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Aug 29 2008, 12:43 PM
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Man, you're fast,...
This isn't exactly the 1st. round match I wanted to have for us... but, we'll go through, no question.
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Sep 4 2008, 03:33 PM
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Note to any who may be in the Milan area for this game: tickets are half price (according to acmilan.com's italian page).
Best place to get tickets in Milan (if you don't go through mpestero's website): the Banca Intesa at Piazza Cordusio. Fast, easy, and the people are very pleasant.
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Sep 14 2008, 05:26 PM
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I sure would be.
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Sep 14 2008, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 14 2008, 05:05 PM)  We'd probably get hammered at this rate. Play like we did today and we'll even struggle to beat Zurich
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Sep 14 2008, 09:51 PM
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Milan always does better in european competitions than in italian league, so i hope for a win in san siro!!! don't know how good zuricj is, but we are Milan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) looking forward to thursday (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) FORZA MILAN
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Sep 14 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 14 2008, 04:39 PM)  We'll beat them (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it's always like this. just when Carlo is almost fired, the team puts on a great show and everything dies down. remember Lazio, Sampdoria, Napoli, etc. games last season (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Milan 3-0 Zurich. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) At this stage i'm never convinced milan can win any match at all..
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Sep 15 2008, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE (Minami @ Sep 15 2008, 01:21 AM)  Milan always does better in european competitions than in italian league, so i hope for a win in san siro!!! don't know how good zuricj is, but we are Milan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) looking forward to thursday (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) FORZA MILAN I'm telling you all, a convincing win against Zurich and UEFA Cup will become our first objective (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) we'll even use it as an excuse for Serie A loses just the same way we did it with CL games... it is after all the only trophy Milan is yet to win. we will have to win it..! High hopes I had for this Milan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 15 2008, 04:34 AM)  We're the best damn club in the world Really? (IMG: http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mpr.gif) we finished 5th in the league and got eliminated in the first knockout round of the Champions League. personally I would keep that tag for when we 'really' are the best club in the world. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE I'm sure we'll pick up, and come out good in the next matches. How many times have we said something like this over the past 12 months...? aren't these comments familiar? "we'll do better", "we'll bounce back", "there's still time", "next match a different Milan", etc. it's getting as boring as the day-to-day, honestly. I think a loss to Inter and we'll definitely be out of the race for the Scudetto.
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Sep 16 2008, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE Milan Crisis Intensifies As Pirlo Suffers Injury BlowMilan have been dealt another major blow in midfield after Andrea Pirlo went down with a muscular injury during Tuesday morning’s training session.The Rossoneri are already without Gennaro Gattuso and it is highly likely that Pirlo will be ruled out from Milan’s UEFA Cup clash with Zurich on Thursday night. The extent of the player’s injury is not yet known but the club have released a statement confirming he will under go further examinations on Friday morning. "Milan announces that Andrea Pirlo sustained an injury to his right leg this morning and he will be examined further on Friday," read a statement on the club’s official website. Although it is not known how long Pirlo will be out, reports in Italy suggest it will be several weeks. Carlo Ancelotti did not need this latest set-back given all the recent problems at the club. Emerson or Cardacio are likely to come in for the injured star. Milan will be hoping to progress against Zurich. Any slip up could signal the end of Ancelotti’s days in charge. The club cannot afford to lose or they will be eliminated from the competition. Salvatore Landolina- goal.com What does the last line mean? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Sep 16 2008, 03:25 PM
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It means that whoever wrote the article is trying to make it sound worse than it is. The tie with Zurich is over two legs (home and away).
re: Pirlo's injury, initial guesses are about a month out. It's a little odd that they're waiting 3 days for further tests though.
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Sep 16 2008, 04:16 PM
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Well this is just great (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Hopefully we see Cardacio and Flamini in this one.
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Sep 16 2008, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (Soldier @ Sep 16 2008, 07:26 PM)  If Sh**Shenko will be playing in this game, I will not watch it. Amen. Yeah right, because Sheva is clearly the reason we are cr@p (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 16 2008, 07:44 PM
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Well, I'd bench him too, Han.
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Sep 16 2008, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 16 2008, 07:42 PM)  I also want Dida to start this one, so that our first choice hero 'Abbiati' can get a rest for the next Serie A game. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The last thing we want is our keeper to burn out with the derby and other crucial games approaching. Who knows, maybe Carlo will stick with Ab? Why is it turning to being Abbiati's fault now? The only goal that he could have done a bit better on was the second one against Bologna, but it was still mostly down to Kaladze's position, he was more in Abbiati's eyeline instead of trying to close down the player The other goals he let in were really not his fault since they were all taken well and the only way they could have been stopped is if the defendrs had done their job I'me pretty sure Dida wouldn't have done any better. Bottom line is, we don't have a decvent keeper, and right now the best of a very average bunch is playing when he commits his first howler we'll switch to Dida. And when Dida commits his first howler we'll switch to Kalac untill he screws up then the cycle will start all over again. Galliani might go on and on about our team but we don't have a solid foindation ie cr@p keep and terrible defence (we all knew Nesta would be injured most of the time) We were never good enough in the league no matter how many strikers we brought in
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Sep 16 2008, 08:00 PM
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Not his fault, but I'd still like him to be fresh for the match against Lazio. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's be stupid of Carlo to field a full strength team against a club like Zurich when we haven't even took off the ground in the league. A little more than half of the first XI should play, the rest should concentrate on Serie A. If we can't beat a team like Zurich, then it's for the better that we get a boot from the UEFA Cup and concentrate on more important issues at hand. Plain and simple. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Otherwise we'd be looking at a certain 5th place finish (if Carlo stays the whole season), and fighting it out with teams like Roma, Fiorentina and such. The way things are now, a UEFA Cup win plus Serie A title, seems too distant a possibility.
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Sep 16 2008, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 16 2008, 07:44 PM)  Well, I'd bench him too, Han. I'd bench him if we were to play the xmas (IMG: style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) tree (IMG: style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) formation and Carlo gives him the instructions to play like a target man. It's ridiculous to expect Sheva to play that type of role, he couldn't have done that in his best of days let alone now. He was trying to play with his back to goal against Genoa and trying to lay off the Ball to Kaka and Dinho, Sheva can't play that type of role, he can play as a single forward upfront but you have to give him the ball at his feat so he can run onto it that's how we played the xmas tree formation when Sheva was the lone striker. And again it goes back to Carlo not willing to change his system. And if we try to do the same thing while Pato is up there alone upfront he'll struggle just as much as Sheva did if not more because he's shorter. Boriello is the only one we have that can play in this position and do well. Now if we go for the 4-3-1-2, I'd go for either Sheva or Pato and Boriello. If we play the xmas tree while having Sheva or Pato playing alone up there then Carlo has to change his tactics, we can't punt the ball up and have the just laying it off to Kaka and Dinho, it would be useless.
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Sep 17 2008, 01:46 AM
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Just realized I forgot to post the training stuff. So after having the official team picture taken, the team trained today, did warmups, played a practice game, and all that fun stuff (after which naughty student Ronaldinho had to report to Headmaster Galliani's office to explain his late night partying). Pippo, Senderos, and Viudez trained separately (so presumably no Senderos in the starting XI). RINO TRAINED WITH THE GROUP. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (finally a tiny piece of good news).
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Sep 17 2008, 01:41 PM
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What carlo doesn't understand is that our slow defence cause flamini, pirlo, seedorf and dinho to play backwards, penalising the attack.
We only need a dynamic defence as to allow our midfield to move upfront.
Check out my formation:
Abbiatti Senderos Darmian Bonera Antonini Pirlo Flamini Kaka Ronaldinho Pato Borriello
...And guess what, only abbiati is above 30 years old.
Carlo should reconsider the defence, and old players to retire, thank you for what you have done in the past but please give chance to our new talents, like baresi, rijkaard or van basten retired to give you your chance
Forza Milan
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Sep 17 2008, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Fiorano @ Sep 17 2008, 07:11 PM)  What carlo doesn't understand is that our slow defence cause flamini, pirlo, seedorf and dinho to play backwards, penalising the attack.
We only need a dynamic defence as to allow our midfield to move upfront.
Check out my formation:
Abbiatti Senderos Darmian Bonera Antonini Pirlo Flamini Kaka Ronaldinho Pato Borriello
...And guess what, only abbiati is above 30 years old.
Carlo should reconsider the defence, and old players to retire, thank you for what you have done in the past but please give chance to our new talents, like baresi, rijkaard or van basten retired to give you your chance
Forza Milan Hmmm.... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 17 2008, 02:11 PM
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Welcome to Fiorano!
One slight problem with your lineup: Pirlo is definitely out (thigh strain of some sort, to be evaluated on Friday).
CMF, I still don't think goal.com is right in the lineup. (And janku doesn't ever play on the right).
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Sep 17 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 17 2008, 07:28 PM)  seems liek it will be 4-3-1-2 w
----------------dida--------------------- janku-----kaladze---bonera-----antonini
--------ambro----seedorf---------flamini----
------------------kaka---------------
-------------pato-------borrilleo------ Why does everyone call him this? It sounds like some kind of dish. I'd stick with the same formation, except for the fullbacks of course. (Zambrotta/Antonini) and perhaps, just have Seedorf and Flamini swap places.
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Sep 17 2008, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 17 2008, 07:52 PM)  Boriello must play if he is fit. He is awesome. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) He needs to get his samurai hairdo back. Does anyone have a pic of that. It was from the 2006-07 season in a friendly.
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Sep 17 2008, 02:34 PM
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Apologies to CMF - looks like goal.com got this (mostly) right. They're bound to be generally accurate eventually! Herewith are highlights of Carletto's press conference (it's really long and don't have time to do a full translation): * Pirlo, Rino and Pippo won't play * Zambrotta is being given a rest day * Ronaldinho and Shevchenko are training separately and will be available though they won't likely play the full game. * Flamini and Emerson are the players able to play in Pirlo's spot, with Flamini the one most likely to take the spot due to his being in good form. * Everyone's united in this difficult time, etc etc etc. * There are 2 goals for the game: a good victory with good play and the hope that by beating Zurich, the team will go on to the group stage. * There's pressure on the team to do well tomorrow but tomorrow's an opportunity for the team to find the right spirit to resolve its problems * Ronaldinho is very professional at Milanello; the Brazil party thing was a management intervention * Ronaldinho and Shevchenko trained separately after yesterday's tests. This separate training will continue for the next several days, with the priority to improve their condition. They are in condition to play about 45 minutes, however. * Maldini will not play tomorrow. * Dida will play in goal, he's been doing well in training and now needs to find his confidence. * Senderos is not available tomorrow but may be on Sunday * Gattuso may be available for the game on Sunday and is wearing a cast (of sorts? I think this is the right word) to avoid hurting himself or adversaries * Ancelotti had a productive talk with Pato. link to full interview in Italian.
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Sep 17 2008, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 17 2008, 01:34 PM)  * Zambrotta is being given a rest day * Maldini will not play tomorrow. * Senderos is not available tomorrow but may be on Sunday So we'll see Antonini as a right back or Darmian in the pitch. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I prefer this line up,classic Xmas tree for a euro match (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Dida
Antonini--Bonera--Kaladze--Marek
Ambro---Flamini---Seedorf
Kaka-----Dinho
Borriello
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Sep 17 2008, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 17 2008, 06:04 PM)  He needs to get his samurai hairdo back. Does anyone have a pic of that. It was from the 2006-07 season in a friendly. Thanks, but no thanks! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) he's OK right now. plus he better concentrate on football not his hair! QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 17 2008, 06:04 PM)  * Ancelotti had a productive talk with Pato. Just play him a full game you dumb ******* (IMG: style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) QUOTE * Everyone's united in this difficult time, etc etc etc. Cliche, cliche, cliche (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 17 2008, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (vahid @ Sep 17 2008, 09:02 AM)  So we'll see Antonini as a right back or Darmian in the pitch. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) I prefer this line up,classic Xmas tree for a euro match (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Dida
Antonini--Bonera--Kaladze--Marek
Ambro---Flamini---Seedorf
Kaka-----Dinho
Borriello
Dinho won't start according to Carlo, so switch Dinho with Pato, Kaka playing behind them. It looks like a solid lineup, excited to see 4-3-1-2 again.
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Sep 17 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Darunia @ Sep 17 2008, 07:17 PM)  Dinho won't start according to Carlo, so switch Dinho with Pato, Kaka playing behind them. It looks like a solid lineup, excited to see 4-3-1-2 again. +1 Plus that I prefer to see Seedorf in Pirlo's place instead of Emerson. Pato ---- Marco Kaka Ambro --- Seedorf --- Flamini Janku --- Kaladze --- Bonera --- Antonini Dida Dynamic on the flanks, strong in midfield, fearful in attack! only the defense doesn't look reassuring! The lineup and formation Carlo will probably use: Marco Seedorf ---- Kaka Ambro --- Emerson --- Flamini Janku --- Kaladze --- Bonera ---Antonini Dida I know he won't abandon his Christmas tree...
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Sep 17 2008, 05:51 PM
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MILAN-ZURIGO: I CONVOCATI ROSSONERI 17/09/2008 MILANELLO - Carlo Ancelotti convoca 18 giocatori per Milan-Zurigo: Dida, Kalac, Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Ambrosini, Emerson, Flamini, Gattuso, Borriello, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho. Giocatori non convocati (not called up): Maldini, Pasini, Zambrotta. Giocatori indisponibili (unavailable): Senderos, Pirlo, Inzaghi.
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Sep 18 2008, 01:09 PM
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Yup....it's all an effort from Galliani to take us through a rollercoaster of emotions. He wishes us to build character through constant trials of faith.
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Sep 18 2008, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Sep 18 2008, 03:39 PM)  Personally i would rather watch House and Mock the Week (UK fans may know about this) than watch another poor stale performance from us I'm waiting for the line-up to decide if I'm going to watch the Napoli game instead.
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Sep 18 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 18 2008, 03:50 PM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) And you call Sheva a traitor? This is why I love Newcastle...(IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) What is why you love Newcastle?
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Sep 18 2008, 02:00 PM
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Well if you had a Newcastle fan mentality, you would not even contemplate watching another match? You'd grimace and frown and curse and pull your hair out, but you'd still watch!!
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Sep 18 2008, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 18 2008, 04:00 PM)  Well if you had a Newcastle fan mentality, you would not even contemplate watching another match? You'd grimace and frown and curse and pull your hair out, but you'd still watch!! I'm worse than a Newcastle fan. If not live, I'm going to watch the game on replay whether we have won or lost. The thing is, there's a possibility the other game is going to be great so I'd rather be tormented after I have enjoyed a football game...
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Sep 18 2008, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Sep 18 2008, 01:39 PM)  Personally i would rather watch House and Mock the Week (UK fans may know about this) than watch another poor stale performance from us Mock the Week is great. Frankie Boyle is a genius! QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 18 2008, 02:00 PM)  Well if you had a Newcastle fan mentality, you would not even contemplate watching another match? You'd grimace and frown and curse and pull your hair out, but you'd still watch!! That's not a Newcastle fan mentality! These are the same fans that threatened not to go to the Hull game and support the team. And they call themself the greatest fans on earth? I think the correct answer would be they're possibly the worst fans in the league, what fans don't go and support their team? Anyways, don't know when it kicks off, so I don't know if I'll watch it.
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Sep 18 2008, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 18 2008, 07:41 PM)  That's not a Newcastle fan mentality! These are the same fans that threatened not to go to the Hull game and support the team. And they call themself the greatest fans on earth? I think the correct answer would be they're possibly the worst fans in the league, what fans don't go and support their team? Of course they threatened...but SJP was still full that evening. Unlike the San Siro over the past two seasons. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 18 2008, 02:25 PM
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You're splitting ends over a couple of thousands? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) 50,000 out of a possible 52,390 is nearly full to me.
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Sep 18 2008, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 18 2008, 08:00 PM)  Mercy. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Fine! You're forgiven!! 3000 people missing from 52,390 vs 3000 missing from 42,640.... Hang on while I call dst, to do that math. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sep 18 2008, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 18 2008, 02:34 PM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Fine! You're forgiven!! 3000 people missing from 52,390 vs 3000 missing from 42,640.... Hang on while I call dst, to do that math. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) No need to bring Villa into this (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) .. oh, so you wanna go percentages? This season we have had an average of 1839 from capacity, working out at 4.3% seats unsold. Newcastle have had an average of 3411 from capcity, working out at 6.5% seats unsold. Case closed. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Sep 18 2008, 02:42 PM
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Sep 18 2008, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 18 2008, 07:12 PM)  No need to bring Villa into this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) .. oh, so you wanna go percentages? This season we have had an average of 1839 from capacity, working out at 4.3% seats unsold. Newcastle have had an average of 3411 from capcity, working out at 6.5% seats unsold. Case closed. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Ahh...you noticed. I had to make it personal to needle you.(IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Oh well the 6.5% is with us on strike, and you blokes happy about everything. So go figure... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sep 18 2008, 04:37 PM
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Darmian should surely play in this game, it's a good chance for him.
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Sep 18 2008, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:18 PM)  I think it will be that ... Milan will play with two up front and it would be great if the front pairing which you stated would play. I also like the idea of Kaka' behind the two (IMG: style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) But what I miss more is the diamond formation (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I would love to see that tonight It would be great seeing the diamond again. But we don't really have the players for it without Pirlo. I'm happy tonight as long as it's not the xmas tree.
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Sep 18 2008, 06:38 PM
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If anyone on here gets the mediaset channels (Rete 4, Canale 5, Italia 1) Rete 4 will be showing the match live
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