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Serie A - Week 14 - Sampdoria - Milan, Date: 27/11/10 Time: 18:00 CET |
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Nov 24 2010, 05:55 PM
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Let's keep the good times rolling (IMG: style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Nov 24 2010, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 24 2010, 06:55 PM)  2nd post reserved ^^.Maybe it will help with luck and shiz.
Anyway,I hope Ibra will be rested.Dinho with Robinho partenrship and NO GATTUSO. A Dinho Robinho attack worries me, it won't contain a focal point to play off of, since both like the wings and tend to go deep I agree that Ibra has to be rested, though is it smart to do it against Samp, they are no walkover.... Anyways my team if Pirlo is not ready, which according to Gazzetta looks to be the case Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro Flamini--Ambro--Boateng Seedorf Robinho--Dinho If it's not working throw in Ibra for any one of the 3 in attack. But Boateng and Flamini in that midfield will give us the push we need while still maintaining defensive balance However this is what Allegri will play Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro Flamini--Ambro--Rino Seedorf Robinho--Ibra
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Nov 24 2010, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 24 2010, 06:39 PM)  However this is what Allegri will play Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro Flamini--Ambro--Rino Seedorf Robinho--Ibra Aye, i would rather see KPB get the start over Rino, Ibra will have to start even tho he needs a rest, i cant see Robbie playing lone upfront supported by Dinho and Seedorf working very well, but we will see.
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Nov 24 2010, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 24 2010, 08:48 PM)  If Seedorf is tired then I'd take the chance and play Merkel or Verdi.It couldn't hurt really.
Will Antonini be back?Also,it's silly that Pirlo is injured for that long.I thought it was a "minor injury". It was minor, before he was pushed in to play a stupid friendly against Romania (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Also, you really want to play a Primavera in this one?? I don't know why some people think this will be an easy tie. Samp are a very difficuilt team, especially at home as X-off pointed out. Next week we don't have any midweek fixtures so I guees it's ok to start a full strength line-up. My only worry is Rino playing in a 3 DM midfield (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) and Ibra playing another full 90, he's tired, so tired that he requested the sub himself yesterday, that's why I think he should be rested, we cannot risk Ibra getting injured
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Nov 24 2010, 10:33 PM
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X-Offender:You can only wish ;p
Han:Samp haven't convinced at all this season,apart from their draw against Inter and that wasn't a big accomplishment after all.I think,we're going to win this if Samp don't pull a good performance,and as you said they're tough at home so maybe.That's why I suggested to throw in a primavera to give a bit of spark to our team,Merkel showed great skill in the pre-season,and I bet he can do it with great desire against Samp,but I'm pretty sure it won't happen.
Off-topic:The only reason I'd give Rafael Benitez a chance at inter is because he has tried to incorporate youth into the first team.He made it work with Coutinho and he's trying with Biabiany who imo is still average.Like it or not,he's trying something new and injuries has screwed him over so far.Why can't we throw in a youth to our formation from time to time.
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Nov 24 2010, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 24 2010, 10:22 PM)  And we play whom instead of him, exactly? Well that's where the problem comes in. But the question is do we start Ibra again and let him stay on practically all game and risk him pulling a muscle that could potentially put him out for weeks just so he could play in one game? Best option is to start him, hope like hell that we have a lead by HT and put Dinho on instead, other then that we don't really have an option
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Nov 24 2010, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 24 2010, 10:33 PM)  Han:Samp haven't convinced at all this season,apart from their draw against Inter and that wasn't a big accomplishment after all.I think,we're going to win this if Samp don't pull a good performance,and as you said they're tough at home so maybe.That's why I suggested to throw in a primavera to give a bit of spark to our team,Merkel showed great skill in the pre-season,and I bet he can do it with great desire against Samp,but I'm pretty sure it won't happen. Jesus, when did we become so pretentious? Only a few weeks ago we were resigned to another crappy season, and now we wanna play primavera kids and bench Zlatan against Sampdoria??? Seriously, do a reality check. QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 24 2010, 10:33 PM)  Off-topic:The only reason I'd give Rafael Benitez a chance at inter is because he has tried to incorporate youth into the first team.He made it work with Coutinho and he's trying with Biabiany who imo is still average.Like it or not,he's trying something new and injuries has screwed him over so far.Why can't we throw in a youth to our formation from time to time. The only reason Bentiez is playing the primavera kids is because he has no other alternatives. Have you taken a look at Inter's injury list? Did you take a look at their bench tonight? If Inter had all players available, or if they'd signed someone this summer, players like Coutinho and Biabiany would have barely seen the pitch.
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Nov 25 2010, 12:58 AM
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Or one game and a 6-month injury. Your call.
I'd rather risk dropping points against Samp than losing Ibra. Of course, this entire situation could have been avoided if Allegri had subbed out Ibra towards the end of our easier games, but alas...
Ronnie-Robbie, with Zee behind them is hardly a bad striking formation, despite what you guys say. If we are having problems, Ibra can play, but if the must play one half, it should be the second, not the first. That way he faces a tired defense rather than a fresh one.
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Nov 25 2010, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (Linkman @ Nov 25 2010, 07:58 AM)  Or one game and a 6-month injury. Your call.
I'd rather risk dropping points against Samp than losing Ibra. Of course, this entire situation could have been avoided if Allegri had subbed out Ibra towards the end of our easier games, but alas...
Ronnie-Robbie, with Zee behind them is hardly a bad striking formation, despite what you guys say. If we are having problems, Ibra can play, but if the must play one half, it should be the second, not the first. That way he faces a tired defense rather than a fresh one. Agreed, I for one would like to see how Ronaldinho and Robinho play together. If it doesn't work, throw Ibra in, we all know he can create something out of nothing. The odds of Milan winning is better now since Cassano can no longer play for Sampdoria.
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Nov 25 2010, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 25 2010, 01:53 AM)  +1
You people are just making a big fuss out of nothing. It's not like the rest of the squad isn't tired. Ibra has probably played the most minutes from all the outfield players. It might be a big fuss out of nothing since you can't predict these things, but it only takes one awkward stretch and Ibra could be out for a month, he's had a week to rest before during international break, and he's still saying that he's very tired. Maybe Samp is the wrong time to rest him. We'll see what happens We have Samp, Brescia, Bologna and Roma coming up before the winter break plus a CL game, and 2 Coppa matches in between
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Nov 25 2010, 11:24 AM
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Well, I except Milan to field a B-side against Ajax. We secured second, can't top Real, so I hope we'll see the reserves. The Coppa games, at least one of them - should also be used to rest Ibra.
But I agree, he's been played over and over and I think Allegri should rest him a bit; if he gets injured, we'll be in a very bad situation.
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Nov 25 2010, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 25 2010, 04:33 PM)  What the hell??? We cannot rest Zlatan against Sampdoria! Guys, we're not playing Lecce, Brescia or Bologna, but S-A-M-P-D-O-R-I-A, one of the most difficult teams to face away. If Zlatan doesn't play, we can forget about the 3 points. Rest him next week against Brescia or Bologna, but definitely not this game. Well none of us are saying start without him. I'm saying we hope like hell that we have a lead by the 2nd half so we can take him off. Still I think he needs a full game's rest, we have Samp coming up this weekend so it's not really an option, but Allegri should really consider it against Brescia or Bologna. However if we play without him and a 3 DM midfield then we can really forget about the 3 points since when we play that system our only tactic is to launch balls to him hoping he does something with it, something that cannot be done with Dinho and Robinho up front
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Nov 25 2010, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 25 2010, 05:58 PM)  Without Ibra, I'd play us like this: Boateng - Pirlo - Ambrosini Seedorf - Ronaldinho Robinho Definitely an option to consider for next week's game. Robinho alone upfront? And that midfield would be a necassity, everything would have to go through it, as opposed to it being bipassed like when Zlatan is playing
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Nov 25 2010, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 25 2010, 06:33 PM)  LOL, the fact I put Ronaldinho next to Seedorf doesn't change much. 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1 doesn't change much with that set of players. It depends... A 4-3-2-1 could either mean Ronaldinho playing that old Kaka role, where he played off Gila or Pippo, or Robinho could be played as a lone striker with Dinho and Seedorf both behind him acting as attacking mids, thus having Robinho more central, where he could have trouble.
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Nov 26 2010, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 26 2010, 08:04 AM)  Will be Pirlo be back for this game? mediasetsport have him in the probable line-up while Gazzetta don't...
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Nov 26 2010, 03:53 PM
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Allegri On Pirlo QUOTE Unfortunately, Pirlo is not available for selection, even if I counted on him. I don’t believe that Antonini will be available, either, but we’ll see how he’s doing this afternoon http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130950(IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) No Andrea, but as Allegri says in rest of press conference, we have "managed" without Andrea thanks to Ambro even tho he plays the position differently.
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Nov 26 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 26 2010, 04:45 PM)  mediasetsport have him in the probable line-up while Gazzetta don't... The Gazzetta one doesn't even have Pirlo on the bench. I won't expect Pirlo to start this match. I like the one Gazzetta had: Robinho, Ibrahimovic Seedorf Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso Zambrotta, T.Silva, Nesta, Abate Abbiati bench: Amelia, Bonera, Yepes, Jankulovski, Strasser, Boateng, Ronaldinho
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Nov 26 2010, 03:57 PM
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Feel this is going to be a really tough one. I will take a boring, no flare, no shine performance and a hard fought 1-0 win thank you very much!!! But....we will see (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Forza Milan!
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Nov 26 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 26 2010, 02:54 PM)  The Gazzetta one doesn't even have Pirlo on the bench. I won't expect Pirlo to start this match. I like the one Gazzetta had:
Robinho, Ibrahimovic Seedorf Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso Zambrotta, T.Silva, Nesta, Abate Abbiati
bench: Amelia, Bonera, Yepes, Jankulovski, Strasser, Boateng, Ronaldinho Are my posts invisible? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Nov 26 2010, 07:43 PM
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20 Man Squad for Samp match. QUOTE Called up: Abbiati, Amelia, Roma; Bonera, Jankulovski, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Abate; Ambrosini, Boateng, Flamini, Gattuso, Seedorf, Strasser; Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Ronaldinho. Unavailable: Oddo, Inzaghi, Pato, Pirlo, Antonini. http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130957
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Nov 26 2010, 09:01 PM
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Question: why is the matchday set a 17th?
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Nov 27 2010, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 26 2010, 09:01 PM)  Question: why is the matchday set a 17th? Probably hit the 1 instead of 2. I'll change it (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Nov 27 2010, 01:09 PM
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I'm glad Pirlo's not playing. A lot of fans tend to see certain players for who they were instead of who they are now (I fall into this category as I'd insert Ronaldo into ANY starting lineup (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dramaqueensmil.gif) ) BUT the thing is Pirlo isn't THE Pirlo we once knew. His passing would be more fitting if our wingbacks and strikers made the type of runs that would have made his long passes relevant (See our first game this season). But as we are now iHomo likes to take the ball and work his way in, with a few short exchanges with Seedorf of Robinho.....and as much as I don't like Zlatan.....IT HAS WORKED! Zlatan struggled at Bartha mainly because he isn't the typical CF with the typical cf instincts and needs time with the ball at his feet. The only player that's going to run into the spaces that would make Pirlo's passing useful is Robinho. Otherwise it's going to be a bunch of sideways and silly dangerous backpasses. When Pato comes back, I'd have liked to see a 4-3-3 with Pato-iHomo-Robinho, supported by -Flams/Ambro-Pirlo-Boat-. I think that lineup could play some very exciting and beautiful football rather than grinding out the wins with blue collar performances as we've done. Pirlo will be able to use all of his skills and sexy passing galore.
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Nov 27 2010, 02:19 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about drucrul, Pirlo has been immense this season, he's played brilliantly for us and also most of the time left alone to defend and push the opposition away from our defense. His passing is great as always, he creates so many oppotunities, I don't know what the problem would be.
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Nov 27 2010, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 27 2010, 02:19 PM)  I don't know what you're talking about drucrul, Pirlo has been immense this season, he's played brilliantly for us and also most of the time left alone to defend and push the opposition away from our defense. His passing is great as always, he creates so many oppotunities, I don't know what the problem would be. Agreed. The "Pirlo isn't THE Pirlo we once knew" argument is too stereotypical and I'd except that from someone who doesn't watch Milan regularly. Anyone who's seen every Milan game this season would recognize that Pirlo has been GREAT, so far.
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Nov 27 2010, 02:43 PM
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Personally I cannot wait for Pirlo to be back so we can finally see this stupid 3 DM system put to rest and we can play some football instead of "Punt it up to Ibra" (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Nov 27 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 27 2010, 10:16 AM)  Anything that's obvious, yes. riiiiight (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Clearly leo died and made you Allegri (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Anyway poor little Cassano would be looking on considering where oh where to take his beautifully messed up talents
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Nov 27 2010, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Nov 26 2010, 11:48 PM)  Merkel is too young.
If strasser and Odu aren't given time; there is no way merkel will be. Merkel is better than Odu. So there's a reason, but it doesn't seem very likely youth will get many minutes in Milan. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 27 2010, 03:14 PM)  A big no! 4-3-1-2 is how we should always play. Agreed. Pato fits better in a 4-3-1-2, and Zlatan fits in then also. Since we don't start Ronaldinho, since teams not build around him, there's no reason to go back to 4-3-3. We've been doing very well with 4-3-1-2, we should keep it. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 27 2010, 03:22 PM)  Agreed. The "Pirlo isn't THE Pirlo we once knew" argument is too stereotypical and I'd except that from someone who doesn't watch Milan regularly. Anyone who's seen every Milan game this season would recognize that Pirlo has been GREAT, so far. Just like the nonsense people are talking about how Gattuso isn't his former self. Annoying, alright. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 27 2010, 04:19 PM)  Latest developments: Boateng in, Flamini out; Bonera in, Zambrotta out. LinkWhy not Gattuso FFS??? I don't like to see Bonera as left back. Why not Jankulovski then?
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Nov 27 2010, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 27 2010, 03:57 PM)  Just like the nonsense people are talking about how Gattuso isn't his former self. Annoying, alright. It actually applies in that case. Rino is not even a shadow of his former self, and this coming from a big fan of Rino who has watched him throughout his career at Milan. This Rino is a liability more then anything else, the only thing he still has left is heart, but that won't help him any when he comes up against teams like Real and Inter, where he has failed miserably Pirlo is younger, has just turned 30 and doesn't really rely on his physical game like Rino does, who's entire game is based on running and hassling opponents, something he can't do anymore.
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Nov 27 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 27 2010, 05:04 PM)  It actually applies in that case. Rino is not even a shadow of his former self, and this coming from a big fan of Rino who has watched him throughout his career at Milan.
This Rino is a liability more then anything else, the only thing he still has left is heart, but that won't help him any when he comes up against teams like Real and Inter, where he has failed miserably
Pirlo is younger, has just turned 30 and doesn't really rely on his physical game like Rino does, who's entire game is based on running and hassling opponents, something he can't do anymore. I meant to say it's annoying people compare players to what they used to be. Gattuso is performing very well this season, just not everyone notice this. Gattuso can't run, hassle opponents anymore? Really? Are you watching tapes of last season instead of this season's games? Having flashbacks?
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Nov 27 2010, 04:53 PM
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MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Bonera; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Boateng; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho. SAMPDORIA: Curci; Volta, Lucchini, Gastaldello, Ziegler; Mannini, Palombo, Tissone, Guberti; Pazzini, Marilungo. WTF,Bonera is our LB (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Nov 27 2010, 05:56 PM
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Can't believe he dropped Flamini!! FFS!!
Rino shouldn't be aywhere near that line-up!!!!
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Nov 27 2010, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Dracoris @ Nov 27 2010, 05:58 PM)  At least Allegri isn't predictable? It think he's very predictable, his infatuation with always playing Rino, making the same subs in every game and always at the exact same time.
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Nov 27 2010, 06:17 PM
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Seedorf is really not in this one
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Nov 27 2010, 06:30 PM
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Nesta looks very tired
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Nov 27 2010, 06:45 PM
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Nov 27 2010, 06:48 PM
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Decent first half, but we really look devoid of ideas going forward, Seedorf has been really struggling to get into it.
Nice play from Ibra and Robs for the goal though
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Nov 27 2010, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 27 2010, 06:50 PM)  Robinho has been great in this half.Ibra saved our asses again.
Dinho in the place of Seedorf,and Flamini instead of Gattuso.
We've been able to control the midfeild really well,especially with Ambrosini.Great half for him too.
Also,Abate is becoming better and consistent. Agree with you on all fronts
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Guest_Suhail 3_*
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Nov 27 2010, 07:01 PM
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I dont know if its just me but i love when robinho runs into spaces and dribbles around the opposition trying to engineer a chance, such a creative genius
great goal
Forza Milan
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Nov 27 2010, 07:06 PM
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Giuseppe Meazza, dopo aver visto la partita giocata in una bella, bella turchi e un ristorante italiano, se si vuole mangiare pulito e di alta qualità che ci si aspetta a PİZZA'ya ISTANBUL KEBAB Mamo. Dopo il match, perché tutti ci sarà. Indirizzo: il mercato di fronte Esselunga. Forze Armate strada, a 1,5 km dallo stadio Giuseppe Meazza. telefono: 02 3952 1492 ISTANBUL KEBAB PIZZA Mamo non ti fare.
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Nov 27 2010, 07:07 PM
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Dinho and Flamini warming up, hopefully coming on for Rino and Seedorf
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Nov 27 2010, 07:19 PM
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Bonera really messed up the offside trap
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Nov 27 2010, 07:22 PM
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Make the changes FFS
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Nov 27 2010, 07:27 PM
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Great save Abbiati
We're asking for it!!
Make the changes!!!
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