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post May 21 2009, 04:43 PM
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AC Milan vice president Adriano Galliani said Thursday that the club's coaching situation could be clarified as early as Monday if a spot in next season's Champions League has been secured.

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti has been linked to possible moves to Chelsea, AS Roma and Real Madrid in the offseason, while Marco van Basten and Luciano Spalletti are rumored to be front-runners for the San Siro job.

"I hope to be able to say something on Monday, because then we would have qualified directly," Galliani told the club Web site.

Galliani insisted that he had not spoken to anyone else about the coaching job.

"We have never thought about any coach and we shall leave it till the end of the season and then we will see," he said. "At Milan there's no chaos. We have clear ideas and we will communicate them at the end of the season."

Ancelotti has regularly denied that he is leaving Milan, insisting that he has a contract with the club until 2010.
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post May 21 2009, 05:33 PM
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Today, all the rumors say it'll be Van Basten.
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 21 2009, 05:33 PM) *
Today, all the rumors say it'll be Van Basten.

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Meh again. Now Mediaset's claiming it'll be Leonardo. The stories seem to change by the hour.
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A big no to Tassotti, Leonardo and anyone else with no significant coaching experience! I'll keep believing it'll be Rijkaard, but I wouldn't mind van Basten and Spalletti at all.

It's an almost sure thing, in case Carlo leaves, Milan will not have stability in that position for a couple of years. I think a few coaches will have to tried so the club finds the best one for the job. so it's not a case of 'new coach named X for 8 years'.
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Well, if Milan beat Roma on Sunday, the suspense will probably be over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) At least that's what the most recent articles state.
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I hope so. the Sun had written that Chelsea wanted to announce the name of their new coach on May 30 (or so). who knows if Ancelotti is being released sooner that expected so he can be made the new Chelsea coach without any problem?
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post May 21 2009, 09:00 PM
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I think he'll still coach the last game at Fiorentina but if Milan mathematically clinch CL participation by winning the Roma game, I can see the announcement being made then.
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Hmm, any chance Prandelli is being mentioned?

Personally I'm not a fan of Van Basten, we'd still be in the same predicament with him.

Regarding Tassotti and Leonardo, neither is good enough as a long term replacement, Leonardo has no experiance and Tassotti is not head coach material. Sre they would be ok if this was an end of the season sort of deal, but not to start a new season with them.

Personally I think that Tossotti should also be released, we need fresh faces in that area.
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post May 21 2009, 10:37 PM
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I have no problem at all with an inexperienced coach. Sacchi, Capello and Ancelotti (Milan's most successful coaches in the Berlusconi era) were all nobodys when they joined us!
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ADRIANO GALLIANI: "Carlo Ancelotti has a contract with Milan until June 30 2010"

5/21/2009

MILAN - Soon the declarations of Adriano Galliani will be online. After the inauguration of a new department in the Children's Hospital, the Rossoneri's director responded to some questions also in Lega Calcio: "We did not think about other coaches, Carlo Ancelotti is our coach and has a contract until June 30 2010."


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Can't wait to hear the announcement on Sunday!

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 22 2009, 12:30 AM) *
I think he'll still coach the last game at Fiorentina but if Milan mathematically clinch CL participation by winning the Roma game, I can see the announcement being made then.

Of course. he could sign for Chelsea but also lead Milan in it's final game of the season.

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I have no problem at all with an inexperienced coach. Sacchi, Capello and Ancelotti (Milan's most successful coaches in the Berlusconi era) were all nobodys when they joined us!

Almost 2 decades have passed since Sacchi and Capello took over at Milan. football was different back then. and Carlo wasn't really a nobody. having finished as runner up 3 times before joining Milan, he was more an 'almost' man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Someone already edited Wikipedia and put Carlo as current Chelsea manager.
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post May 21 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 22 2009, 02:27 AM) *
Someone already edited Wikipedia and put Carlo as current Chelsea manager.

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ON ANCELOTTI'S FUTURE

"In the dressing room the voices on Carlo Ancelotti's future create no problems because there's been talk of a possible departure of his for a long time. Certainly these voices disappoint us, but at the moment we are all concentrated on Sunday's match against Roma, including the coach himself. Let's wait, on Monday we will know everything.
Personally I try not to say anything, there's a lot of speculation, but again, let's wait.
For me Ancelotti remains the best coach Milan could have, the team is happy with him and he is able to handle the dressing room like no one else.

"Juventus have brought in Ferrara, this means they want to give space to a new generation of coaches, it doesn't revalue Italian football. If Milan decided to aim for an emerging coach, it would also an opportunity for us to have a new cycle of young coaches.
In the past Milan have had many cycles of coaches and players, but always with the same president and the same management: this means that certainly there will be another winning cycle.
Just look at the positive example of Guardiola, no one expected much from him because he had only coached the B team of Barcelona, he brought the team into the Champions League final.
Van Basten? I would be happy to be coached by someone like him who made Milan's history. Tassotti? He's been us for many years and after winning so much he has made up a certain experience."


Now this is the most obvious hint yet that Carlo could leave.
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post May 21 2009, 11:20 PM
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Should Milan coach change, it would definitely be something new for me, I haven't know Milan without Carlo.
I mean I am aware of their past and everything, but I only began backing Ancelotti's Milan.
I'd have to admit big changes like this do worry me. I'd would really just prefer if Carlo could roll back the years a bit and quit being so damn sturbon (tactical-wise) and remain our coach, but realistically, this isn't going to happen. And you have to think with the way things are going, its likely that Carlo will no longer be here for next season.

Maybe its for the best, maybe a change would be best for Milan and Carlo as well.
What ever happens I would always be very grateful for what Carlo has brought this club (as we all should be...), and I hope that who ever is to take over from him eventually would create a bond as strong the one Carlo had with our players.
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post May 21 2009, 11:41 PM
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Looks like I'll have to keep the champagne on ice for a little while longer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 21 2009, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 22 2009, 12:52 AM) *
Almost 2 decades have passed since Sacchi and Capello took over at Milan. football was different back then. and Carlo wasn't really a nobody. having finished as runner up 3 times before joining Milan, he was more an 'almost' man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Football has not changed all that much... just look at Guardiola.

In my opinion a coach's role is overrated. Nowadays all coaches have studied a lot on tactics and there are no surprises in that aspect. The most important quality a coach needs to possess these days is man management skills. The perfect example is Mourinho. Whatever he does tactically I have seen before, he has done nothing in that aspect that makes him a great tactician in my opinion. Even if you disagree with me on that I think you will agree on something else; he is not as successful as he is because of his tactical skills but more because of his man management skills.

My opinion is that with a great squad, any coach that knows the basics, is not too stubborn (every coach is stubborn more or less but if, for example, you play Seedorf week in week out you are TOO stubborn), and most importantly has control over the dressing room as a coach and not as a friend can succeed.

That's what I think our next coach should have: good man-management skills!
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ May 21 2009, 06:41 PM) *
Looks like I'll have to keep the champagne on ice for a little while longer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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QUOTE (dst @ May 21 2009, 06:46 PM) *
That's what I think our next coach should have: good man-management skills!

Not sure if this is the only thing, but I definitely agree with you on that.
A good relationship with a team is so crucial!

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post May 22 2009, 12:30 AM
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i want a coach with attitutde, flair and experience. Was hoping for Rijkaard attacking-football but i honestly think MVB gets the nod.
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post May 22 2009, 07:12 AM
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Gotta agree with DST here. I'm becoming a coach and I'm studying all the stuff the top coaches around europe are studying for their lisences so its not like theres secret information. Everyone knows the same things regarding tactics. There is no such thing as the term a great tactican because everyone has access to the same info.

What makes you world class is your man management skills and your intuition. The brilliant strokes that carlo used to do would win us many games. He is a shadow of his former self. Perhaps he himself has grown tired of us as we have of him.



I'd be happy with mvb or rijkaard. But i'm going to say its going to be mvb.

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post May 22 2009, 08:32 AM
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Football has not changed all that much... just look at Guardiola.

In my opinion a coach's role is overrated. Nowadays all coaches have studied a lot on tactics and there are no surprises in that aspect. The most important quality a coach needs to possess these days is man management skills. The perfect example is Mourinho. Whatever he does tactically I have seen before, he has done nothing in that aspect that makes him a great tactician in my opinion. Even if you disagree with me on that I think you will agree on something else; he is not as successful as he is because of his tactical skills but more because of his man management skills.

My opinion is that with a great squad, any coach that knows the basics, is not too stubborn (every coach is stubborn more or less but if, for example, you play Seedorf week in week out you are TOO stubborn), and most importantly has control over the dressing room as a coach and not as a friend can succeed.

That's what I think our next coach should have: good man-management skills!


As much as want to believe that, I can't. at Barca there weren't many players who'd won everything there is to win out there. just as Pep said, most of it is down to the players not him. they were hungry, they fought and they earned success. at Milan, it's totally different. we have too many unmotivated winners/champions. I can't see how a young coach with zero experience can handle it. he benches the currently regular Mr. X or Y and a mutiny will happen in the locker room. if he continues Carlo's way, the team won't get anywhere. it's not easy. yes, someone like Billy would be good choice as far as man management skills are concerned as he's a charismatic figure. but Tassotti...? Leonardo...? even the Primavera coach Galli? I don't think so. unless there's going to be an overhaul in the squad which I can't see happening.

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QUOTE (Channel4)
Blog: Is Van the man?

With Carlo Ancelotti’s future at Milan still a point of debate, Dave Taylor excludes Marco Van Basten as a possible successor

Reports that Milan are considering the appointment of Marco Van Basten as their new Coach, should Carlo Ancelotti move on, just won’t go away. Especially after some of the club’s hierarchy had nothing but kinds words to say about the one-time Flying Dutchman who recently walked out on Ajax.

The former Rossoneri hero was admittedly a giant on the field of play and a true calcio legend, scoring a phenomenal 90 goals in almost 150 games for the club. However, as the old adage warns us, a great player does not necessarily make a great Coach.

His managerial record certainly doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. As Holland boss his side were dumped out of the 2006 World Cup by Portugal in their first true test at the last 16 stage. Two years later at Euro 2008, despite a couple of good games against Italy and France, he was totally outthought by Russia’s Guus Hiddink in the quarter-finals.

His lack of experience, especially when being considered for a massive European club like Milan, should immediately count against him. He certainly showed his shortcomings after leaving the international stage at Ajax last summer.

On his arrival the fans felt it was the start of a new winning era. They soon changed their mind. They were eliminated from the Dutch Cup by lowly Volendam and suffered several embarrassing defeats, including reverses to Heerenveen and PSV who put five and six past them respectively.

Let’s face it, outside the top three most Dutch First Division teams would have a hard time matching a majority of Serie B clubs. So why do those at Via Turati think he is good enough to boss their team? The fans are certainly split and there seems little doubt that the players prefer Carlo.

I personally feel that Marco is not a great leader of men and his reputation for being detached and uncaring is hardly likely to enamour him to the players either. I loved him as a player, but he has it all to prove as a Coach.
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post May 22 2009, 11:01 AM
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Dutch league or the international stage does not equal milan or the italian league.


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Milan's Ancelotti Will Take Seedorf To Chelsea If He Goes There - Jose Altafini

The Italo-Brazilian legend believes Seedorf is certain to leave Milan and follow Ancelotti to Chelsea if the coach signs for them this summer...

Milan legend Jose Altafini believes coach Carlo Ancelotti will take Clarence Seedorf with him to Chelsea if he joins the Blues this summer.

Speculation regarding the coach's future at the San Siro remains rife. Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed that he would announce the club's plans regarding the bench on Monday.

Ancelotti has been linked with the Chelsea post since last year, but neither club has made any official announcement. Although 'Carletto's' future remains unclear, Altafini, who enjoyed great success with Milan during his prime, is certain that Seedorf will follow his coach to west London if he does eventually join Chelsea.

"If Ancelotti goes to Chelsea, then he will take at least one player with him," Altafini told Sky Sport Italia.

"I think he will certainly take Seedorf with him to Chelsea because he is a player liked by many, including Ancelotti.

"In addition, if [Marco] Van Basten takes over at Milan, Seedorf doesn't get along with him, and so this could be another factor."

The coach has one year left on his current deal at San Siro, but he is being hotly tipped to take over from Guus Hiddink by English and Italian media reports.


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Another big issue with Van Basten.

Seedorf and him don't get along, I personally don't blame Van Basten because Seedorf can be a real tool if things don't go his way, and I'de be so happy seeing Seedorf slug his way every week through premiership matches.

But I don't want us to have any problems when it comes to the coach and the players. Again, Rijkaard or Prandelli would be far better in all aspects when comparing them to Van Basten. He's simply not a good tactician, and neither is he a good man manager
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 22 2009, 04:19 PM) *
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Milan's Ancelotti Will Take Seedorf To Chelsea If He Goes There - Jose Altafini

The Italo-Brazilian legend believes Seedorf is certain to leave Milan and follow Ancelotti to Chelsea if the coach signs for them this summer...

Milan legend Jose Altafini believes coach Carlo Ancelotti will take Clarence Seedorf with him to Chelsea if he joins the Blues this summer.

Speculation regarding the coach's future at the San Siro remains rife. Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed that he would announce the club's plans regarding the bench on Monday.

Ancelotti has been linked with the Chelsea post since last year, but neither club has made any official announcement. Although 'Carletto's' future remains unclear, Altafini, who enjoyed great success with Milan during his prime, is certain that Seedorf will follow his coach to west London if he does eventually join Chelsea.

"If Ancelotti goes to Chelsea, then he will take at least one player with him," Altafini told Sky Sport Italia.

"I think he will certainly take Seedorf with him to Chelsea because he is a player liked by many, including Ancelotti.

"In addition, if [Marco] Van Basten takes over at Milan, Seedorf doesn't get along with him, and so this could be another factor."

The coach has one year left on his current deal at San Siro, but he is being hotly tipped to take over from Guus Hiddink by English and Italian media reports.



Lol , that would solve all problems . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ May 21 2009, 11:53 PM) *


...to celebrate when carlo leaves (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 22 2009, 12:30 PM) *
Again, Rijkaard or Prandelli would be far better in all aspects when comparing them to Van Basten. He's simply not a good tactician, and neither is he a good man manager

Give Van Basten a few more years in managing, but agreed, Rijkaard has had a big job before did fairly well and I think he would be the obvious replacement.
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Jose Mourinho Reiterates Carlo Ancelotti To Chelsea Stance

Having already predicted that Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti, will wind up at Chelsea, Inter's Jose Mourinho has expanded upon his prediction.

In fact, he now claims to have inside information which confirms 'Carletto' as Guus Hiddink's summer successor.

"My friends at Chelsea tell me it will be Carlo," 'Mou' told Sky Italia.

"Some [Chelsea] players are asking me the typical question: 'Gaffer, will he be good for us, do you think it will be positive?'

"I responded that he seems to me to be a very well prepared coach, very close to his players who can create an atmosphere of great empathy with his players."

The former Blues tactician then predicted that his Rossoneri rival can make the transition to west London and Stamford Bridge, despite fears to the contrary, but only if he takes things in his stride.

"He could adapt," Mourinho said. "He [will have] a group of players who are waiting for a good coach in order to win, because it is a squad that wants to win.

"If Carlo goes or not, it is his problem. I will wish him all the best.

"And if he asks for my opinion, I will tell him that with these players, with this club, he should not think too much because it is a great adventure."

Mourinho's words will have added new weight to the recent rumours.


Yeah he's gone. Usually Mourinho doesn't say stuff like this if it were not true. He is probably celebrating in private (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Newest rumours from Milan suggest that AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti will remain and soon extend his contract until June 2012.

TMW reported this.



Mourinho says he is gone as well as other top members of football, however the press reports something different. At this point we'll just have to wait as there has been zero information to go upon other than opinions and faulty speculation.
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It could be another stupid show similar to the Kaka-to-City one, orchestrated by Silvio and Galliani. Carlo staying is one thing (and it's fair enough since he has a contract), extending his contract at this point for two more seasons is another, a dumb move.
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On Sunday, after their match with Roma, it is expected that a delegation of the team, led by Adriano Galliani and some of the players, will go to Silvio Berlusconi to convince him that Ancelotti is the right man for the job.

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On Sunday, after their match with Roma, it is expected that a delegation of the team, led by Adriano Galliani and some of the players, will go to Silvio Berlusconi to convince him that Ancelotti is the right man for the job.


I'll be surprised if Seedorf doesn't campaign his *** off for this one, as he's got the most to lose if Carlo leaves.
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Milan To Keep Carlo Ancelotti At The Helm – Report

After weeks of speculation, a report in Italy suggests that Ancelotti will remain with the Rossoneri rather than join Chelsea during the summer transfer window.

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti seems to be set to stay with his current club, according to Notiziarioitaliano.it, who claim that the Rossoneri have confirmed the tactician as their boss for next season.

According to these reports, Milan have reached a last-minute agreement with the former Juventus coach. Apparently Ancelotti told vice president Adriano Galliani on Friday that he wants to continue sitting on the Milan bench.

Ancelotti has been intensely linked to Chelsea over the past few weeks, with the English media adamant that he is set to sign for the Blues.

The main objective of Ancelotti and the Rossoneri is to end the season in second place as they hold a three point lead over Juventus and sit four points above Fiorentina with only two Serie A games of the season remaining.


So... let's see, if he stays, same old story with the formations and tatics, favoritism towards some individuals and snubbing youngsters and youth products in favor of has-been superstars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) plus that Gourcuff won't return. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ah god, I hope this is not true.
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Who?

So some little-known site has confirmed this before acmilan.com. Yeah, right.
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I hope we win tomororw and he announces his departure.
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I hope we win tomororw and he announces his departure.

I think that's a more likely scenario if we lose or draw! but I don't want it to happen even if it means Carlo will stay. this is Maldini's last home game, no way anyone would want anything less that a dominating victory.

Carlo's time is up. it's a matter of time before a new coach is brought in. if they decide not to let him go now, then they'll have to do it next season. that I'm pretty sure of!
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Nice show, Berlo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) at least bring some good players so he can do something better than losing the title race in February or getting eliminated by Bremen and Lazio quality teams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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“Until June 30 2010, I’m the Milan coach. I know how the things are, I don’t see any fog, I see everything very clear. If I had to express myself in percentages, I would say that I would remain at Milan at 100% also next year. There was a very good feeling with the team, after eight years we’re still here talking, especially with the club, if it wasn’t so a coach would not last in Italy for that much. I repeat, I’m very calm, my preoccupations are others. I study English for the past two years because it helps me when I go on holiday abroad.”


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from what i understood he will like to stay but i think silvio has decided to let him go so he could be leaving this year or next no idea abt that
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I'm not sure. I'd keep him if we don't have better solutions under the table then Leonardo or MvB. I mean, gee, Leonardo can be appointed right now as a assist-coach or something like that,...
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 24 2009, 10:49 PM) *
I'm not sure. I'd keep him if we don't have better solutions under the table then Leonardo or MvB. I mean, gee, Leonardo can be appointed right now as a assist-coach or something like that,...

At this point letting Carlo stay will do more harm then getting the most unexperianced coach there is.

We've gotten to a point where changing coach is the only solution. Carlo is not effective anymore, he's gone stale. We need the change desperately.

Hopefully after the Fiorentina match Galliani will make the announcment.

Next season should signal change coming from Milan. Paolo retiring, Carlo leaving, making changes in the squad...
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+1 @ han

It's no longer a case of 'let's stick to Carlo', I think we will part ways with him at the end of the season, 100%.
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New rumours are Leonardo and Tassotti as manager and assistant with carlo and Galli going to chelsea.
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I think it's more than a rumor. looks like it's all done and dusted.
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I think it's more than a rumor. looks like it's all done and dusted.

Hopefully not.

Leonardo would only be good for an interim role. But not as a permanent solution.

I only want to hear of 3 coaches the management are interested in

-Spalletti
-Rijkaard
-Prandelli

All the others mentioned are either not good enough, or not experianced enough. I really hope that the management don't make a bad decision when it comes to choosing the coach, making a bad transfer decision when it comes to buying a player is one thing, but when it comes to the coaching decision it will really decide how the season turns out.

I personally would like to see what Leonardo could do, I think he has all the right characteristics to be a great coach but has no experiance, it would be better if he would go to a smaller Serie A side before taking over at Milan
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IMO there is no good solution or a deal our management could do that would please us or ensure us. Trapattoni, Lippi and Capello, managers who's class is proven and I think would be up to the test are all unavaible. After 2010 this situation could change.

Spalletti and Prandelli are good - one of them could join Juve (if not Conte or Ferrara as permanent), the other (CP) will most likely stay for at least one more season. Both still did not do anything that sensational; Spalletti's Roma was good, but never had the strenght nor that special "fingerspitzengefühl" - and they both never played for Milan which still is a minus to me.

Frank Rijkaard is something in between - he had his up's with Holland and especially Barcelona, he won the CL which isn't that easy to do; he also had bad periods with dutch teams, but never like MvB with ambitious and strong teams.

Then we have a bunch of homies, like Leonardo, Galli, Tassotti, Costacurta, etc. From those I'd pick Tassotti because I know he's a specialist for defensive training and he'd sure make some adjustments in that field. On the other hand, he's already here with us, so one could ask, why didn't he implement those same adjustments sooner? I don't think Ancelotti is that kind of manager who rejects ideas from his assistants.

I'd also consider Franco Baresi for sentimental reasons, because he's our past captain and symbol, and since we've lost Milan's God, Paolo (who never would manage Milan as coach), he could be a nice add for the new transitive generation, just till the new signings improve and settle while Kaka, Pirlo and co. settle finally as "veteran status players".
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So... Mediaset keeps insisting that Leonardo is the next Milan coach. until yesterday they said it was going to be Leonardo and Tassotti, with Galli following Carlo to London. but now they say Galli will remain to help with bringing up youth players (which is very good if true).

I still have doubts over Leonardo (as a coach), but a coaching team consisting of Leonardo, Tassotti and Galli could actually work...
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I'm not a fan of coach-conglomerates or such like solutions. We need a extra motivator. Tassotti and Galli sure cannot do that; if Leonardo can...maybe, but very questionable. After such a professional like Ancelotti, Leonardo will really be a major set-back.
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I'm not a fan of coach-conglomerates or such like solutions. We need a extra motivator. Tassotti and Galli sure cannot do that; if Leonardo can...maybe, but very questionable. After such a professional like Ancelotti, Leonardo will really be a major set-back.


That's funny cause I think one of Carlo's weak points is that he cannot motivate the players anymore...
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Carlo did say i want to stay but i think that was just to keep the players chins and heads up high for the last few games

the rumour mill is too strong and ive been waiting and expecting him to exit and confirm hes leaving for a while now

carlo is history in my opinion come end of the season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) in no way is that disrespect hes won us every trophy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) we wanted

but i think its just time for a change 10 years later
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Saying professional I did mean every aspect, not just the motivation. And yes, maybe Carlo fails to motivate them now. But he did succeed to find a motivation line longer then most of the other coaches I watched on such a high-level, with the same/very similar team selection. I doubt Leonardo will have longer motivation power for a few matches - that's why he's an interim solution, not a serious deal.
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Why not sign Rijkaard. I dont understand why he is not considered. He is the best option available right now.
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I wish we get a clueless and a loser coach, so that he comes and makes us great again, just like Arrigo the shoe salesman, Carlo the Silver Man or Capello the Newbie.

I want Van Basten.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Good point Hasan!

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 26 2009, 01:51 AM) *
Saying professional I did mean every aspect, not just the motivation. And yes, maybe Carlo fails to motivate them now. But he did succeed to find a motivation line longer then most of the other coaches I watched on such a high-level, with the same/very similar team selection. I doubt Leonardo will have longer motivation power for a few matches - that's why he's an interim solution, not a serious deal.

I thought you were specifically talking about motivation. I agree Carlo possessed all those qualities, but I also think as time passed by he lost some of it, especially the ability to motivate them champions for Regginas and Lecces games... we badly struggled against these two teams, who are in Serie B now, both in the first and the second round of the season. some say we didn't have everyone available, I say we had more than enough quality to beat such teams, only lacked the motivation to do it...

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...the motivation problem is bigger then Carlo. I'm in a point were I dare saying that it's possible we never will solve this problem; the Maldini game is one example. Just the sole match should have been enough, with or without "the idiot" Carlo to be motivated 100%. But again - NO!
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Report: Andriy Shevchenko Mediated Carlo Ancelotti’s Move To Chelsea
‘Sheva’ has done precious little to help Ancelotti’s cause this season, however, the Ukrainian was instrumental in brokering the coach’s switch to the Premier League.

Andriy Shevchenko may have been a flop on the football field with Milan this season, but it seems he could find employment in his life after football as a translator. La Gazzetta dello Sport claims he played a crucial role as a mediator in the meetings between Rossoneri coach Carlo Ancelotti and Chelsea supremo Roman Abramovich
Ancelotti remains hotly linked to the Premier League outfit and the 49-year-old is widely expected to bring the curtain down on his Rossoneri career next weekend, regardless of the result of a crucial Serie A match with Fiorentina.

The Diavoli have to avoid defeat by more than two goals at the Stadio Franchi to clinch an automatic Champions League berth.

‘Carletto’ is seemingly headed for west London and it has now emerged that it all started back in March, when Blues chief Roman Abramovich approached the tactician to test his commitment to the Diavoli.

The Russian tycoon had publicly attempted to take the former Juventus boss to Stamford Bridge last summer, although he got no change out of the trainer. Therefore, he kept things under wraps this time around and opted to use a ‘trojan horse’ - Andriy Shevchenko - rather than an outside intermediary.

The Ukrainian, who is on loan at the San Siro from Chelsea, has barely featured this term, but La Gazzetta dello Sport claims he played an important translating role in meetings.

Ancelotti, who is tied to the Rossoneri until 2010, is expected to pen a three-year deal with Chelsea worth €5 million per season until June 2012.

Vince Masiello, Goal.com


Bravo Sheva!!!!
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 27 2009, 12:09 AM) *
...the motivation problem is bigger then Carlo. I'm in a point were I dare saying that it's possible we never will solve this problem; the Maldini game is one example. Just the sole match should have been enough, with or without "the idiot" Carlo to be motivated 100%. But again - NO!


I agree that sometimes they appear to lack motivation. I just don't know why you bring up the Roma game. The players looked motivatied enough to me, we may have lost, but we didn't play as bad as people would like to make it. We did have loads of chances, far more than Roma. It's not like you miss chances, make silly free kicks etc. because you lack motivation.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 27 2009, 01:09 AM) *
...the motivation problem is bigger then Carlo. I'm in a point were I dare saying that it's possible we never will solve this problem; the Maldini game is one example. Just the sole match should have been enough, with or without "the idiot" Carlo to be motivated 100%. But again - NO!

There are players that are constantly playing at 50%... Seedorf, Pirlo and Kaka just don't do what they are supposed to do. When the coach is not showing them they should do more (and the only way to do so is to bench them) then that's how they'll keep playing. Maybe it's not possible to get them motivated but we don't know if that's true because Ancelotti has NEVER tried!

QUOTE (GonzZo @ May 27 2009, 02:49 AM) *
I agree that sometimes they appear to lack motivation. I just don't know why you bring up the Roma game. The players looked motivatied enough to me, we may have lost, but we didn't play as bad as people would like to make it. We did have loads of chances, far more than Roma. It's not like you miss chances, make silly free kicks etc. because you lack motivation.

You really think they were motivated against Roma? I certainly do no agree.
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Motivation or not we need carlo gone. We need to shed the deadwood on our team and we need to do it immediately.
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Milan Coach Carlo Ancelotti Reveals Secret Chelsea Meetings

The Italian tactician has described two cloak-and-dagger style meetings with Blues owner Roman Abramovich...

According to a report in the British tabloid The Sun, Milan head coach Carlo Ancelotti has revealed that he considered becoming Chelsea manager after holding private talks with their owner Roman Abramovich last year.

There has been plenty of speculation that the Italian tactician will succeed interim boss Guus Hiddink at Stamford Bridge this summer.

The Rossoneri were due to announce their head coach for the 2009-10 campaign on Monday, but decided to delay the decision until after the Serie A season finishes at the weekend.

While Ancelotti is yet to have signed a contract with the west London club, he has intimated, in his book ‘Preferisco La Coppa’, that he has been seriously considering switching to the Premier League club since two separate secret meetings.

"The manager of Milan is on a secret mission. I am on my own like 007. Sat behind a driver with the face of a killer," Ancelotti notes in his book.

"I'm already in Paris going to Roman Abramovich, the owner of Chelsea - who's looking for a new manager.

"We've already seen each other once, a couple of weeks ago. In Switzerland, in a big hotel in Geneva. I don't remember the name.

"Everything was organised by Charlie Stillitano, a friend from the US who works in football. He knows Peter Kenyon, the executive hand of Abramovich at Chelsea, who has expressed the wish to meet me.

"I was on holiday relaxing after the bitterness of failing to qualify for the Champions League with Milan.

"Abramovich came after me; it's a good sign but how many bodyguards!

"They are the ones who accompanied me to the Big Chief and to Kenyon. Their team was completed by a lawyer and an interpreter.

"We sat down and greeted each other cordially and started to talk. Always about football and only football. Abramovich wanted to know everything about me, my way of working, my philosophy.

"He was and is still looking for a team with a precise identity: 'Like Manchester United, Liverpool, Milan, certainly not like my Chelsea.'

"While he was talking, my curiosity perked up. He wasn't the monster that papers painted him to be.

"The first thing I noticed was his timidity. The second his great knowledge of football. The third his hunger, his bulimia: 'Dear Ancelotti, I want to win everything. Everything.'

"An hour flew by during which we never talked about money."

Ancelotti then describes a second meeting in Paris, in which he is said to describe seeing Roma head coach Luciano Spalletti, although he does not mention his name.

"So here we are. The George V in Paris. Me and Abramovich, Act Two," Ancelotti continued.

"Yesterday, a few minutes away from here, Massimo Moratti met Jose Mourinho. I didn't want to have the same end. The road is free, nobody suspicious, I can enter.

"I bump into a dear colleague and friend. I laugh, 'What are you doing here?' 'No, what are you doing?' I laugh again.

"I feel like I'm in a supermarket. Everyone here to talk to this chairman, and maybe we're on his shopping list.

"I go to meet him one floor up. He's waiting in a conference room and has the same people he had in Geneva around the table.

"I immediately make one thing clear, ‘I have a contract with Milan. An eventual agreement with Chelsea can only happen if Milan is also in agreement.'

"Again we only talked football. How would I make Chelsea play in case they got me as a manager.

"President, your team is very physical, you have to put more quality in the middle of the pitch. I gave him two names, Franck Ribery and Xabi Alonso.

"He thought of a third name, that of Andriy Shevchenko, who was close to his heart, ‘I can't understand why he's not playing, because since we brought him to England he's not the real Sheva.'

"President, I can't know the reason. We talk some more. I can easily chat with Abramovich. He doesn't make me feel uncomfortable, not even when he says with a low voice, 'We've just lost the Champions League final, and the league, I can't be satisfied.

"'Chelsea don't have a personality. I have the ambition of winning every competition in which my team takes part, a team that at the moment I don't recognise.'

"He thinks so much about the results and the beautiful game. Another 40 minutes fly by. 'Thanks Ancelotti, we'll meet again.' No financial offer."

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He won't last long at Chelsea. He may be good in Europe, but he won't last long enough to show it. Scolari got the boot while still being in the Champions League for being a poor league manager.
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Once Carlo goes, I for one wouldn't care if he did or did not succeed at Chelsea... Milan is the most important thing.
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What Pep did is remarkable. I hope we do away with the current manager and a couple of players like Pep did and get young fresh blood even if we dont win anything next season, at least we have not won for 2 seasons.
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According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Leonardo is the new Milan coach and will be announced on Monday, the day after the delicate and decisive clash against Fiorentina, while current boss Carlo Ancelotti will be joining Chelsea, as widely speculated in the past weeks.

This means that the former Brazil star will move from behind the desk to the bench, with Mauro Tassotti being his assistant coach and Filippo Galli being offered the possibility of directing the youth sector.

The Rossoneri are also flirting with the idea of adding a new member to the technical staff: the tactician.

The chosen person would study the upcoming opponents extensively so that he could then report to Leonardo.

Another change involves the medical sector, where Professor Meersemann will not follow the first team anymore following the advice of Leonardo to Adriano Galliani.

Milan Lab will be modified under the structure and organisation profile, whereas Daniele Tognaccini will be confirmed as responsible for the physical preparation.

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post May 29 2009, 04:11 PM
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post May 29 2009, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 29 2009, 10:11 AM) *
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Good to "see" you too buddy.
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Better than MVB, but does Leonardo have what it takes to motivate the team for an ENTIRE season?
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 29 2009, 01:08 PM) *
Better than MVB, but does Leonardo have what it takes to motivate the team for an ENTIRE season?

I guess we could possibly find out... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ May 29 2009, 06:52 PM) *
Good to "see" you too buddy.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hang around a little bit more, will you?

QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 29 2009, 08:38 PM) *
Better than MVB, but does Leonardo have what it takes to motivate the team for an ENTIRE season?


If he's going to continue with the exact same players, probably no! but I believe he will make some changes and replace unmotivated/finished players with young and willing ones. or at least I hope that's what he's gonna do...
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post May 29 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (MizNelson @ May 29 2009, 06:08 PM) *
Better than MVB, but does Leonardo have what it takes to motivate the team for an ENTIRE season?

I don't think so. I'm against such risky choices. It's offending in a way. I mean, does this guy even have a coach-license?
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If he did have a license, it'd be alright with you?
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our attack next year.



Pato Kerrision Neymar Ronaldinho Kaka Robinho (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 29 2009, 11:54 PM) *
our attack next year.



Pato Kerrision Neymar Ronaldinho Kaka Robinho (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

How can you like something like that?!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) there are limits...
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 29 2009, 09:02 PM) *
If he did have a license, it'd be alright with you?

No. This license question is just (a symbolic) top of the iceberg.
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 29 2009, 09:24 PM) *
Pato Kerrision Neymar Ronaldinho Kaka Robinho (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) nice joke,...I really hope it was one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 29 2009, 10:19 PM) *
I don't think so. I'm against such risky choices. It's offending in a way. I mean, does this guy even have a coach-license?

Ancelotti has one... but, to get it, I'm sure he did not learn that when you lose you bring out your best player or that there are players that shall not be substituted!

For me it's almost anyone but Ancelotti right now.

PS I hope Robinho won't ever come close to Milan.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 29 2009, 03:40 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) nice joke,...I really hope it was one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

yeah i was just joking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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QUOTE (dst @ May 29 2009, 06:35 PM) *
Ancelotti has one... but, to get it, I'm sure he did not learn that when you lose you bring out your best player or that there are players that shall not be substituted!

For me it's almost anyone but Ancelotti right now.

PS I hope Robinho won't ever come close to Milan.

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Anyone cares to tell me if where Carlo's name is on this list? (...or if it is usually missing)

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This is a administrative board list. Ancelotti shouldn't be included anyway?
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Hmm, ok then.
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gallaini announced leo
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