[han2503]

Let's keep all match discussions here starting with the Fiorentina game if there is anyone watching. I'll update the title of the thread accordingly

[Nova]

I'm watching the game because I have literally nothing else to do.
I don't know what to say, I just hate this Milan squad, what a bunch of untalented , not worthy of wearing the shirt type of players ...

Horrible football. 0 opportunities at half time ! Zero !! Nothing !

This post has been edited by Nova: Dec 30 2017, 01:43 PM

[Jack Sparrow]

First time this season we've come from behind to get any points. All to play for in the next 5 months. I hope we do something creditable with what's left of the season.

[Rossoneri7]

First time this season we've come from behind to get any points. All to play for in the next 5 months. I hope we do something creditable with what's left of the season.

I believe it's tight, we have the Coppa and UEL to play for, but we both know this team is lacking. Not ready if you will.

[CrazyMilanFan]

We won 1-0 today. Played okay overall but couldn't close the game.

[Jack Sparrow]

We won 1-0 today. Played okay overall but couldn't close the game.

True. We seem to dominate possession but can't seem to get any incision whatsoever. I'm not sure if this is a coaching problem or a player problem. Maybe a combination of both.

[han2503]

True. We seem to dominate possession but can't seem to get any incision whatsoever. I'm not sure if this is a coaching problem or a player problem. Maybe a combination of both.

A bit late but I'd like to point out that Hakan really showed some excellent vision in the last game and when he came on again Fiorentina

At least he gives us a bit more dynamism then the head down, run straight Borini does.

I think w have a lot of players who are better than what we're currently seeing now. Bona hasn't been himself this season, and in all honesty, neither has Suso. The striker issue is the biggest for me. And since none of them can seem to get into a scoring groove this has to be blamed a bit on the supporting cast as well since as you so correctly observed, we haven't been incisive at all.

Actually I think the game against Inter was one of our best this season in terms of creating chances

[CrazyMilanFan]

Got three points it was messy but importantly we somehow managed to win

[han2503]

Got three points it was messy but importantly we somehow managed to win

I'm actually seeing gradual improvement from the team, if nothing else there's definitely a greater hunger from the players.

We have Lazio this weekend so I'm actually expecting a loss.

I really would like to know what the thinking has been during this winter mercato where our management actively chose not to participate in it. Maybe they feel like the season is lost so they should cut their losses and re-evaluate in the summer. But we have some glaring holes in the squad, namely on the left wing, with Deulofeu being offered to us on a plate, it's just baffling me as to why we wouldn't jump on such a simple and easy solution like that

[Rossoneri7]

Well there is the Elliott loan than needs to be settled first then there is UEFA's scrutiny over the Chinese's plans ... So there could be restrictions, nothing to baffle you about han, just that is what it is

[William405]

Well there is the Elliott loan than needs to be settled first then there is UEFA's scrutiny over the Chinese's plans ... So there could be restrictions, nothing to baffle you about han, just that is what it is

Yeah I think it's that.

[X-Offender]

Donnarumma; Calabria, Bonucci, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kessie, Biglia, Bonaventura; Suso, Cutrone, Calhanoglu.

Two questions: 1) Why on earth Antonelli and not Abate with Calabria on the left? 2) What happened to Andre Silva? Looks like Rino has completely forgotten that he exists.

Anyway, I expect a win today, or at least a draw. Lazio are in top form but this game is do or die. If we lose again then that little bit of confidence we've gained in the past two few weeks will be completely shattered.

[William405]

Donnarumma; Calabria, Bonucci, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kessie, Biglia, Bonaventura; Suso, Cutrone, Calhanoglu.

Two questions: 1) Why on earth Antonelli and not Abate with Calabria on the left? 2) What happened to Andre Silva? Looks like Rino has completely forgotten that he exists.

Anyway, I expect a win today, or at least a draw. Lazio are in top form but this game is do or die. If we lose again then that little bit of confidence we've gained in the past two few weeks will be completely shattered.

Agreed! Hope we win! Forza Milan

[han2503]

Well there is the Elliott loan than needs to be settled first then there is UEFA's scrutiny over the Chinese's plans ... So there could be restrictions, nothing to baffle you about han, just that is what it is

Well there were cheap options or even loan options like Deulo who could have been very helpful to our cause without causing any financial issues.

Donnarumma; Calabria, Bonucci, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kessie, Biglia, Bonaventura; Suso, Cutrone, Calhanoglu.

Two questions: 1) Why on earth Antonelli and not Abate with Calabria on the left? 2) What happened to Andre Silva? Looks like Rino has completely forgotten that he exists.

Anyway, I expect a win today, or at least a draw. Lazio are in top form but this game is do or die. If we lose again then that little bit of confidence we've gained in the past two few weeks will be completely shattered.

Meh, I don't expect a win tbh. But with the way Inter are spiralling, I don't see this as do or die, we have time to regain ground imo so this season won't be a complete lost cause

Agreed about Andre Silva, it feels like neither coach knows how to utilise him properly, he's a quintessential SS. I feel like both Rino and Montella have been more comfortable with using someone like Kalinic or Cutrone who stay far more central and don't drift around like Silva tends to do a lot

[CrazyMilanFan]

We are having half chances

[han2503]

We are having half chances

Agreed, but once again, we're too rushed and it's generally messy

[CrazyMilanFan]

Perfect free kick and goal from curtone

[han2503]

CUTRONEE

[William405]

Cutroneeeee

[han2503]

What a free-kick from Hakan though.

He's been really impressing me ever since he came on against Fiorentina. Glad to see another player finally settling in

[CrazyMilanFan]

What the hell.... Fifa goal

[han2503]

What the hell.... Fifa goal

Yeah, too easy

[X-Offender]

Class A defending from Antonelli there.

[han2503]

Class A defending from Antonelli there.

Yep

[CrazyMilanFan]

Off the bar for lazio..

[CrazyMilanFan]

What a goal

[CrazyMilanFan]

Great play

[han2503]

BONAAAAAAAAA

[han2503]

This is probably the best we've played in a while aside from the single defensive lapse

[han2503]

Calabria has also been improving in leaps and bounds imo

[William405]

Really nice cross and Bonaa.. Nice header

[CrazyMilanFan]

Good half overall. Our midfield is clicking well

[han2503]

Good half overall. Our midfield is clicking well

Agreed. Finally Kessie and Biglia are showing what they're capable of after terrible starts by both

[William405]

We have a good team, we have a good team! We just need that one protagonist..

[han2503]

We have a good team, we have a good team! We just need that one protagonist..

I feel like Silva could be that guy for us.

But we need a proper LW who'll be able to really make our attack tick

Not to mention an alternative to Bona, someone like Milinkovic-Savic would transform our midfield imo because Bona has been very patchy this season

[Fillipo Simone]

Suso looks more and more out of steam but overall a solid performance. If only our defense could get better.

[William405]

Anyone has a stream?

[CrazyMilanFan]

Bonucci possibly will come off. He was playing well imo

[CrazyMilanFan]

very important win especially for our confidence

[CrazyMilanFan]

Calabria was flawless today

[han2503]

Great game, we have Lazio again on Wednesday (I think) in the Coppa. Let's see if we can pull a double on them

[Fillipo Simone]

Well, they lack Immobile, which makes them less dangerous.

[William405]

Well, they lack Immobile, which makes them less dangerous.

Will they have him back on Wednesday? 😄

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't know...

[Jack Sparrow]

They rested Immobile so he could be fit on Wednesday I think We pretty much played a full strength squad. I think it will be a tough one on Wednesday. Glad for this win though. If we can at least end up in the same place as last season, while making steady progress in Coppa and UEL, it would still be an improvement.

We're now in 7th place and breathing down Sampdoria's neck. Our midfield is steadily improving as well.

[Rossoneri7]

They rested Immobile so he could be fit on Wednesday I think We pretty much played a full strength squad. I think it will be a tough one on Wednesday. Glad for this win though. If we can at least end up in the same place as last season, while making steady progress in Coppa and UEL, it would still be an improvement.

We're now in 7th place and breathing down Sampdoria's neck. Our midfield is steadily improving as well.

Think Ringo is doing the trick? I sure am liking the cohesion that is being buit. Kinda reminds me of the Carlo days, a sense of belonging to the shirt. Not trying to be soft and all, but Ringo is impressing me.

Also would a coppa win lead to qualifying for CL or is it only through EL?

[CrazyMilanFan]

Coppa win is EL qualification and EL win would be UCL i think

[Jack Sparrow]

Think Ringo is doing the trick? I sure am liking the cohesion that is being buit. Kinda reminds me of the Carlo days, a sense of belonging to the shirt. Not trying to be soft and all, but Ringo is impressing me.

Also would a coppa win lead to qualifying for CL or is it only through EL?

He's got the team running more and giving more. And I think they're kind of responding. It's probably also the pressure of being branded losers. Let's be honest all of them have under-performed.

What I love is how up front and straight he is. He seems like a truly great guy. And I think when he's giving his 200% every day in training the players are maybe even shamed into giving the same. He's a great role model that way.

Is he a tactical genius? No maybe not. But let's be honest, if this team would just play at their usual capability we'd be in Europe. We were failing to do even that.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, mentality and attitude is what Gattuso worked on. But basically the same problems with our team remain:

- no true leader who can provide stability
- defensive problems
- too many failed players and mentally weak players
- lack of balance in our team/assessment of certain players questionable

And this is mostly not Rino's problem. We simply shouldn't have had such a season. I mean 17/18 we've played some of the worst football ever, even worse then the Inzaghi season. So the players mostly changed, but the problems remained.

[han2503]

Think Ringo is doing the trick? I sure am liking the cohesion that is being buit. Kinda reminds me of the Carlo days, a sense of belonging to the shirt. Not trying to be soft and all, but Ringo is impressing me.

Also would a coppa win lead to qualifying for CL or is it only through EL?

I think for now he is, but I still maintain that it would be a mistake to go ahead with him long-term if he manages to pull off a good comeback to our season. Especially if someone like Conte becomes available

Coppa win is EL qualification and EL win would be UCL i think

Yep. And with the teams that have been dumped into the EL through the CL, I can't see the latter happening tbh. While Lazio are a very difficult task in the Coppa

Yes, mentality and attitude is what Gattuso worked on. But basically the same problems with our team remain:

- no true leader who can provide stability
- defensive problems
- too many failed players and mentally weak players
- lack of balance in our team/assessment of certain players questionable

And this is mostly not Rino's problem. We simply shouldn't have had such a season. I mean 17/18 we've played some of the worst football ever, even worse then the Inzaghi season. So the players mostly changed, but the problems remained.

The first part of the season was to put it simply, wasted by Montella and his over-experimenting and rotation. I don't think we've really seen what any of the new guys are really capable of tbh as we're only just now seeing glimmers from guys like Kessi and Hakan, heck, even Bonucci and Biglia who all of us thought were sure things going into the season have struggled and are only just now finally managing to assert their authority within this side.

[Jack Sparrow]

I think Conte will be an interesting addition, but I can't in all honesty claim his style is for me. He can be very driven on his point and forceful - something that resulted in Clarence being fired.

If Rino, won a trophy this season and placed us back in Europa League places, would you give him a year longer?

For a new coach- I guess it will be a toss-up between Carlo and Conte. I do wonder if Carlo is sort of 'past expiry' as a coach and if his tactics will hold, but I don't know. I haven't seen his teams play recently.

[Fillipo Simone]

I respect Rino and would love to see him take charge. But in all honesty this team needs a real coach. Look at how Inter blossomed under Spalletti (while at the same time getting the specific Spalletti-looser touch). We really need a seasoned and experienced man to take charge - something Milan hasn't had in ages. Leonardo, Allegri (who turned out fine but limited), Seedorf, Inzaghi, Brocchi, Mihajlović, Montella - it's enough. Bring in someone who has actually won something and who has the know-how.

[X-Offender]

I respect Rino and would love to see him take charge. But in all honesty this team needs a real coach. Look at how Inter blossomed under Spalletti (while at the same time getting the specific Spalletti-looser touch). We really need a seasoned and experienced man to take charge - something Milan hasn't had in ages. Leonardo, Allegri (who turned out fine but limited), Seedorf, Inzaghi, Brocchi, Mihajlović, Montella - it's enough. Bring in someone who has actually won something and who has the know-how.

When you think about it, good coaches nowadays are very hard to come by. Except for Ancelotti, I just don't see anyone else with pedigree that would accept a job with us. Maybe Klopp, depending on how his season with Liverpool turns out in the end.

Don't think the likes of Simeone, Mourinho, Guardiola, Zidane etc. will ever sign for us. And guys like Sarri and Pochettino would still be shots in the dark.

[Fillipo Simone]

Agreed.

Our main targets should be Ancelotti and Conte. If we don't succeed in securing one of them we're already in trouble.

But the I would be willing to give a chance to coaches like Prandelli, Rijkaard (good God how low he fell), Ranieri, Mancini, Donadoni, etc.

[X-Offender]

Agreed.

Our main targets should be Ancelotti and Conte. If we don't succeed in securing one of them we're already in trouble.

But the I would be willing to give a chance to coaches like Prandelli, Rijkaard (good God how low he fell), Ranieri, Mancini, Donadoni, etc.

Oh yeah, forgot about Conte. He would be awesome.

The other names you mentioned, I would pass in a heartbeat. Prandelli and Mancini? Nah. Rijkaard? He's been AWOL for the past ten years. Ranieri and Donadoni would be shots in the dark. I'd much prefer Sarri instead.

[Fillipo Simone]

But I'm speaking of realistic targets. Why would Sarri ever ditch Napoli for us?

[X-Offender]

But I'm speaking of realistic targets. Why would Sarri ever ditch Napoli for us?

More money? Boh.

But the names you mentioned aren't much different than the Mihajlovic's and Montella's we've had.

[Fillipo Simone]

I think they are. Man, Mancini won a bunch of league titles with various teams and also had a good spell at Lazio. Prandelli had a few successful seasons with Parma and Fiorentina finishing in the top 5 teams. Rijkaard won the CL, La Liga and several other trophies. Only Don stands out perhaps, but how the hell can these results be compared with Montella with 1 supercup and Mihajlović with zero cups won??

[X-Offender]

I think they are. Man, Mancini won a bunch of league titles with various teams and also had a good spell at Lazio. Prandelli had a few successful seasons with Parma and Fiorentina finishing in the top 5 teams. Rijkaard won the CL, La Liga and several other trophies. Only Don stands out perhaps, but how the hell can these results be compared with Montella with 1 supercup and Mihajlović with zero cups won??

Yeah, like, a decade ago.

Mancini is terrible, his second spell at Inter proved that. But I never liked him even in his heyday.

Prandelli hasn't coached a club successfully since the late 00s, and failed with Italy in 2014.

Rijkaard, as I said, has been AWOL for a decade.

Donadoni has been coaching low-table clubs his entire career.

On paper the first three might be more qualified than Mihajlovic and Montella, but I don't think they are any better solutions.

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't know man. Your only argument is that they haven't achieved much in recent years. That's something I guess, but not enough to say they're Montella or Mihajlović level IMO.

[han2503]

I respect Rino and would love to see him take charge. But in all honesty this team needs a real coach. Look at how Inter blossomed under Spalletti (while at the same time getting the specific Spalletti-looser touch). We really need a seasoned and experienced man to take charge - something Milan hasn't had in ages. Leonardo, Allegri (who turned out fine but limited), Seedorf, Inzaghi, Brocchi, Mihajlović, Montella - it's enough. Bring in someone who has actually won something and who has the know-how.

Agreed, it's what I've been saying for a while now. We have a decent bunch of players imo, the team is definitely the best we've had in a while in terms of quality. The problem is we haven't had a great coach since the Carlo days. We need someone who will be able to build a team with an identity

For me Conte would be my number 1 ahead of even Carlo.

If they're both unachievable I'd look at guys like Prandelli, Hiddink or maybe even Mancini

Agreed.

Our main targets should be Ancelotti and Conte. If we don't succeed in securing one of them we're already in trouble.

But the I would be willing to give a chance to coaches like Prandelli, Rijkaard (good God how low he fell), Ranieri, Mancini, Donadoni, etc.

Prandelli would be first pick for me in terms of that tier of coaches, he's not spectacular but he's a good tactician imo, I really liked what he did with Italy when he was coach

Yeah, like, a decade ago.

Mancini is terrible, his second spell at Inter proved that. But I never liked him even in his heyday.

Prandelli hasn't coached a club successfully since the late 00s, and failed with Italy in 2014.

Rijkaard, as I said, has been AWOL for a decade.

Donadoni has been coaching low-table clubs his entire career.

On paper the first three might be more qualified than Mihajlovic and Montella, but I don't think they are any better solutions.

What's Hiddink doing these days? I've always really liked how he set his teams up, I remember playing his PSV side back in the day and they were a very tough team to play against

[Fillipo Simone]

I think Hiddink is too old. He's 71 and never played/coached in Serie A.

[William405]

"Milan are not Brad Pritt, they are as ugly as me and my beard"
Gattuso

I love it hahaha!

If by any chance someone has a stream, please put up the link. ^^

[X-Offender]

Donnarumma; Abate, Bonucci, Romagnoli, Calabria; Kessie, Biglia, Bonaventura; Suso, Silva, Calhanoglu.

Save for Conti and Rodriguez who are injured, I think this is the first time we've played all our best signings altogether.

[han2503]

What a goal from Suso

[milanbuf88]

What a goal by Suso!!!

[X-Offender]

I can't seem to find a decent stream for this one.

[han2503]

That red killed us. Calabria really showed his inexperience there, such a needless and stupid foul to give away when already on a yellow

[Fillipo Simone]

Another pathetic performance overall.

Sure, Gattuso seems to be confident, honest and he brings out the best (at least partially) from our (limited) players. But this is where his inexperience becomes a problem. Unlike Montella he's able to pump up the team (something Montella also knew how to do in season 1) and if everything goes according to plan we're a solid team. But the moment trouble occur we're lost. We lack the kind of mechanisms that prevent us from going AWOL after taking an early lead. This mentality problem can only be solved by modern forward thinking football or an experienced coach.

The trouble is, I think Rino has (just like Brocchi and Pippo) learned from Carletto's trick book and I think this is were Ancelotti also had the most troubles: keeping the team spirit/mentality balanced and intact. But back then we had monsters like Ringo and true leaders like Paolo on the pitch to make this work.

Nowadays it's a simple routine. Milan start good, score, then become static and lazy and very soon completely ineffective. We invite the opposition to start pressuring and hand them a goal or two.

Sidenotes:
- we lack true quality in attack
- Silva is IMO not cut for the task; he's perhaps the biggest failure of our camaign
- we lack ideas in midfield

[Fillipo Simone]

That red killed us. Calabria really showed his inexperience there, such a needless and stupid foul to give away when already on a yellow

Stupid - yes.
Made things hard - yes.

But what killed us was our approach and mentality.

[han2503]

Stupid - yes.
Made things hard - yes.

But what killed us was our approach and mentality.

Sure we had already taken the foot off the gas before then, but going down a man when you're already struggling a bit is always going to be a killer blow

[Rossoneri7]

Think we watched different games, IMHO Milan played rather well. The result didnt arrive, rather a bore draw, but that doesnt and shouldnt take away from the good performance the team had on display.

Calabria is young and these things happened to Nesta and Maldini. Silva is a talented young lad who needs Serie A experience, ie time. Otherwise the team as a whole is cementing a core and is showing signs of life in our beloved Milan.

How many games has Gattuso overseen since taking over? The guy is on a positive run, despite all the odds.

[Fillipo Simone]

Man I admire your positive viewpoint. But mostly I can't agree.

Yes, Calabria made a stupid double yellow. On that we agree, he'll learn.

Gattuso has a solid record so far (6W, 4D, 3L) but not that he hasn't played any bigger team bar Lazio and that his goal difference is a mere +1 (15 goals in 13 matches is very low and perhaps our biggest problem).

I disagree on Silva. You can virtually say to anyone that he's "talented". But he's shown no true chemistry and value IMO; he lacks too much qualities/experience to became useful for us; just look at Cutrone and compare.

What did we exactly do good in this game? Apart from giving up on attacking and playing as a dominant team for most of the game?

[Rossoneri7]

Man I admire your positive viewpoint. But mostly I can't agree.

Yes, Calabria made a stupid double yellow. On that we agree, he'll learn.

Gattuso has a solid record so far (6W, 4D, 3L) but not that he hasn't played any bigger team bar Lazio and that his goal difference is a mere +1 (15 goals in 13 matches is very low and perhaps our biggest problem).

I disagree on Silva. You can virtually say to anyone that he's "talented". But he's shown no true chemistry and value IMO; he lacks too much qualities/experience to became useful for us; just look at Cutrone and compare.

What did we exactly do good in this game? Apart from giving up on attacking and playing as a dominant team for most of the game?

It's okay not to agree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

On Gattuso mind you I was skeptical at first but he has shocked me! I mean here comes a warrior of a player who tries his trade as coach at tier 4 teams and doesn't do well. He comes to Milan - at the worst of timings - and manages to instill a sense of stability, establish a core for this brand new team, is doing much better than Montella.

Silva is marginal for me tbh, he needs Serie A experience. Maybe they should consider loaning him out.

Well, during Montella's days the team was a bunch of XI trying to get 3points. Today it was a team of 1 trying to get 3points. Sure it was clumsy at times like with the 2nd yellow card, but all in all I see a team alive, I can recognize a core within the team. That for me is something crucial. We are not debating a team consisting of Sheva, Seedorf, Pirlo and the likes those players on the field I would agree with you 100%. But with the team we have today, I would applaud this draw and wait for the team to form a stronger understanding. Maybe they reach the EL final. Maybe they win it.

There is always a chance, especially when you have a one team unit.

[han2503]

One thing on Silva. The talent is very obviously there, he just hasn't adjusted to the team, which considering his very limited time on the pitch this season is understandable.

Once again, we're going to risk going down the route of overlooking a very bviously talented player because we couldn't afford to have some patience. Some players don't instantly click, Silva is obviously having a hard time, but giving up on him would be a major mistake, of Aubameyang level imo.

Kalinic is a far more experienced attacker not to mention having been in the league for a few years now and even he is finding it difficult to fit into this team because we simply haven't been able to really make that midfield and attack combine with each other very well. Our strikers just tend to look very isolated in general, Cutrone also struggles with this, it's not like he's banged in 20 goals either. My point here isn't to place blame on any single attacker, it's just to say that the team needs to be better in the attacking phase in general, and this starts with the midfield

[X-Offender]

Disappointing result. Had we won this, we might have started aiming at that 4th spot. Guess it was just a pipe dream.

We're simply too limited. Kessie and Suso are the real talent, everyone else is just acting as filler material. Bonaventura hasn't been solid in quite a while. Biglia has been a massive disappointment. Hakan doesn't really add much given the importance of his role, and Silva is quite frankly a ghost. Same could be said for Kalinic.

I mean, we will probably continue like this till the end of the season, maybe snatch that 6th spot and have a shot at the EL, but the season is a huge failure and we need to start planning for next season already.

[han2503]

Cutrone with the early goal, such an instinct this kid has

[Fillipo Simone]

Typicall Milan under Rino. Starting good, scoring early, then losing initiative and creating problems. Now waiting for a red or some other brainfart.

[han2503]

Typicall Milan under Rino. Starting good, scoring early, then losing initiative and creating problems. Now waiting for a red or some other brainfart.

Yeah, the game feels eerily similar to last week's

[han2503]

It's so depressing to see Borini warming up, we really have a terrible lack of depth in most areas.

[William405]

Yeah, the game feels eerily similar to last week's

Totally agreed.

[William405]

It's so depressing to see Borini warming up, we really have a terrible lack of depth in most areas.

Yeah..also in our starting line-up, we still lack something.

[William405]

Cutrone again! I see so much of Pippo in him!

[han2503]

Yeah..also in our starting line-up, we still lack something.

Definitely. We lack a properly creative mid and a lethal winger that's for sure.

[Fillipo Simone]

Biglia and Kessie are a terrible duo to start with. But what we really lack is extra class. We need 2-3 world class players.

[William405]

Bigliaaa!!!

[William405]

Definitely. We lack a properly creative mid and a lethal winger that's for sure.

We depend too much on Suso imo.

[William405]

Biglia and Kessie are a terrible duo to start with. But what we really lack is extra class. We need 2-3 world class players.

We need class I agree. But, we need it in midfield and attack. Surely, not in defense.

This post has been edited by William405: Feb 10 2018, 04:31 PM

[William405]

Does anyone think a Curtrone/Silva partnership could work?

[amancik]

Our next three matches are against Sampdoria, Roma and Inter.

[William405]

Our next three matches are against Sampdoria, Roma and Inter.

We have to win them all!

[milanbuf88]

Well this result will help the goal differential! Ugly at times but I’ll take an ugly 4-0 any day. Important three points. Nice to see Cutrone in the right places and Borini grabbing a goal.

[X-Offender]

Reading these last comments seems like we're losing to SPAL.

[Fillipo Simone]

Reading these last comments seems like we're losing to SPAL.

We might have won but we really play ugly and unstable football. We scored instantly and then gave a semi-amateur team like SPAL the space to attack. Milan IMO has simply too many problems to deal with (simultaneously) to rely on Gattuso. Don't get me wrong, I really adore Rino but I don't think he is what we need now.

[han2503]

We might have won but we really play ugly and unstable football. We scored instantly and then gave a semi-amateur team like SPAL the space to attack. Milan IMO has simply too many problems to deal with (simultaneously) to rely on Gattuso. Don't get me wrong, I really adore Rino but I don't think he is what we need now.

Rino aside (because I feel like we've exhausted this topic to ne end), the problem is very obviously the too relaxed mentality of our players. An experienced coach would definitely help in that regard, but one has to assess deeper than that, this has plagued us for years now, we rarely ever go in for the kill. You would think that someone like Rino with his fiery spirit would at least beat it a bit out of the players but we see this inability to kill games off repeatedly. Last week against Udine we shouldn't have let it get that far. Calabria getting the second yellow was a direct result of the continuous invitation tour opposition to attack us when we should have been able to control the game better.

Yesterday as well, the score is flattering no doubt, and yes, it is ugly football. We continuously see the same movements and build up, which has become so predictable it's painful to watch. The only games I've seen any sort of free-flowing play this season were the games against Inter and Lazio. So I feel like we can achieve that but I don't understand why it cannot be done on a consistent basis and why the players so easily fall back to the flat and slow game which we have become so accustomed to since the Allegri years

[Rossoneri7]

Good showing last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Good showing last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Nah we played like crap. The attack isn't there yet and occasionally the midfield leaves holes. But we've gotten that professional win while not playing well. We also had a bit of luck. But I'll take it.

This Feb month is crazy. Sampdoria, Roma, Lazio and in a bit we have Inter and Juve. Yeesh!

[han2503]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Nah we played like crap. The attack isn't there yet and occasionally the midfield leaves holes. But we've gotten that professional win while not playing well. We also had a bit of luck. But I'll take it.

This Feb month is crazy. Sampdoria, Roma, Lazio and in a bit we have Inter and Juve. Yeesh!

Yeah, tonight is going to be difficult but it's a must-win when you look at that list and all the potential for lost points.

Look, we're not play well, and it's not a pretty sight by any stretch of the imagination, but we're winning, and at least we're scoring more frequently, which is something that had also become an issue in the last few months, so I'll take it

[X-Offender]

Tonight is a MUST-WIN. Anything other than the 3 points would be a failure.

[William405]

Stream anyone?