[Fillipo Simone]

Great debut for Milan. Hopefully he'll keep on with the good and hard work.

(IMG:http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2012/02/19/muntari_sulley640_640.jpg)

[acid911]

I wouldn't count on it, but wouldn't discount it either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) A good goal today, and here's to a good season!

[X-Offender]

More than the goal, his performance was great!

[TriniKing_CE]

(IMG:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401413_351070394925062_141629532535817_1066682_465305545_n.jpg)

Debut Goal Celebration

[KillerMax]

It was the opener too. You could see his sheer hunger as he moved toward that ball. I remember the latter Ancelotti years and how no one in the team seemed to have any motivation. We've come a long way since.

This post has been edited by KillerMax: Feb 20 2012, 02:50 AM

[Jack Bauer]

Muntari totally flunked at Inter but was good before he moved to the dark side. Maybe Allegri can revive his career...

[Rossoneri7]

Muntari totally flunked at Inter but was good before he moved to the dark side. Maybe Allegri can revive his career...

He was very useful for Cuntinho, coming in as a sub in the 60th IIRC - adding a lot f muscle to their midfield.

[Jack Bauer]

Muntari: "The first day at Milanello, I was at Galliani's office and then he brought me to the trophies room and told me: "This is Milan""

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[d'Arc.LP]

"I don't care about skin color. Everyone has the same blood color." - Muntari

[Fillipo Simone]

Today he played once again a good match. Nocerino happening all over again probably, but even more sweeter this time.

[X-Offender]

I never thought I'd say this, but he's proved to be a great signing so far. It would have been two goals in two games, if it wasn't for the blind linesman.

[milanbuf88]

Today he played once again a good match. Nocerino happening all over again probably, but even more sweeter this time.

Definitely. He is on a loan right? How much would it take to get him permanently? If he is Nocerino-cheap I would pull the trigger. He can be a solid squad player. I believe he is only 27.

[X-Offender]

Definitely. He is on a loan right? How much would it take to get him permanently? If he is Nocerino-cheap I would pull the trigger. He can be a solid squad player. I believe he is only 27.

If I'm not mistaken, his contract with Inter terminates this summer. So, basically, we should get him for free.

[TriniKing_CE]

I never thought I'd say this, but he's proved to be a great signing so far. It would have been two goals in two games, if it wasn't for the blind linesman.

Ohh, he's not blind.

He knows exactly what he was doing!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

I never thought I'd say this, but he's proved to be a great signing so far. It would have been two goals in two games, if it wasn't for the fcuking linesman.

+1

[acid911]

Ohh, he's not blind.
He knows exactly what he was doing!

Aye, I wouldn't mind Juventus going down to where they belong in Serie B. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Should be fun times again!

[TriniKing_CE]

Aye, I wouldn't mind Juventus going down to where they belong in Serie B. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Should be fun times again!

I would have much rather seeing inter go down, but considering they got away, I just hope we don't see this kinda sh!t anymore, it gives our league a bad reputation.

[milanbuf88]

If I'm not mistaken, his contract with Inter terminates this summer. So, basically, we should get him for free.

Oh Galliani you savy ******* you

[X-Offender]

http://youtu.be/95cbtSdhUNI

I don't know what happened, but Abate and van Bommel can't stop laughing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[han2503]

http://youtu.be/95cbtSdhUNI

I don't know what happened, but Abate and van Bommel can't stop laughing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Maybe they're laughing at the silly hat and shades Muntari is wearing...

[Fillipo Simone]

Chicago Bulls hat? Bulls ain't silly han.

I'd say it's something internal.

[X-Offender]

For han's pleasure, we won't be seeing him in the next three games. Can't play against Barça and suspended against Catania.

[han2503]

For han's pleasure, we won't be seeing him in the next three games. Can't play against Barça and suspended against Catania.

Can't be that surprised that he's already suspended, he's gotten a yellow in every single game he's played

The most idiotic player I've seen in a while, just because he can hit the ball hard in the general direction of the goal does not make him a good player

[X-Offender]

Can't be that surprised that he's already suspended, he's gotten a yellow in every single game he's played

The most idiotic player I've seen in a while, just because he can hit the ball hard in the general direction of the goal does not make him a good player

Against Lecce, Parma and Juve he sucked big time, but I honestly thought he was decent against Roma.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Mar 26 2012, 09:05 PM

[han2503]

Against Lecce, Parma and Juve he sucked big time, but I honestly thought he was decent against Roma.

He didn't make any bad errors, but even his tracking back is abysmal. At one point after we were leading Mesbah got pulled away to the center and intead of covering him, Muntari just strolled along

[Fillipo Simone]

Yeah, really, point is he didn't do anything disastrous. I don't think he's Milan material, but I'm positive we're gonna sign him.

[X-Offender]

I think it's fine as long as we use him as Nocerino's sub. However, the way Allegri keeps preferring him over Aquilani kind of annoys me.

[acid911]

I think it's fine as long as we use him as Nocerino's sub. However, the way Allegri keeps preferring him over Aquilani kind of annoys me.

Agreed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Muntari is fine as a sub, and just that.

[Zed.D]

He looks lazy and clumsy at times. when he puts effort he can be decent. I haven't seen that effort from him since his early Inter days.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Against Lecce, Parma and Juve he sucked big time, but I honestly thought he was decent against Roma.

+ 1 agaisnt roma, especially near the end, he was crucial.

[acid911]

He looks lazy and clumsy at times. when he puts effort he can be decent. I haven't seen that effort from him since his early Inter days.

But then again, that's just he is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I mean, I've seen Muntari a fair few bit, and that's just how he is.

[X-Offender]

Who would've guessed he'd become an Allegri favorite so quickly? Our ruin.

[acid911]

I did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Allegri loves his muscles, or in other words, muscle men!

[Fillipo Simone]

Yeah, that's it. But how is Emanuleson his favorite? And most distressingly, why does Allegri think players like Muntari and Emo can cover every single place on the field?

[acid911]

Don't quite understand his obsession with Muntari, but I reckon Allegri considers Emanuelson a utility player who can do a bit of everything. You know, those jack of all trades, master of none type of fellas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I still can't get the images of the first few times Allegri brought on Emanuelson, and then began starting him regularly.

That too, smack in the middle. I'd be hard-pressed to find a more talentless individual occupying, perhaps, the most important position in the team, in any of the big clubs. Maybe even a few of the smaller clubs too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It's like making a college dropout the head nuclear scientist in a laboratory - you need skills for this post.

Every time I see Emanusleon (and to a lesser extent, Muntari), I get a smack of mediocrity on my face!

[X-Offender]

Yeah, that's it. But how is Emanuleson his favorite? And most distressingly, why does Allegri think players like Muntari and Emo can cover every single place on the field?

Because he's a n00b coach that in two years at Milan has learned absolutely nothing.

[Fillipo Simone]

Because he's a n00b coach that in two years at Milan has learned absolutely nothing.

How did that Allegri hate evolve all of the sudden in you? Just because we lost to Fiorentina?

[X-Offender]

How did that Allegri hate evolve all of the sudden in you? Just because we lost to Fiorentina?

Did you forget my anti-Allegri sig? I've never liked him. So how do you expect me to react when this n00b just lost us the lead?

[Fillipo Simone]

Did you forget my anti-Allegri sig? I've never liked him. So how do you expect me to react when this n00b just lost us the lead?

Well, stable. You went from anti-Allegri to mildly pro Allegri then neutral and now fiercely anti-Allegri now.

[X-Offender]

Well, stable. You went from anti-Allegri to mildly pro Allegri then neutral and now fiercely anti-Allegri now.

Not true. I praised him and the team in a few occasions, which is understandable, but I've never been pro him.

[Fillipo Simone]

Not true. I praised him and the team in a few occasions, which is understandable, but I've never been pro him.

Haha, so funny. Essentially we agree on crucial Milan related things but somehow we still manage to argue.

[X-Offender]

It must be in the destiny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Muntari Owned

[X-Offender]

Yeah, I saw that. Pretty funny. Chievo clarified with a note today that the kid didn't want the shirt because the club has given precise indications to stadium personal not to accept shirts or disturb the players of both Chievo and other teams after a game, though.

[Fillipo Simone]

Ahh, stupid kid.

[Jack Bauer]

His new car:

(IMG:http://cs302714.userapi.com/v302714764/24/mJoVAEHeunc.jpg)

[Zed.D]

Damn, he drives my favorite brand of sports car.

[X-Offender]

Damn, he drives my favorite brand of sports car.

The Batmobile?

[CrazyMilanFan]

The Batmobile?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[han2503]

His new car:

(IMG:http://cs302714.userapi.com/v302714764/24/mJoVAEHeunc.jpg)

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Inter paid us 1.5 million to take him off their hands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I doubt we spent much.

[TriniKing_CE]

Now I'm not sure how legit this is, but the caption on the picture when it was posted indicates that Muntari was wearing inter shinguards under his socks

(IMG:https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533365_10151489288415534_848630533_23869398_1879580269_n.jpg)

Disgraceful if the pic was untouched!!

[X-Offender]

Muntari claimed they are a type of shinguards of Nike, not Inter's. The logo similarity is just a coincidence.

[Zed.D]

Really looks like Inter's old crest.

[Fillipo Simone]

Anyway, it's a detail.

[han2503]

If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds

[han2503]

If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds

[Jack Sparrow]

He's the new Brocchi! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

He's the new Brocchi! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

At least Brocchi had some dignity and drive.

Muntari just stands around, cool as a cucumber, waiting around for the ball and than losing it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Hey..he was brought in as an understudy to an understudy. What are you expecting? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Hey..he was brought in as an understudy to an understudy. What are you expecting? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes, but who'd have thought that the genius we call our coach would insist on playing him every minute, even when the players he is understudying to have returned

[kurtsimonw]

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.

[han2503]

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.

Oh, sorry. I didn't know that we won those games thanks to Muntari. And not in spite of him bumbling around on the pitch and tripping over his own feet.

[X-Offender]

Muntari should be Nocerino's sub, I would be more than OK with that. What really irks me is Allegri playing him in every single game, whether as LCM, playmaker, and even AM, like he's an all-rounder that can pretty much do every job. Which he clearly can't.

[nuh]

guys calm down about the shin pads
they are nike total 90 designs
http://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/nik/n...yellow-kids.jpg

[Fillipo Simone]

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.

And you seriously thin it's his doing?

[X-Offender]

guys calm down about the shin pads
they are nike total 90 designs
http://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/nik/n...yellow-kids.jpg

Good we cleared that up.

And you seriously thin it's his doing?

Kurt is always about the numbers.

[Zed.D]

You know, Muntari has been bad in most of the games he's played for us, but he hasn't been THAT bad. I mean, Mesbah bad. one thing he does rather well is winning balls. I've seen him do that many times. though he loses them easily in return.

What pisses me off about him the most is because I think he plays like he doesn't really care. slow, lazy and clumsy. you can't call yourself a footballer when that is your attitude. in his first seasons at Inter, I thought he was very good. I still think he's potentially a good player, if only he cared enough.

[kurtsimonw]

And you seriously thin it's his doing?

As I said above. We win with him. I couldn't care less how or why. But y'know, you guys keep taking things out of context to have a little cry about something or other.

[han2503]

As I said above. We win with him. I couldn't care less how or why. But y'know, you guys keep taking things out of context to have a little cry about something or other.

Lol, and you think the results would nose dive if he were to be taken out?

[kurtsimonw]

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.

[Fillipo Simone]

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.

Yeah, it's a random fact that only deludes people who don't watch Milan games; other then that I really don't see a point? Surely someone could find an impressive win record when Milan started Taribo West or Jens Lehmann, but heck what does it matter when the context maintains missing?

[kurtsimonw]

Because I don't see it as an issue when we're winning? If he was playing and we kept losing and he was awful - problem. That's not the case. He hasn't even been awful and we're winning with him. What the hell's the problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[han2503]

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.

How are they outstanding?

we basically gave up the Scudetto while he was gallivanting in our midfield.

He only played decently in his first 2 to 3 games. The rest has been utter cr@p. And if you don't think having that kind of liability in our midfield wasn't in part at fault for our collapse, then I don't know what else to say to you.

Defending Muntari is ultimately defending Allegri's idiotic decision to constantly play him. That says enough

[kurtsimonw]

How are they outstanding?

we basically gave up the Scudetto while he was gallivanting in our midfield.

I don't think he's a reason we're winning a lot, but that's completely retarded.

With Muntari - 2.25ppg
Without Muntari - 2.04ppg

It's a fact we're winning more with him in the team with him out of the team. Arguing that is, well, being factually incorrect. Not sure why people are even arguing this. It was a stat I noticed, I put it, what's the big deal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Apr 30 2012, 07:49 PM

[Rossoneri7]

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.

[han2503]

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.

Are you serious???!!!

Why he shouldn't be playing??? Because there are players fit and on the bench who are far better than him FFS!!

[TriniKing_CE]

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.

Neither are Milan quality. Fin!

[Rossoneri7]

Are you serious???!!!

Why he shouldn't be playing??? Because there are players fit and on the bench who are far better than him FFS!!

Why is it you are pissed? I thought as far as your concerned the season was over?

[Rossoneri7]

Neither are Milan quality. Fin!

True, but so are Aquilani and Flamini (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[han2503]

Why is it you are pissed? I thought as far as your concerned the season was over?

What does the season being over have to do with being p!ssed about the fact that this idiot is getteing as much minutes as Zlatan Ibrahimovich FFS!

How can you not be p!ssed when you see him in our shirt making a fool of himself on the pitch. It's frustrating because we've been playing some of our worst stuff under Allegri since this idiot has been playing regularly for us

[han2503]

True, but so are Aquilani and Flamini (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

They are Milan quality! Maybe not starting quality but certainly more than good enough to be in the Milan squad. Muntari is not even worthy of a ball boy position on this team

[Fillipo Simone]

They are Milan quality! Maybe not starting quality but certainly more than good enough to be in the Milan squad. Muntari is not even worthy of a ball boy position on this team

Aquilani is Milan quality in terms of rotation and back-up. Sorry, but Flamini isn't. There's no way you can prove it; he's just a few inches better then Muntari.

[X-Offender]

Aquilani proved during September-December that he's a decent player you can actually count on. If it wasn't for his injury and Allegri's reluctance to play him because of the infamous '25 presences', he'd still be a worthy starter in our midfield. Muntari, on the other hand, only proved during these months that he's the same idiot who we all thought he was at Inter. He scored a couple of lucky goals, and had about 2-3 decent games in total. But I don't really blame him. It's all Allegri's fault for playing him non-stop when he clearly had better players on the bench. And that's what really pisses the hell out of me!

[William405]

Aquilani proved during September-December that he's a decent player you can actually count on. If it wasn't for his injury and Allegri's reluctance to play him because of the infamous '25 presences', he'd still be a worthy starter in our midfield. Muntari, on the other hand, only proved during these months that he's the same idiot who we all thought he was at Inter. He scored a couple of lucky goals, and had about 2-3 decent games in total. But I don't really blame him. It's all Allegri's fault for playing him non-stop when he clearly had better players on the bench. And that's what really pisses the hell out of me!

+100000 keep them comin.

[kurtsimonw]

Imagine if we actually lost games with Muntari playing? This place would explode.

[Fillipo Simone]

Imagine if we actually lost games with Muntari playing? This place would explode.

Come on, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove to us? You think Muntari is responsible for winning those games, or his presence is giving us the tactical edge?

And by the way, mere numbers don't mean much. We won against smaller teams (bar Roma, but I can't remember if Muntari played there as a starter).

[kurtsimonw]

I am not trying to prove anything. He's obviously not as bad as most suggest. But he wasn't wanted and is unfashionable, so unless he becomes Kaka', opnions won't change.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: May 1 2012, 08:01 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

I am not trying to prove anything. He's obviously not as bad as most suggest. But he wasn't wanted and is unfashionable, so unless he becomes Kaka', opnions won't change.

Sorry, I disagree. You're citing extremes. Bommel, Nocerino, Ambrosini and Flamini are all fighters who ain't as flashy as Kaka but still get appreciation here when they do good.

[kurtsimonw]

Sorry, I disagree. You're citing extremes. Bommel, Nocerino, Ambrosini and Flamini are all fighters who ain't as flashy as Kaka but still get appreciation here when they do good.

I didn't mean as flashy as Kaka', but I meant unless someone basically becomes a star they won't get credit. Ambro still doesn't get much credit and I've still seen some comments of talking about Nocerino being a backup, despite this outstanding season he's had. Flamini doesn't get much appreciation, but then he hasn't deserved any.

[han2503]

I didn't mean as flashy as Kaka', but I meant unless someone basically becomes a star they won't get credit. Ambro still doesn't get much credit and I've still seen some comments of talking about Nocerino being a backup, despite this outstanding season he's had. Flamini doesn't get much appreciation, but then he hasn't deserved any.

VB and Nocerino are great examples of not being initially wanted by most of the people here. Yet they're now viewed as 2 of the most important players on our team by most. Only the odd person sees Nocerino as anything other than an important starter

Making him out to be worse than he really is?? Hardly! I don't get what you're getting at with this argument, even a person who knows absolutely nothing about football can see what a liability Muntari truely is in our midfield

And your stat sheet with Muntari in the team really doesn't mean anything. It's like we weren't winning before and all of a sudden started to win once we brought him in. Like our very own personal miracle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Most likely we would have still won all those games without him bumbling around on the pitch and making mistakes out of what should be simple passes.

[Rossoneri7]

VB and Nocerino are great examples of not being initially wanted by most of the people here. Yet they're now viewed as 2 of the most important players on our team by most. Only the odd person sees Nocerino as anything other than an important starter

Making him out to be worse than he really is?? Hardly! I don't get what you're getting at with this argument, even a person who knows absolutely nothing about football can see what a liability Muntari truely is in our midfield

And your stat sheet with Muntari in the team really doesn't mean anything. It's like we weren't winning before and all of a sudden started to win once we brought him in. Like our very own personal miracle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Most likely we would have still won all those games without him bumbling around on the pitch and making mistakes out of what should be simple passes.

You cant really be that biased han ... Muntari is not Makelele, he is a Broochi. You don't like Broochies, ok .. But Allegri does. For me, especially in the closing weeks of the season, I'd rather see those 3 points accumulate game-by-game, than worry about little details of who started and shouldn't .. And if Allegri can confirm with his selections the points, then I don't consider Muntari a liability.

Again obviously he isn't Ringo in his prime, he is a Broochi in his prime (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

My posts are timed pretty well sometimes. Thanks for the 2 extra points today, Sully.

[Jack Sparrow]

To hell with you. It was Robbie who gave us the points.

[kurtsimonw]

Whatever you say, boss.

[Jack Sparrow]

Coz sulley's goal was canceled out by Marchisio...but it was Robbie's that they didn't have an answer to. So by this brilliant twist of logic that only a mind as delusional as mine could have come up with...I'm right and you're wrong. Now buy me beer and a lapdance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

wut.

[han2503]

Last time I checked scoring a goal does not meqn that you were utterly cr@p in everything else you did during the game. Because that always sums up Muntari. And I find it funny how you try to attribute the win to this good for mothing, as if he was the only player on the pitch for us.

And what's really funny here is that you're only trying to defend his case because it's Allegri's repeatedly stupid decision to play him in every game

[kurtsimonw]

Yes, because he was 'utterly crap'.