[han2503]

Must win. Hopefully Real do us a fovour and win against Ajax

[William405]

I'm interested to see for how long your streak will continue,more than the match honesty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .

[han2503]

I'm interested to see for how long your streak will continue,more than the match honesty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, I'd like to see this line-up

Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro
Flamini--Ambro--Boateng
Seedorf
Ibra-Robinho

If Pirlo is fit he should start ahead of Boateng.

[X-Offender]

Antonini instead of Zambro if possible.

[han2503]

Antonini instead of Zambro if possible.

Isn't Antonini injured? And I'd still play Zambro on one side no matter what. Either one of Abate/Antonini and Zambro on the opposite side

[X-Offender]

I don't like Zambrotta on the left. Last night he was one of our worst players. I hope Antonini gets back.

[CHU-LIP]

I don't like Zambrotta on the left. Last night he was one of our worst players. I hope Antonini gets back.

I don't like Antonini at all this season. Zambrotta even on the left I prefer over Antonini, I think. Abate is the certain (at least SHOULD be) starter IMO.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Nov 21 2010, 02:52 PM

[X-Offender]

My line-up:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T. Silva - Antonini
Flamini - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Seedorf
Robinho - Ibrahimovic

All I'm asking is no Gattuso.

[ForzaMaldini]

Ibra should be rested.

[X-Offender]

Ibra should be rested.

In a decisive game as this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[amancik]

This is my main worry. We can't rest Ibra because he's important for qualification. But we're risking him. Frankly, I don't care how we win this game. Be it like against Fiorentina and Inter where Ibra does his magic. It's because this game is too important for us to change anything at this moment unless we have Pato and Inzaghi.

[ForzaMaldini]

In a decisive game as this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

it's not decisive. We will survive the CL. But we cannot afford to lose points in the Serie A. He is very tired and now we're asking him to play 3 times a week

[han2503]

My line-up:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T. Silva - Antonini
Flamini - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Seedorf
Robinho - Ibrahimovic

All I'm asking is no Gattuso.

Isn't that everyone's wish? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Also Gazzetta have Pirlo out until week 14 which is the Samp game next weekend. You think he'll be ready for this one?

Ibra should be rested.

Sorry but that can't happen at this point, hopefully we close this one out quickly and Allegri brings on Dinho to replace him. Although I can't see Allegri taking Ibra off, he usually makes him play the whole 90 and takes off Robinho (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[X-Offender]

Also Gazzetta have Pirlo out until week 14 which is the Samp game next weekend. You think he'll be ready for this one?

I don't know, but if he can play, I doubt Allegri will keep him out as a precaution in such an important game as this one.

[han2503]

I don't know, but if he can play, I doubt Allegri will keep him out as a precaution in such an important game as this one.

Agreed there, hopefully he can play... If not Boateng better start (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

Pirlo: "I'm fine".

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=39278

[X-Offender]

Pirlo: "I'm fine".

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=39278

So, Pirlo will play against Auxerre, whilst Antonini won't be even called up. Hmmm...

[amancik]

Merkel is called up against Auxerre. He's probably only filling the numbers though. I'd be wonderful to seem him at least get a few minutes, but highly unlikely.

[X-Offender]

Pirlo not called up, Allegri will play the same midfield of Fiorentina i.e. in Gattuso, out Boateng. I'm thinking of getting back the anti-Allegri signature. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

Pirlo not called up, Allegri will play the same midfield of Fiorentina i.e. in Gattuso, out Boateng. I'm thinking of getting back the anti-Allegri signature. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Because he keeps playing Gattuso, though we are winning our matches? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Djeez...

[han2503]

Because he keeps playing Gattuso, though we are winning our matches? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Djeez...

We're winning in spite of that little fact. And thanks to Ibra (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[X-Offender]

We're winning in spite of that little fact. And thanks to Ibra (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bravo! We'd be much better with either Pirlo or Boateng instead of Rino.

[Zed.D]

Gattuso was one of the main reasons we beat Fiorentina.

[X-Offender]

Gattuso was one of the main reasons we beat Fiorentina.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Bluesummers]

you guys are too harsh on gattuso. Last year he was garbage but this year he's got his confidence back and he is doing well.

I think you guys have far too high of a standard set for gattuso.


Milan as a whole are performing well. We aren't entertaining but we are getting results and I guess thats what matters at the end of the day.


Though I gotta say Allegri for me has still a long way to go.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Nov 22 2010, 09:47 PM

[Boban10]

MILANELLO - Milan’s preparation for the match against Auxerre in Round 5 of the Champions League group stage came to end this morning as the team had its final training session, starting at 11.00 CET, before travelling to France.

The first part of the session was dedicated to the warm-up, which included some light running, sprints and stretching, as well as a series of exercises with the ball.

Coach Allegri then handed out the bibs to his players and had them work on tactics with the game against Jean Fernandez’s side in mind.
The practice ended with a match amongst the squad.

Antonini and Pirlo trained separately.
Oddo did running along the perimeter of one of the fields at Milanello.

At the end of the session, coach Allegri named his squad for the match against Auxerre, calling up the following players:

Abbiati, Amelia, Roma, Bonera, Jankulovski, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Abate, Ambrosini, Boateng, Flamini, Gattuso, Seedorf, Strasser, Merkel (n. 52); Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Ronaldinho.

Unavailable: Antonini, Oddo, Pirlo, Inzaghi, Pato.

The team’s flight to Auxerre is scheduled to take off at 16.30 CET at the Malpensa International Airport. Arrival in the French town is expected at around 17.40 CET.
Milan coach Massimiliano Allegri is holding his pre-game press conference at 18.30 CET at the Abbé-Deschamps Stadium, the venue of the match tomorrow

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130848

Nice to see Merkel being included, but again!!! no other striker? Are all the primavera strikers injured? I would have thought at least take one along, not to expect miracles from but incase of injury to be able to keep same formation/strategy, or just to give someone a rest 3/4 way through. And then, even, who knows what can happen when you throw an unknown (to the opposition team) into the fray. Just seems overly risky to only have three forwards!

Fingers crossed.

Forza Milan!

[X-Offender]

You're right, we should have called at least one of our primavera strikers. Look at Inter and Juventus, they've called (and played, too) people like Obi and Sorensen when they were short in defense and midfield. Wouldn't hurt for us to do the same. But if Robinho or Ibrahimovic were to get injured, Allegri will play Ronaldinho, so we still have someone who can replace them, even though he's not a proper striker.

[Dracoris]

Merkel could technically play striker too, I'd think.

[milanbuf88]

What exactly is Merkel's "best" position? Is he capable of playing a trequartista in relief of Seedorf after he gets tired?

[Bluesummers]

merkel is a mini seedorf. He's a pure AM. He can play all over midfield too though.

[milanbuf88]

merkel is a mini seedorf. He's a pure AM. He can play all over midfield too though.

Awesome. That's what I thought. I'd love to see him come in for Seedorf at around 75 mins when zee inevitably slows down. Ideally, by this time we will already be up a goal or two. I suppose I should first hope that Merkel even makes the bench.

[Fillipo Simone]

Coppa matches...that's when you'll see him.

[Zed.D]

No coach seems to want/be able to give these Primavera kids a proper chance. Carlo didn't. Leo didn't. Max isn't.

Something is wrong... maybe they're not all that good after all.

[Fillipo Simone]

That was my logic. It may have been false with Flamini, but I still stick with that reasoning.

[Bluesummers]

I think were underestimating the difficulty of the league.


18 in england is like 22 in Italy. I think thats how we gotta look at it.

These kids are not ready yet.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Nov 23 2010, 12:04 PM

[Boban10]

No coach seems to want/be able to give these Primavera kids a proper chance. Carlo didn't. Leo didn't. Max isn't.

Something is wrong... maybe they're not all that good after all.

Aye its strange, i thought it was just Carlo, but it has continued since he moved and he seems to be giving youth a chance at Chelsea. I guess its as Blue says.

[X-Offender]

I dunno, they performed rather decently in the summer games, especially in the Emirates Cup. I think Strasser and Verdi are ready for the first squad. The rest probably need some more time.

[han2503]

I think it's more Allegri being afraid, the guy is terrified of taking Ibra off when we're leading, that's why he plays 90 minutes in every game. And why he takes so long to even start getting players to warm up

[Jack Bauer]

AUXERRE: Sorin; Hengbart, Coulibaly, Grichting, Dudka; Oliech, Pedretti, Ndinga, Birsa; Contout; Sammaritano.


MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.

[vahid]

AUXERRE: Sorin; Hengbart, Coulibaly, Grichting, Dudka; Oliech, Pedretti, Ndinga, Birsa; Contout; Sammaritano.
MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.

IMO Ibra is gonna die if plays the whole match!

This post has been edited by vahid: Nov 23 2010, 08:05 PM

[X-Offender]

I think it's more Allegri being afraid, the guy is terrified of taking Ibra off when we're leading, that's why he plays 90 minutes in every game. And why he takes so long to even start getting players to warm up

Now now, you're making Allegri a chicken there. The guy has his complexities, but when it comes to courage, I have nothing to say to him. Benching Seedorf three times in a row and now Ronaldinho five times says everything.

[CrazyMilanFan]

AUXERRE: Sorin; Hengbart, Coulibaly, Grichting, Dudka; Oliech, Pedretti, Ndinga, Birsa; Contout; Sammaritano.
MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.

IMO Ibra is gonna die if plays the whole match!

i think a lot will depend on HT score

[Lumeci]

I would prefer ronaldinho over robinho and boateng over gattuso any day and I think that is our best formation, robino is preforming very bad loosing a lot of balls he was flop of the match against brasil and against fiorentina eand he still plays because he runs but we need a smart player like ronaldinho to create chances not just ruin oposites game and wait until ibra scores with ronie on the team we will have at leas 5 chances i guarantee that and without gatusa we are complet team couse with gatuso is like playing always 10 vs 11 when ever we have the ball its a big hendicap I dont know how cant u see that he is making fool of u gussys just couse he is runing and makes some stupoid tuckles and makes some gestures for the fansto go wild and everyone thinks he is trying hard but instead he iis the weakest point on our team. but what the f... my words are not counted so I just wanted to expres my opinion

[X-Offender]

Robinho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronaldinho

[Boban10]

I dunno, they performed rather decently in the summer games, especially in the Emirates Cup. I think Strasser and Verdi are ready for the first squad. The rest probably need some more time.

Aye i think you are right about those two def, also Merkel really impressed me at the summer. Hope Allegri seriously considers some game time in the Coppa for at least these three lads.

[han2503]

Now now, you're making Allegri a chicken there. The guy has his complexities, but when it comes to courage, I have nothing to say to him. Benching Seedorf three times in a row and now Ronaldinho five times says everything.

In terms of handling his players yes, but when it comes to making decisions during a match, I wouldn't say he has any courage in that respect. Also Dinho and Seedorf aren't going to make the big fuss that say Ibra or Robinho would make if they're benched for that ammount of games. Seedorf can be an egotistical @ss when he wants to be but he tries to take the high road on most occasion. Dinho also is not someone that talks smack to the press.

Robinho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronaldinho

I wouldn't go that far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

On current form it's Robs=Dinho Robinho just runs more and puts in more effort

[han2503]

Our only tactic is to play a long ball.. That midfield is really poor when it comes to actually doing something with the ball

[Jack Bauer]

Flamini should be more careful. His passing is off so far.

[CrazyMilanFan]

very poor challange by ambro

[han2503]

They're putting us under pressure, and we can't move the ball out of our half

[CrazyMilanFan]

any decent stream i have lost mine

[Coldest]

any decent stream i have lost mine

http://sport24.lt/embed/4661/1/auxerre-ac-milan.html/popup

the lithuanian one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[vnata001]

under allegri, we've had one of two midfields: one with slow, technical play or one with high work-rate and no technique. this guy really needs to find the balance, and we'd be great.

our defending is fine, but we're attacking 3 on 9!

This post has been edited by vnata001: Nov 23 2010, 09:18 PM

[CrazyMilanFan]

http://sport24.lt/embed/4661/1/auxerre-ac-milan.html/popup

the lithuanian one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

not connetcing to this aswell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[William405]

Awful and Frustrating.


Awesome sig vnata

This post has been edited by William405: Nov 23 2010, 09:20 PM

[han2503]

We have no control over that midfield. Real better do us a favour tonight

[CrazyMilanFan]

madrid 1-0 up against ajax

[vnata001]

Awesome sig vnata

thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[han2503]

Auxerre nearly score!

We're terrible!!!

[Zed.D]

Roma 0-2 Bayern

2 ridiculous goals, really...

[vnata001]

now this is just speculation, but i'm almost positive KPB would have put that on target...

[Jack Bauer]

Rino is so technically clueless...

[CrazyMilanFan]

rino could have done so much better

[han2503]

Oh what a miss by Rino!!!!

FFS!!!

[vnata001]

Ambro is going to get a yellow very shortly

[han2503]

Real score the 2nd

Now it's up to us on whether we can f this one up

[vnata001]

I really am pleased with Abate's improvement at the right back position.

[CrazyMilanFan]

madrid are 2-0 up we need to win today

[Jack Bauer]

Ambro was asking for it

[vnata001]

aaaaaand there it was. we need boateng on to do what flamini is trying to do, and for flamini to go over and do what gattuso is doing.

[han2503]

Ambro yellow. Was looking for it all game...

[Jack Bauer]

aaaaaand there it was. we need boateng on to do what flamini is trying to do, and for flamini to go over and do what gattuso is doing.

+1 but don't count on it at half time. Allegri will do it around 75-80 minute.

This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Nov 23 2010, 09:33 PM

[han2503]

Terrible first half from us. No build up, can't control the game are letting Auxerre get too much chances.

Bring in Dinho and Boateng in the 2nd half.

[CrazyMilanFan]

we need to win this somehow cant really comment on the gae bcoz have been searching for streams nearly for the entire half

[William405]

Very bad half imo.Allegri should have balls and change Gattuso with KPB.
It's really hard to break through our defense,but we aren't attacking at all.Something has to be done.

[Coldest]

I dont even expect to see Ronnie tonight...

[CrazyMilanFan]

I dont even expect to see Ronnie tonight...

why??

[Dracoris]

Boateng and Ronaldinho need to come in. 2 players hungry for success.

[Coldest]

why??

Because he is been sitting on the bench for five games...

[vnata001]

Terrible first half from us. No build up, can't control the game are letting Auxerre get too much chances.

Bring in Dinho and Boateng in the 2nd half.

Terrible may be a little drastic. Its not like we conceded, yet. We have not controlled proceedings by way of creating guilt edge chances, but the chances that they've gotten have been fortuitous, and haven't struck me as particularly deadly or clear cut. They're exactly the kind of half-chance opportunities you can't help but concede sometimes, but they haven't quite looked like scoring..

And boateng i agree with. if you mean dinho for seedorf, then perhaps - but i don't think dorf has been the problem. but dinho for robinho is a no-no. Ibra would then have two, withdrawn midfielders to drop the ball off to, and no1 other than flamini running past him into the box. Robinho plays higher up the field than Dinho. Taking him off for Dinho's withdrawn long-ball game would only isolate Ibra more.

[Protagonist]

Auxerre were very motivated in the first half, for them this is a dog fight for Europa League as such they are glaring their fangs at us.

But I think Allegri has finally got a formation that ticks, it still needs to gel well with Robinho. Abbiati and the defense as a whole have been superb; take Gigi as an example, he isn't as fast nor has he the physical mass to out beat whatever he faces on Auxerre's right flank, but he meets it with experience! The way he outmaneuvers the opposition and wins those technical fouls, now that was the Zambrotta of Juventus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

My assessment of the first half is that we contained them for 45 minutes, with the help of Abiatti and a fortress of a defense. Our midfield was aggressive and eager to bring Auxerre back down to earth. Yet our attack just cant click, Robinho has great work rate and I appreciate him running back to stop counters (something Ibrahimovic didn't bother to do), yet he isn't in-sync with the language the team was speaking.

[Lumeci]

u see what alegri is doing people he is much worst than lenoardo if lenardo had ibra and boateng in his team qe qould been playing the best football, and what i liked most couse he told gatusso find another club couse u have no clue in football, i think alegri is making us a team qho qill just run to defend e tu ruin oponnets game, u see how auxere looks superior to milan couse in midfiled is gatuso ambro who are not good with the ball if we change ronie with ambro and ronie to seedorfs plays and seedorf in ambro plays and change gatuso with boateng I belive that we will win

[han2503]

Terrible may be a little drastic. Its not like we conceded, yet. We have not controlled proceedings by way of creating guilt edge chances, but the chances that they've gotten have been fortuitous, and haven't struck me as particularly deadly or clear cut. They're exactly the kind of half-chance opportunities you can't help but concede sometimes, but they haven't quite looked like scoring..

And boateng i agree with. if you mean dinho for seedorf, then perhaps - but i don't think dorf has been the problem. but dinho for robinho is a no-no. Ibra would then have two, withdrawn midfielders to drop the ball off to, and no1 other than flamini running past him into the box. Robinho plays higher up the field than Dinho. Taking him off for Dinho's withdrawn long-ball game would only isolate Ibra more.

Ibra is already isolated. Also I'd dop Seedorf into that Pirlo role and play Dinho behind the strikers. We're really struggling to control the game, the chances they had only came because we kept losing the ball in our own half. Our only tactic consists of launching long balls, and maybe Seedorf playing in a ball if he's lucky enough to receive it in a decent position. Those 3 DMs are killing our entire game

Also what I saw was terrible, we're playing Auxerre, not Real. We've been seeing this same cr@p every week in Serie A but we managed to win the games thanks to Ibra. So far he hasn't pulled anything out of his @ss, so I can't see us winning with this system until he does that.

Thankfully Real are doing us a huge favour by winning, I really don't want to see us taking this into the last game

[Fillipo Simone]

Second half shows you the whole story. Milan keeping the ball but producing nothing, Auxerre waiting for a pacey counter strike.

[samira]

Ronaldinho warming up

[vnata001]

Ibra is already isolated. Also I'd dop Seedorf into that Pirlo role and play Dinho behind the strikers. We're really struggling to control the game, the chances they had only came because we kept losing the ball in our own half. Our only tactic consists of launching long balls, and maybe Seedorf playing in a ball if he's lucky enough to receive it in a decent position. Those 3 DMs are killing our entire game

Also what I saw was terrible, we're playing Auxerre, not Real. We've been seeing this same cr@p every week in Serie A but we managed to win the games thanks to Ibra. So far he hasn't pulled anything out of his @ss, so I can't see us winning with this system until he does that.

Thankfully Real are doing us a huge favour by winning, I really don't want to see us taking this into the last game

Ibra is already isolated, so is Robinho. I wouldn't disagree with putting Seedorf in the midfield and Dinho behind Robinho and Ibra, which would mean sacrificing 2 of our 3 defensive midfielders (if you include the Boateng substitution). I don't think such wholesale midfield changes, with our current manager, are likely to happen - even though I wouldn't disagree with them.

And Inter won the Scudetto several times with Ibra, playing in this crappy way. It is a proven, winning system (at least in Italy). Obviously in Europe it isn't...

[CrazyMilanFan]

we need to make some change nothing gonna work at this rate

[vnata001]

that defender knew that Abate was not going to shoot. He just stuck to Robinho the entire time, allowing Abate to waltz into the area, waiting for Abate to make that pass completely unconcerned that Abate would shoot.

Lesson: Abate needs to practice his shooting..

Allegri: 60th minute - make a change!

This post has been edited by vnata001: Nov 23 2010, 10:02 PM

[CrazyMilanFan]

that defender knew that Abate was not going to shoot. He just stuck to Robinho the entire time, allowing Abate to waltz into the area, waiting for Abate to make that pass completely unconcerned that Abate would shoot.

Lesson: Abate needs to practice his shooting..

where are u watching the game another steam gone

[vnata001]

where are u watching the game another steam gone

watching it on tv in the US - Fox Soccer Plus..sorry. nothing on atdhe.net or myp2p.eu?

[vnata001]

HAHAHAHA GOOD GOD. IBRACADABRA.

[CrazyMilanFan]

watching it on tv in the US - Fox Soccer Plus..sorry. nothing on atdhe.net or myp2p.eu?

nope nthing at all today everything goes off

[Boban10]

IBRA!!!!!! what a strike!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[han2503]

IBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Jack Bauer]

The giant strikes again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[han2503]

Exactly what I predicted! Ibra pulling magic out of his @ss

[CrazyMilanFan]

wow stream did work at teh rigth time for the rigfht moment wonderful strike

[vnata001]

Exactly what I predicted! Ibra pulling magic out of his @ss

our crappy system has produced a lead! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) no thanks to any build up, haha. Ibra makes something out of the scraps.

[Coldest]

No subs again ?

[vnata001]

No subs again ?

seedorf off for PRINCE.

this is clearly the formula Allegri is becoming very comfortable with..

This post has been edited by vnata001: Nov 23 2010, 10:19 PM