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 Sep 1 2014, 12:31 AM
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Allievi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388  |
(IMG:http://s17.postimg.org/9ehnxp7wf/rsz_van_ginkel_2.jpg)
Role: Midfielder Jersey: 21 Birth date: December 1, 1992 Birth place: Amersfoort, Netherlands Height: 1.86 Weight: 82 This post has been edited by KillerMax: Sep 3 2014, 09:49 PM |
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Sep 1 2014, 04:45 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Mourinho on van Ginkel: “He covers a fantastic area of the field defensively and after that he has this instinct where he wants to go into finishing areas, he wants to score goals. He’s very good in the air.”
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Sep 1 2014, 06:06 AM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
Welcome VG!!
Looking forward to seeing what he can offer this team. Seems to be promising. |
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Sep 1 2014, 07:16 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Google image his name. Who does he remind you of? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sep 1 2014, 07:18 PM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
I was gonna ask you who but then when I Googled his name, I saw a picture of Justin Bieber. Is that who you're referring to?
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Sep 1 2014, 07:28 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 1 2014, 01:18 PM)  I was gonna ask you who but then when I Googled his name, I saw a picture of Justin Bieber. Is that who you're referring to? I thought that before seeing those bieber pics, so it was funny to see those. Yeah I think he totally has some Bieber vibe going on: (IMG:http://du8znpjowa92.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/The-agent-of-Vitesse-Arnhem-midfielder-Marco-van-Ginkel-Karel-Jansen-has-confirmed-Chelseas-interest-in-the-Holland-international..jpg) (IMG:http://www.eatsleepsport.com/images/photos/Stories/1778941.jpg) (IMG:http://topnews.in/sports/files/Marco-van-Ginkel.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Sep 1 2014, 07:32 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Our marketing people should get on this, advertise a Bieber look-alike playing in the San Siro, get that teenage girl demographic
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Sep 1 2014, 08:36 PM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
1st Milan interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuF1XbgRK7A (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) |
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Sep 3 2014, 09:32 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
QUOTE (Galliani) “Van Ginkel resisted initially. It’s not that he didn’t want to join us – he just thought that he could get into the Chelsea team. “But Mourinho is a great Coach, and told the lad that after an eight-month lay-off through injury, coming here would be good for him. “I then asked [countryman Nigel] De Jong to speak to him, and Fernando Torres as well. Eventually he said yes.” |
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Sep 3 2014, 09:35 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
Good to know he'll be ready for Chelsea after recovering at Milan.
Oh, will he? Recovering at Milan, usually is only temperary. Great young player, but where is Milan heading with this management? |
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Sep 3 2014, 09:39 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 4 2014, 12:35 AM) where is Milan heading with this management? (IMG:http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slides/ta00/9c1/5d2/the-road-to-nowhere-going-nowhere-iqaluit.jpg) |
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Sep 3 2014, 09:49 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Number 21.
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Sep 25 2014, 10:01 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
injured for a month. Ligament damage. Expect him to be back at the same time as Saponara and Lopez. Post the international break for the game against Verona on the 19th. -> Football-Italia
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Sep 25 2014, 01:41 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Too bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 25 2014, 02:09 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 25 2014, 01:41 PM) Too bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Yep, he looked good on Tuesday. I think he'd add a completely new dynamic to our midfield if he's used correctly and settles in well |
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Sep 25 2014, 02:26 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Tbh, concerned that Lopez is out too. Doesn't give our defence any time to settle. Abbiati continues to play as Gk for us, and deep lying playmaker for the opposition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Sep 25 2014, 03:26 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2014, 01:09 PM) Yep, he looked good on Tuesday. I think he'd add a completely new dynamic to our midfield if he's used correctly and settles in well Looked like it took him all of 2 minutes on the pitch to settle in. Has the tools to make it to the top of the game. |
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Sep 25 2014, 05:26 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 25 2014, 03:26 PM) Looked like it took him all of 2 minutes on the pitch to settle in. Has the tools to make it to the top of the game. Too bad we have no option on him, it really does feel like we're developing Chelsea's talent with this bright move from Galliani |
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Sep 25 2014, 06:48 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2014, 05:26 PM) Too bad we have no option on him, it really does feel like we're developing Chelsea's talent with this bright move from Galliani Yeah, that's the part that sucks. But we could always make an offer to them after the loan expires if we want him that badly. But I don't think MvG wants to stay. He's focused on making it at Chelsea, from what I've been able to understand. |
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Sep 25 2014, 09:24 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 25 2014, 04:26 PM) Too bad we have no option on him, it really does feel like we're developing Chelsea's talent with this bright move from Galliani That's the market we're in. Can't attract the best any more. Although there was a good interview with a Milan-supporting financial analyst I know called Andrea Bricchi on Twitter with a UK paper called the Daily Mail which went some lengths to explaining our financial state at present. Enlightening stance on it really. I always said Silvio had the money but refused to spend it. I couldn't understand why. Possibly now I do. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...a-AC-Milan.html This post has been edited by Danny: Sep 25 2014, 09:24 PM |
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Sep 25 2014, 09:28 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
^ Thanks for the link. Am too tired now, but will definitely check it tomorrow.
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Nov 5 2014, 04:45 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE Van Ginkel agent warns Milan The agent of Marko van Ginkel has warned Milan that his client expects more playing time - or the Rossoneri risk losing him in January. Van Ginkel joined the club on loan from Chelsea in the summer, but has only seen 33 minutes of Serie A action so far. It is a situation that has the midfielder’s agent warning that he could return to Stamford Bridge if things don’t change. “At the start of the season being on the bench was understandable,” Karel Jansen has told Fox Sports. “There was a need for a period of acclimatisation. “But now Marko still can’t get a game and we’re not happy. “He didn’t come to Milan to sit on the bench, that would be illogical. “If the situation doesn’t change, Chelsea could recall him as early as January.” If anything, this confirms his exit in January. Thought there was huge potential in the kid, except he was never really a part of the playing squad. Same can be said of Niang. Maybe the kid has something to offer, but then again maybe he does not. I wouldn't dwell much into it, seeing as if he was that good, we would have seen more of him. |
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Nov 5 2014, 05:04 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Chelsea are a pretty young team, I don't see where he fits in there. Can see him going to some Bundesliga club in a few years.
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Nov 5 2014, 06:33 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
It's such a shame to see us wasting this opportunity with him
Had we given him proper time he could have flourished, and who knows, he might have pushed for a permanent move, because as kurt said above, there's simply no space for him at Chelsea. But who cares, let's send him back, as long as there's space for Muntari in the team all is well |
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Nov 5 2014, 10:56 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
We could potentially burn bridges with Chelsea over this too. Why would they send any other players on loan here in the future?
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Nov 5 2014, 11:13 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 5 2014, 10:56 PM) We could potentially burn bridges with Chelsea over this too. Why would they send any other players on loan here in the future? Yep, especially after the favours they did for us this summer My question is why even bother with the loan if the coach had no intention of using him? |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:28 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2014, 01:56 AM) We could potentially burn bridges with Chelsea over this too. Why would they send any other players on loan here in the future? Don't think that would be the case. |
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Nov 6 2014, 01:04 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 6 2014, 10:28 AM) Don't think that would be the case. Yes it would. Chelsea sent, as part of the relationship between the clubs (not quite as strong as what we have with Real) a player on loan in goodwill that he'd get playing time. He's started once in 10 games, excluding his injury. He's not even made a single sub appearance. It's been really poor. |
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Nov 6 2014, 01:13 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
We would have to pay €400,000 to Chelsea if MVG doesn't get 20 appearances. If he does, it's a free loan. More money thrown out of the window.
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Nov 6 2014, 01:26 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 6 2014, 04:04 PM) Yes it would. Chelsea sent, as part of the relationship between the clubs (not quite as strong as what we have with Real) a player on loan in goodwill that he'd get playing time. He's started once in 10 games, excluding his injury. He's not even made a single sub appearance. It's been really poor. So your certain we wont be able to strike deals with Chelsea (or any other European team), because we didnt field this kid? Ofcourse this noting that there were never guarantees that a loaned player would get playing time? If you do, then its fine because its your opinion. i just see it differently (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 6 2014, 02:46 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 6 2014, 02:13 PM) We would have to pay €400,000 to Chelsea if MVG doesn't get 20 appearances. If he does, it's a free loan. More money thrown out of the window. Wow. |
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Nov 6 2014, 03:30 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2014, 07:46 PM) Wow. Amazing, even. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) |
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Nov 6 2014, 04:01 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:26 PM) So your certain we wont be able to strike deals with Chelsea (or any other European team), because we didnt field this kid? Ofcourse this noting that there were never guarantees that a loaned player would get playing time? If you do, then its fine because its your opinion. i just see it differently (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Apart from the 400,000 we'd have to pay if he didn't, no. I'm sure Rami will love the 400,000 he gave Milan for his deal being wasted by the club in this way. Nice one Pippo. |
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Nov 7 2014, 12:14 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 6 2014, 07:01 PM) Apart from the 400,000 we'd have to pay if he didn't, no. I'm sure Rami will love the 400,000 he gave Milan for his deal being wasted by the club in this way. Nice one Pippo. Do we know the terms of the agreement/contract to base a claim on such a clause? Or are we dependant on so&so said this/that? I mean, yes absolutely, there very well could be such a clause. Heck lets say 200% there is such a clause, why are you upset? You claim he is a great prospect, no? 400K is 'measly' for his services. Then what if Pippo scarcely plays him? We hade seen many prospect players; niang, gourcuff, paloschi, ses, balotelli, etc etc ... What I'm saying is, he might not be all that hype that accompanied him here. Certainly not after his dodgy approach to the side. But I'm not one to dwell on what he had done, trust Pippo wants to win and if he gets it wrong then its his mistake, but I would like to believe he has an idea in mind and is trying to tweak it proper. |
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Nov 27 2014, 12:07 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
But then you've gotta ask why we signed/loaned the guy in the first place. And since Muntari, Essien and Poli haven't exactly been stellar by now, I think we should give van Ginkel a chance to prove himself.
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Nov 27 2014, 12:23 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
There are many things that should be done, Fillipo. Playing van Ginkel is only one of them.
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Nov 27 2014, 02:09 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 26 2014, 11:07 PM) But then you've gotta ask why we signed/loaned the guy in the first place. And since Muntari, Essien and Poli haven't exactly been stellar by now, I think we should give van Ginkel a chance to prove himself. Not going to happen. Just like Armero. Both are simply not wanted by stubborn and arrogant Pippo. |
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Nov 27 2014, 12:06 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 27 2014, 04:09 AM) Not going to happen. Just like Armero. Both are simply not wanted by stubborn and arrogant Pippo. Well, we'll see. At least with Armero we don't miss anything. I'm 100% sure it's better we play MDS when available. |
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Nov 27 2014, 12:32 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 27 2014, 11:06 AM) Well, we'll see. At least with Armero we don't miss anything. I'm 100% sure it's better we play MDS when available. You're missing the point. Ok, Rami had a good match, but Pippo had no desire to use Armero at LB and MDS at RB when Abate was out. Essentially their best positions. He rather played Bonera at LB ahead of Armero before Abate was available. Point is Armero is badly treated, as is van Ginkel. |
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