelotti ci ha anche scherzato su: "La notizia è uscita su alcuni giornali ma penso che più che la volontà del Milan di prendere Mouhrinho c'è la volontà di Mouhrinho di allenare il Milan. Direi che più che una richiesta del Milan è una richiesta dell'allenatore". link
[Ancelotti said: 'The notice (about Mourinho to Milan) was in a number of papers, but I think that it's more a case of Mourinho wanting to coach Milan than Milan wanting Mourinho as coach.']
Perhaps Carletto really is worried and is trying to brush it off. Then again, there might be a grain of truth in this.
QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Dec 11 2007, 07:42 AM)
no way, jose carlo is the man...we'll now win on WCC and then all the roumours will die again
carlo is the man...we'll now win on WCC and then all the roumours will die again Rumours won't die after that. Obviously it's nice to win everything you enter, but if we don't win in? I really don't care.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 12 2007, 12:44 PM)
Rumours won't die after that. Obviously it's nice to win everything you enter, but if we don't win in? I really don't care.
I agree. I have no idea why the management place so much emphasis on this trophy, which is meaningless to pretty much everyone. Its a glorified friendly with a trophy handed out at the end, like the berlusconi cup. Nice to win that cup but i wasnt bothered either way
Well I'll tell you what, it would bother me a LOT if we were to lose to Boca Juniors, coz it would basically mean, that South American clubs play the best football in the world.
I think winning the CWC would add a lot more flavour to all the cups we've won. Sort of like an exclamation mark at the end of the sentence.f
Besides when you don't live from season to season and are looking to make a legacy, the words World Club Champions become very important, especially when 2 generations down the line, Ralph and Oscar's kids are looking around for a club to support, and find out that Milan were really the best club in the world, not one that was beaten by some Argentine blokes whose whole team could be traded to buy Kaka.
So why do I want to win it bad?? Coz just the thought of losing to any of the teams we are in competition with leaves a horrible taste in my mouth!!
I think winning the CWC would add a lot more flavour to all the cups we've won. Sort of like an exclamation mark at the end of the sentence.f
Besides when you don't live from season to season and are looking to make a legacy, the words World Club Champions become very important, especially when 2 generations down the line, Ralph and Oscar's kids are looking around for a club to support, and find out that Milan were really the best club in the world, not one that was beaten by some Argentine blokes whose whole team could be traded to buy Kaka.
So why do I want to win it bad?? Coz just the thought of losing to any of the teams we are in competition with leaves a horrible taste in my mouth!!
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2007, 07:23 PM)
Well I'll tell you what, it would bother me a LOT if we were to lose to Boca Juniors, coz it would basically mean, that South American clubs play the best football in the world.
Or maybe it would mean that European clubs don't give a sh about this competition. I believe South American clubs do feel they have something to prove to the rest of the world contrary to the European ones.
The only reason why I don't want us to lose is because I don't want us to lose...
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2007, 07:23 PM)
So why do I want to win it bad?? Coz just the thought of losing to any of the teams we are in competition with leaves a horrible taste in my mouth!!
What else does leave a horrible taste in your mouth captain? I'm talking booze of course...
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 12 2007, 10:00 PM)
Or maybe it would mean that European clubs don't give a sh about this competition.
Or because Milan is the most club, from Europe, that is familiar with this competition. Other clubs don't give a sh about it, because they play it (if they are lucky) every 2 centuries
While for Milan, it is a competition which comes around every 4 or 6 years Above all, our players seem to want it ... And if that is the case, then it certainly is an important trophy for our players (seeing as it is the ONLY trophy missing from their respective CVs)
p.s. or u could just not rate it .... That still wont change the fact that our players rate it very highly.
Mourinho just doesn't sit well with me i'm afraid...yes his record speaks for itself but the whole persona makes me uncomfortable i'm afraid. I'm used to coaches speaking with dignity and not making things about them self. But if we do appoint him as he would be our coach then i would support him.
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No, no, no...you can't sit on the fence on this one. Either your damn Mourinho and his minions to hell and beyond, or you go support Villa.
Heh heh, well that is true, I suppose, other than Carletto, Mourinho would be the best among the rest, since he has a good record in the CL as well.
Also the Italian press (and 10ster correct me if I'm wrong) is not as intrusive as the English media?? I mean Adriano's a tough nut for sure, but I don't remember their being too much made into a player's private affairs and all. Or maybe the Milan players are just decent folks. In that sense I'm sure Mourinho would have an easier time with the media.
However, he would have to win the respect of the Milan players. If Carletto leaves next season, he is basically walking into a vacuum. Since Paolo, Cafu,Sergio and Carlo are leaving, basically there is no real leaders in the team. (Team captain issue aside,I mean usually you pick one player to take into confidence and then convince him, the others follow). If Paolo had been there it would have been no contest. But now??
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
No, no, no...you can't sit on the fence on this one. Either your damn Mourinho and his minions to hell and beyond, or you go support Villa.
Heh heh, well that is true, I suppose, other than Carletto, Mourinho would be the best among the rest, since he has a good record in the CL as well.
Also the Italian press (and 10ster correct me if I'm wrong) is not as intrusive as the English media?? I mean Adriano's a tough nut for sure, but I don't remember their being too much made into a player's private affairs and all. Or maybe the Milan players are just decent folks. In that sense I'm sure Mourinho would have an easier time with the media.
However, he would have to win the respect of the Milan players. If Carletto leaves next season, he is basically walking into a vacuum. Since Paolo, Cafu,Sergio and Carlo are leaving, basically there is no real leaders in the team. (Team captain issue aside,I mean usually you pick one player to take into confidence and then convince him, the others follow). If Paolo had been there it would have been no contest. But now??
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 12 2007, 11:37 PM)
^^^^
No, no, no...you can't sit on the fence on this one. Either your damn Mourinho and his minions to hell and beyond, or you go support Villa.
Heh heh, well that is true, I suppose, other than Carletto, Mourinho would be the best among the rest, since he has a good record in the CL as well.
Also the Italian press (and 10ster correct me if I'm wrong) is not as intrusive as the English media?? I mean Adriano's a tough nut for sure, but I don't remember their being too much made into a player's private affairs and all. Or maybe the Milan players are just decent folks. In that sense I'm sure Mourinho would have an easier time with the media.
However, he would have to win the respect of the Milan players. If Carletto leaves next season, he is basically walking into a vacuum. Since Paolo, Cafu,Sergio and Carlo are leaving, basically there is no real leaders in the team. (Team captain issue aside,I mean usually you pick one player to take into confidence and then convince him, the others follow). If Paolo had been there it would have been no contest. But now??
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
No, no, no...you can't sit on the fence on this one. Either your damn Mourinho and his minions to hell and beyond, or you go support Villa.
Heh heh, well that is true, I suppose, other than Carletto, Mourinho would be the best among the rest, since he has a good record in the CL as well.
Also the Italian press (and 10ster correct me if I'm wrong) is not as intrusive as the English media?? I mean Adriano's a tough nut for sure, but I don't remember their being too much made into a player's private affairs and all. Or maybe the Milan players are just decent folks. In that sense I'm sure Mourinho would have an easier time with the media.
However, he would have to win the respect of the Milan players. If Carletto leaves next season, he is basically walking into a vacuum. Since Paolo, Cafu,Sergio and Carlo are leaving, basically there is no real leaders in the team. (Team captain issue aside,I mean usually you pick one player to take into confidence and then convince him, the others follow). If Paolo had been there it would have been no contest. But now??
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
who's to that would be a bad thing, it would great to watch
no but seriously he could put seedorf in his place and if he doesnt like it then it's his loss.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 13 2007, 05:37 AM)
However, he would have to win the respect of the Milan players. If Carletto leaves next season, he is basically walking into a vacuum. Since Paolo, Cafu,Sergio and Carlo are leaving, basically there is no real leaders in the team. (Team captain issue aside,I mean usually you pick one player to take into confidence and then convince him, the others follow). If Paolo had been there it would have been no contest. But now??
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
Seedorf, Ambro and Rino will be the 'captains' of the team. Seedorf and Jose?? I'm already shaking!!! I mean if Clarence could have a fight with his 'favourite manager' Carletto, just imagine!!
If he did come over, I'd give him 3 months, if after that, we were playing like Chelsea, I don't care if we have an all-win record, I'll be rather disappointed.
C'mon, Jack. You mean a coach of Jose's stature would hav a problem 'selectin' a captain, or dealing with squad crisis?
It was a vacuum he met at Chelsea, with an array of different internationals from Africa, south america, europe etc. These he was able to knit into a family and earn so much respect from them that when he was leaving it almost led to a 'mutiny'. Name me another coach leaving a big club that had the players and fans in public protestations? I think the perceived "mourinho's negative personality, rigidity, etc etc" had been exergerated way way tto much, no thanks to the likes of Barca fans and the Englich press.
QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 13 2007, 04:31 PM)
C'mon, Jack. You mean a coach of Jose's stature would hav a problem 'selectin' a captain, or dealing with squad crisis? It was a vacuum he met at Chelsea, with an array of different internationals from Africa, south america, europe etc. These he was able to knit into a family and earn so much respect from them that when he was leaving it almost led to a 'mutiny'. Name me another coach leaving a big club that had the players and fans in public protestations? I think the perceived "mourinho's negative personality, rigidity, etc etc" had been exergerated way way tto much, no thanks to the likes of Barca fans and the Englich press.
It was a vacuum he met at Chelsea, with an array of different internationals from Africa, south america, europe etc. These he was able to knit into a family and earn so much respect from them that when he was leaving it almost led to a 'mutiny'. Name me another coach leaving a big club that had the players and fans in public protestations? I think the perceived "mourinho's negative personality, rigidity, etc etc" had been exergerated way way tto much, no thanks to the likes of Barca fans and the Englich press. U wanted the names of a couple of coaches, that when they left a BIG club had the players and fans in public protest (by the way Chelsea is not a BIG club, Aston Villa is a BIGGER club than Chelsea
) ... The names are Capello (when he left Milan), Sacchi (when he left Milan), Lippi (when he left Juve) ... oh, and Mourinho gave the Chelsea fans something they have never felt before, winning a title (any title) You see, it is not us that you have to convince to bring Mourinho in, it's Silvio and Galliani. And from the way they have managed the club, a person of Mourinho's attitude is exactly the opposite of what they usual bring in to coach the club.
It's not that I don't rate Mourinho, not at all his history speaks for itself
... But if we were gonna judge by that, there are so many other coaches available that can coach Milan and probably keep it at the same level, off the top of my head M. Lippi. He has 6x the experience of Mourinho, he is an expert in knock-out competitions and one of the best league tacticians (who is exteremly experienced in Serie A) ... And a coach like Lippi would keep the team as classy as can be, whilst Mourinho would turn this beautiful team into a machine that plays too defensively for my taste. Sure he might win titles, but the games week-in - week-out would be so boring ... I wouldn't even consider leaving work early to watch an afternoon match p.s. Again I rate him very highly, but he wont coach at Milan. This I am convinced 100% about, he lacks that certain something that most Milan coaches had .. mmm knowing where his place is in the club
Well, we all have our opinions in this matter. For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.
For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.
QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 14 2007, 12:56 PM)
Well, we all have our opinions in this matter. For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.
For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.Carlo defensive ?! I don't think so ... His type of football is one of the bet in Europe. Nowadays, because we lack an SS, Milan play with two DMs. But even with the X-tree, Milan plays one of the best tactical games there is. And I appreciate these kind of things.
I mean, a team playing with 3 #10s in Pirlo, Seedorf, and Kaka' ... Then you have the ultimate possession sessions that happen in nearly every game. I think, you would ONLY have to understand his tactics to enjoy them.
I mean there is Carlo Ancelotti, and for everyone else there is Arsene Wenger .. if u know what I mean
Ofcourse if u are so shallow to look at the line up and say 3 DMs .. Well that looks defensive for me ... Well who can blame u. But If u'v known that this was the setup that won us the 03 CL. And have followed Carlo in his Parma days, when his tactics where at that point one of the best in italy, then u'd know what I'm talkin about.
I mean, Carlo's game was always about pushing forward and attacking. Milan never sit back in their own half, it is always the opposition that play that way. Milan are what you'd call a dynamic side. Once you understand the team's movements, you'd appreciate Carlo and his tactics. After all, who was Pirlo before Carlo
Who brought Kaka' to such heights. oh well, if u cant see the difference between carlo and Mourinho. Then, I guess u wont understand what my point was top start with
QUOTE (kdman @ Dec 14 2007, 01:26 PM)
Well, we all have our opinions in this matter. For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.
For all of this, it might end up as one of those rumours and he might not come. Only Galliani and Berlu can be certain regarding this. But don't be too sure about not bothering to watch Milan if he takes over If one can stomach Ancelotti, why not Jose. Carlo can be/is as defensive and boring as any. I always maintain the "Mourinho is defensive" excuse is taken way too far, it's beginning to sound like a broken record.Playing with a lone striker and three defensive midfielders [Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini (and sometimes Brocchi instead of 'Seedorf the striker!')] speaks a lot for itself
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Jose Mourinho is searching for a new high-profile club to coach, but it seems that reports linking him with AC Milan have been misconstrued somewhat...
A small war of words seems to be taking place between Mourinho and Carlo Ancelotti, after the latter had commented on the speculation that the Portuguese coach could be on his way to Milan to replace him.
Ancelotti spoke a few days ago about the rumours that Mourinho was contacted by Milan, stating instead that it was Mourinho's desire to go to the Rossoneri and not the other way around.
However, Mourinho denied this on his official website, declaring that he never offered himself to Milan, but on the other hand it was the Italian club who contacted him.
"I never contacted - directly or indirectly - the clubs. If anything, it is the other way round," he hinted.
In the meantime Milan are focusing on the Club World Cup final on Sunday at 11.30am (CET), with any eventual contract negotiations with either Ancelotti or Mourinho postponed for a future date, depending on how the season evolves
A small war of words seems to be taking place between Mourinho and Carlo Ancelotti, after the latter had commented on the speculation that the Portuguese coach could be on his way to Milan to replace him.
Ancelotti spoke a few days ago about the rumours that Mourinho was contacted by Milan, stating instead that it was Mourinho's desire to go to the Rossoneri and not the other way around.
However, Mourinho denied this on his official website, declaring that he never offered himself to Milan, but on the other hand it was the Italian club who contacted him.
"I never contacted - directly or indirectly - the clubs. If anything, it is the other way round," he hinted.
In the meantime Milan are focusing on the Club World Cup final on Sunday at 11.30am (CET), with any eventual contract negotiations with either Ancelotti or Mourinho postponed for a future date, depending on how the season evolves
Mourinho has an official website!?? 
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 14 2007, 02:43 PM)
Mourinho has an official website!??
Nop. Just the agency of his agent.
There was a reaction after Ancelotti comments on Mourinho, where José reminded who started the the talks and rumours @Ancelotti-Milan-Mourinho:
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15 of October 2007
Milan's Carlo Ancelotti volunteered himself to that group: "Even if I'm careful, Mourinho's a floating mine," he said
Milan's Carlo Ancelotti volunteered himself to that group: "Even if I'm careful, Mourinho's a floating mine," he said
I think everybody remembers that.
And obviously said what Jack posted before too.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 14 2007, 11:11 AM)
Carlo defensive ?! I don't think so ...
oh well, if u cant see the difference between carlo and Mourinho. Then, I guess u wont understand what my point was top start with
oh well, if u cant see the difference between carlo and Mourinho. Then, I guess u wont understand what my point was top start with
Conversly if you don't think CARLO is defensive, nothing I can also do about it. I can point out countless reasons, both in his formations and subs to butress my view. But what's the point? We will continue to disagree on it. I would continue to maintain my view on it. You hold yours. Fair.
When we're losing and carlo brings on either a def or DM that says to me that he is defensive. And playing two DM's against the 'lesser' sides of the Serie A also proves negativity IMO.
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